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[quote=Mattyk;923666]Doc is best in small doses. Yeah he would get old really quick.[/quote]

I totally agree. Doc is the cliche king and that gets old fast. I dont have a problem with a 2 man booth of Larry & Sonny.

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I like Huff in the booth. It reminds me how old the franchise is every time he tries to complete a sentence.

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[quote=NC_Skins;923856][B]It's supposed to be a professional broadcast crew that covers a professional football team. It's not a comedy hour, it's not the Lavar and Dukes show, or the Mike Wise show. Their job is to do play by play announcing while providing professional analyst of the game.[/B] The whole crew needs to be replaced in my opinion.


Somebody who has excellent knowledge of the game and would be a great analyst is Matt Bowen. Not sure how he does on the air, but his knowledge and insight would be awesome.[/quote]

Exactly. I don't know why being on the radio should excuse them from doing a top notch job.

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[quote=Mattyk;923874]Exactly. I don't know why being on the radio should excuse them from doing a top notch job.[/quote]

Most people feel that radio is a 3rd class entertainment citizen. The variance between Radio's quality and the other platforms(tv and online) is subjective but generally considered to be poorer. This leads to a varying degree of what people will stomach out of local radio broadcasters.

I personally like them all for what they're worth. If i want nostalgia, and full on coolaid, i listen to the radio. If i want information, i go to the internet. If i want to get drunk, i watch television.

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Quite candidly there are few things I detest more about being a Redskins fan than having to listen to Sam Huff. And I'm generally not one to get all carried away with who the announcers are. But Huff is so beyond horrible it's repulsive. For over a decade Frank and Sonny and later Larry and Sonny have been covering for him far more than people realize. That it's radio is no excuse, there were many times when I (and am sure many others) had no other means but the radio broadcast to catch a game.

I totally respect what Sam Huff has meant for not only the Redskins but the NFL as a whole. He changed the game, no question about it. And it's naive to think that his aggressive play didn't at least have some impact on his "inabilities' today. But enought is enough. He 100% must go.

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[quote=los panda;923841]shocking, i really thought huff would go the other way
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/sam-huff-says-he-wants-to-keep-calling-redskins-games/]Sam Huff says he wants to keep calling Redskins games | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Yeah, I don't know how he can't know that his focus and attention to detail have gotten way below par. Nor how the Skins can let him stay in the booth at all.

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[quote=SmootSmack;923877]Quite candidly there are few things I detest more about being a Redskins fan than having to listen to Sam Huff. And I'm generally not one to get all carried away with who the announcers are. But Huff is so beyond horrible it's repulsive. For over a decade Frank and Sonny and later Larry and Sonny have been covering for him far more than people realize. That it's radio is no excuse, there were many times when I (and am sure many others) had no other means but the radio broadcast to catch a game.

I totally respect what Sam Huff has meant for not only the Redskins but the NFL as a whole. He changed the game, no question about it. And it's naive to think that his aggressive play didn't at least have some impact on his "inabilities' today. But enought is enough. He 100% must go.[/quote]

I don't think hes hurting anything, and I listen to at least half the games on the radio. Maybe his horrible game calling has paralleled the atrocities he's seen on the field the last 15 years(-Gibbs 2.0). Maybe RGIII and these boys can breath a little life back into the ol fart!! Lets have three cheers for Sam!!! lol

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;923891]I don't think hes hurting anything, and I listen to at least half the games on the radio. Maybe his horrible game calling has paralleled the atrocities he's seen on the field the last 15 years(-Gibbs 2.0). Maybe RGIII and these boys can breath a little life back into the ol fart!! Lets have three cheers for Sam!!! lol[/quote]

Yeah sorry no sympathy from me or excuses for him. He's absolutely awful in the broadcast booth.

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[quote=SmootSmack;923897]Yeah sorry no sympathy from me or excuses for him. He's absolutely awful in the broadcast booth.[/quote]

They'll eventually have to replace him, if he becomes senile enough that he says something that garners enough attention. I think that's the best shot at this point.

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[quote=SmootSmack;923877]Quite candidly there are few things I detest more about being a Redskins fan than having to listen to Sam Huff. And I'm generally not one to get all carried away with who the announcers are. But Huff is so beyond horrible it's repulsive. For over a decade Frank and Sonny and later Larry and Sonny have been covering for him far more than people realize. That it's radio is no excuse, there were many times when I (and am sure many others) had no other means but the radio broadcast to catch a game.

I totally respect what Sam Huff has meant for not only the Redskins but the NFL as a whole. He changed the game, no question about it. And it's naive to think that his aggressive play didn't at least have some impact on his "inabilities' today. But enought is enough. He 100% must go.[/quote]

somthing must be done. i was driving home yesterday trying to listen to some of the game but it's basically unlistenable for me at this point. i don't want to hear my granddad with dementia saying random one liners and everyone else just ignoring him while i'm trying to figure out what is going on. it really sounds like they all three hate each other, there is no flow to the game at all. and to top that off snyder needs to either get some legit broadacsting equipment or more antenna power so you can actually pick up a solid signal. i mean is that really too much to ask? not only do i have to hear sam ramble on about linebacker this linebacker that, i get inturupted by songs breaking in on the signal and that fuzzy am sounding crap. meanwhile you flip the station to 106.7 and charlie and dave have a top notch broadcast of the nats game. if the nats can do it right why the hell can't the skins? it's time for the redskins to revamp the radio broadcast, it's been over due for years now. and don't even get me started on how you can't get a signal in the damn parking lot at fedex. :rant: maybe it's time to rasie some money and rent some trucks. :)

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Snyder's stations are low-power candles while JFK is a flame-thrower signal-wise. It has less to do with equipment and more to do with FCC license. If everyone could set their station up with a mammoth signal they all would but the FCC doesn't let them.

Snyder tried to compensate by buying multiple stations to blanket the region but it is pretty spotty. As long as he wants to own the whole broadcast operation it is going to be like that unless he can pull off swapping his candles for the likes of a JFK. Which costs serious coin. And there aren't a lot of big-signal stations to begin with. Certainly not many with for-sale signs out front.

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[quote=SmootSmack;923470][URL="http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/07/huff-to-cut-back-on-redskins-broadcast-schedule.html"]Huff to cut back on Redskins broadcast schedule - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/URL]

Still 12 games too many in my opinion but it's a start[/quote]


Unless for health reasons the team should look to cut back on Aikmen in the booth before they go after Huff. I'm still baffled as to why FOX could not locate some old Redskins to sit in the booth besides Aikmen on game day.

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I don't get the Aikman hate. To me he seems relatively unbiased and calls a pretty good game. I'm not much of a Joe Buck fan, but Aikman is one of the better Fox announcers in my mind.

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Agree with everything everyone has said about Huff. The bottom line is that he is no longer qualified to be doing radio broadcasts. No reason to get angry with him, but everybody knows it, and it is a fact. Frankly, I think the Redskins Radio brass are doing more of a disservice to Huff's legacy by letting him continue to broadcast than they would by politely asking him to step down.

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We were late to the game yesterday so I caught the first part of it on 980. Sam is just brutal and even my gf was like.."I can't believe that Sam Huff is still doing the games, he sounds so horrible!" I did notice that Doc was part of the broadcast, I guess he was the on the field reporter. They should just move him up and get rid of Huff asap.

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[quote=Daseal;935538]I don't get the Aikman hate. To me he seems relatively unbiased and calls a pretty good game. I'm not much of a Joe Buck fan, but Aikman is one of the better Fox announcers in my mind.[/quote]

Loyalty brother. It's all about loyalty. Aikmen is very smart, good commentator, however I wish he was doing that for Dallas not the Skins. I personally don't want some jock strap from Seattle in my booth commontating about our Skins. I'd prefer it be an old Redskin.

To me Aikmen is a Cowboy. Why do I want a Cowboy in the booth during a Redskins game? Has nothing to do with who's the best commentator, it has everything to do with team loyalty and Aikmen was the evil, rival opponant. I don't want to hear him.

Was listening to the Indy game over the radio with a Philly fan and he was loling the entire trip up. He noted Doc had some horrible one liners, which I've mentioned here before.

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To mildly paraphrase:

Larry Michael: How about Dale Earnhardt Jr. calling that TD just now?! Bet that's a first for a NASCAR Driver

Sam Huff: And my first time shaking hands with one of those from Indianapolis, or wherever they're from. Where do NASCAR drivers come from?

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[quote=SBXVII;935536]Unless for health reasons the team should look to cut back on Aikmen in the booth before they go after Huff. I'm still baffled as to why FOX could not locate some old Redskins to sit in the booth besides Aikmen on game day.[/quote]

The skins have no control over who announces our games that up to FOX. I actually think Aikmen is a good announcer and when they have him with the great Tom Brennaman they make a great team.

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[quote=SBXVII;935546]Loyalty brother. It's all about loyalty. Aikmen is very smart, good commentator, however I wish he was doing that for Dallas not the Skins. I personally don't want some jock strap from Seattle in my booth commontating about our Skins. I'd prefer it be an old Redskin.

To me Aikmen is a Cowboy. Why do I want a Cowboy in the booth during a Redskins game? Has nothing to do with who's the best commentator, it has everything to do with team loyalty and Aikmen was the evil, rival opponant. I don't want to hear him.[/quote]

So you prefer a homer in the booth basically.

As long as the guy in the booth does his job well, which Aikman does, I could care less who he used to played for.

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I'm with the Aikman supporters crowd. Him being a game announcer has nothing to do with his playing days. He's actually my favorite out of all the announcers on Fox, he's always calm, level-headed, unbiased, and he brings great insight into the game too. Plus when he's talking it means I don't have to listen to Joe Buck.

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[quote=firstdown;935551]The skins have no control over who announces our games that up to FOX. I actually think Aikmen is a good announcer and when they have him with the great Tom Brennaman they make a great team.[/quote]

I know the Skins have no control, but FOX themselves should take these things into consideration.

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[quote=Mattyk;935557]So you prefer a homer in the booth basically.

As long as the guy in the booth does his job well, which Aikman does, I could care less who he used to played for.[/quote]

and yes I'd prefer a homer in the booth. Personally I'd bet the homer would be able to walk in and talk to the players more often and know whats going on with each player and his position better then Aikmen would. Can't speak for Huff though. I'm not saying Huff should not go, I'm saying Aikmen should go announce Dallas games before they get rid of Huff. But I will say I have not liked any of the young guys they have used in the past in place of or with Huff and his team.

To me that is.

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[quote=SBXVII;935565]I know the Skins have no control, but FOX themselves should take these things into consideration.[/quote]

Honest Question: Are you actually serious about this, or just trolling?

And who are your favorite announcers who have called Redskins games

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I prefer non-homers honestly. I cringe when I hear rampant homerism in the booth. Someone like Sonny is OK since he doesn't just BS how everything is great. Sam is terrible for that is noted above. Doc I think is not so great...to homerish for me.

But Sam...well he has to go. It's bordering on cruel to both him and fans to keep him on board. I know Sonny is tight with Snyder so maybe that affects it all.

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[quote=Daseal;935538]I don't get the Aikman hate. To me he seems relatively unbiased and calls a pretty good game. I'm not much of a Joe Buck fan, but Aikman is one of the better Fox announcers in my mind.[/quote]

I agree! Aikman is one of the best ones IMO.

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[quote=SBXVII;935565]I know the Skins have no control, but FOX themselves should take these things into consideration.[/quote]

I'm guess your dislike is more against the player Aikmen then the announcer Aikmen. I felt the same way at first then I realized he is fair when annoucing our games.

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[quote=SBXVII;935567]and yes I'd prefer a homer in the booth. Personally I'd bet the homer would be able to walk in and talk to the players more often and know whats going on with each player and his position better then Aikmen would. Can't speak for Huff though. I'm not saying Huff should not go, I'm saying Aikmen should go announce Dallas games before they get rid of Huff. But I will say I have not liked any of the young guys they have used in the past in place of or with Huff and his team.

To me that is.[/quote]

The national guys get like 1 day to meet with the teams and talk to players. Remember it is ONE broadcast of TWO teams. Should Fox produce a separate broadcasts for each team's market? Which one do they provide to the nation? Not gonna happen. The point of the Fox/CBS/NBS/ESPN broadcast teams are to be neutral teams who can present the game for the entire country and speak neutrally abou the game and teams. It's the whole point.

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I'll give you another, I'm stomaching Randel El. To me he was a Steeler's player who came to us for a few short years. Then went back to being a Steeler. Why isn't he sideline reporting for the Steeler's? Honestly I can deal with him but for what ever reason I don't like how he articulates some of his words and he sounds like he's mumbling sometimes. What happened to some of the female sideline reporters from last yr?

Who the heck is the sideline reporter who played for the Ravens? Sometimes he will be on the sideline and not say a word unless the booth asks him a question (I love him on those days), then there is the games he seems he just can't shut up. I do like how he points out specific things with the OL or DL which ususally none of the announcers will talk about.

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[quote=FRPLG;935569]I prefer non-homers honestly. I cringe when I hear rampant homerism in the booth. Someone like Sonny is OK since he doesn't just BS how everything is great. Sam is terrible for that is noted above. Doc I think is not so great...to homerish for me.

But Sam...well he has to go. It's bordering on cruel to both him and fans to keep him on board. I know Sonny is tight with Snyder so maybe that affects it all.[/quote]

I can tell you for a fact, first-hand that a) Sonny is not fighting to keep Sam in the booth and b) Snyder would not be the guy to make that argument to anyway

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[quote=firstdown;935572]I'm guess your dislike is more against the player Aikmen then the announcer Aikmen. I felt the same way at first then I realized he is fair when annoucing our games.[/quote]

I agree. Aikman is pretty good. Moose is terrible. Baldinger has his moments. Billick makes me want to kill him. All these color guys come from teams. In the booth you have to forget it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;935568]Honest Question: Are you actually serious about this, or just trolling?

And who are your favorite announcers who have called Redskins games[/quote]

WOW, now I'm a troll? The several years I've been here talking football with you guys and because I say something about the announcers and you guys don't like.... I'm a troll.

I can't wait to see the next person who says something that does not go with the social norm here just to see if they get called a troll.

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[quote=FRPLG;935569]I prefer non-homers honestly. I cringe when I hear rampant homerism in the booth. Someone like Sonny is OK since he doesn't just BS how everything is great. Sam is terrible for that is noted above. Doc I think is not so great...to homerish for me.

But Sam...well he has to go. It's bordering on cruel to both him and fans to keep him on board. I know Sonny is tight with Snyder so maybe that affects it all.[/quote]

When the two were young (Sam and Sonny) I liked them cause yes Sam was the homer and Sonny gave it to you straight. They balanced out.

Now how do you like the guy Larry Michael on Redskins Nation? His homerism drives me nuts.

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[quote=SBXVII;935578]WOW, now I'm a troll? The several years I've been here talking football with you guys and because I say something about the announcers and you guys don't like.... I'm a troll.

I can't wait to see the next person who says something that does not go with the social norm here just to see if they get called a troll.[/quote]

Trolling about this particular topic. Like are you just trying to mess with us...because honestly, you must realize your argument is filled with holes

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[quote=SBXVII;935579]When the two were young (Sam and Sonny) I liked them cause yes Sam was the homer and Sonny gave it to you straight. They balanced out.

Now how do you like the guy Larry Michael on Redskins Nation? His homerism drives me nuts.[/quote]

I refuse to watch that dreck of a show.

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[quote=SBXVII;935578]WOW, now I'm a troll? The several years I've been here talking football with you guys and because I say something about the announcers and you guys don't like.... I'm a troll.

I can't wait to see the next person who says something that does not go with the social norm here just to see if they get called a troll.[/quote]

Your views as you have presented them are...extreme.

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[quote=SBXVII;935565]I know the Skins have no control, but FOX themselves should take these things into consideration.[/quote]

I can't imagine the logistical nightmare of trying to match up national broadcast teams so god forbid nobody is doing a game of a former rival.

Let's take a quick look at this. So basically Aikman shouldn't do any NFC East games. Daryl Johnston no NFC East either. How about Brian Billick? No NFC North games, and no AFC North games. Cris Collinsworth no AFC North for him.

Can you see how ridiculous this would be?

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larry michael is like a slightly more advanced forrest gump, w the redskins taking the place of his "jenny".

i'd rather see buck martinez in larry michael's role

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[quote=firstdown;935572]I'm guess your dislike is more against the player Aikmen then the announcer Aikmen. I felt the same way at first then I realized he is fair when annoucing our games.[/quote]

Yes, and as I stated before it's not that I think he can't announce or that I think he doesn't have a clue (because I think he's smart and announces well) it has everything to do with loyalty to me. Why on earth should we have a Dallas Cowboy announcing Redskins games? There's 32 teams, obviously they are playing each other 16 vs. 16, and some are on bye weeks. How hard is it for FOX to get 1 announcer from each to announce their own games?

I'd even tolerate it more if Aikmen was in the booth with a local announcer or ex player for the Skins. Imagine the talk that they would have if they put Arrington in the booth with him. lol.

Somewhere the media has gone afoul with thier idea that they should just put together announcing teams and have them rated and the biggest game gets the biggest rated announcers. I'd prefer local media announcers and perhaps an ex player to give insight to some of the dynamics as well as perhaps some inside info they get from being out at Redskins Park vs. an announcer who used to play for our RIVAL team.

They should have just gotten an ex Sandiego Charger to announce our games. Atleast then I would not have any ill will toward them. I don't want to see anyone from our division announcing our games but Dallas? An ex Dallas player?

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[quote=SBXVII;935590]How hard is it for FOX to get 1 announcer from each to announce their own games?[/quote]idk, make a spreadsheet and find out. sounds pretty hard to me...