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CultBrennan59 07-20-2012 12:23 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;925553]He came in thru an emergency exit.
He was carrying a shot gun and a rifle+.
Not somehting you would waltz in thru the front entrance with.
[I][B]Did any of you read the articles?[/B][/I][/quote]

I do/did, the thing is you don't know what is official reports and whats here-say. Like earlier this morning I heard from one news station that 15 could be dead--its 12. We're still getting out the facts, also keep in mind that some of us are limited to just the internet at work, so we can't see what they're saying on TV.

As far as what could a ticket person do to someone with guns, well obviously your right, not much, but there usually a cop in movie theaters, and who knows, maybe police could have gotten there sooner.

Also who brings a 3 month old baby into a theater, yet alone a LOUD movie, at midnight?!? Thats one of those, the baby shouldn't be there if there wasn't a shooting!

But don't worry this guy will be dead, Colorado has the death penalty in their state, no question here of if he's guilty.

And firstdown, are you being serious? Where do you live if you don't know of a batman movie coming out...

RedskinRat 07-20-2012 12:28 PM

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[quote=Lotus;925571]I didn't mean it to be funny. That's why I used the word "ironic" not long after I used the word "tragic."[/quote]

And you stated " [I]Where was Batman to save these people?[/I]" because you honestly believe that there's a superhero named Batman?

You're an utter wank stain.

SmootSmack 07-20-2012 12:37 PM

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Drop it

mredskins 07-20-2012 12:59 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;925558]pfft, who's got time for that? Read a headline and jump to conclusions![/quote]

I read the article but how do you get thur a exit door with no handle on the outside? If he truly came thur the emergency exit someone opened it for him. If you anyone read my post I said when the details come out. Shoot a few hours ago it was 14 dead and 50 injured those numbers have even changed.

Do you think people at this point may be speculating how he did it?

JoeRedskin 07-20-2012 01:00 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;925608]Drop it[/quote]

Thank you.

NC_Skins 07-20-2012 01:03 PM

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[IMG]http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/07/20/suspectcoloshooting1_244x183.jpg[/IMG]

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476449/james-holmes-24-identified-as-suspect-in-deadly-mass-shooting-at-aurora-colorado-movie-theater/]James Holmes, 24, identified as suspect in deadly mass shooting at Aurora, Colorado, movie theater - CBS News[/url]


[quote]According to the University of Colorado School of Medicine in Denver, Holmes was in the process of dropping out of medical school. School spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery said in a statement that Holmes enrolled at the school in June 2011. She didn't say why he was withdrawing.

The University of California, Riverside, confirmed to CBS News that Holmes graduated in 2010 with a degree in neuroscience.[/quote]


Not everyday you see a med student snap and go on a killing rampage. No previous criminal record. Nada. Very strange and bizarre to say the least.

mredskins 07-20-2012 01:07 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;925602][B]I do/did, the thing is you don't know what is official reports and whats here-say. Like earlier this morning I heard from one news station that 15 could be dead--its 12. We're still getting out the facts, also keep in mind that some of us are limited to just the internet at work, so we can't see what they're saying on TV. [/B]

As far as what could a ticket person do to someone with guns, well obviously your right, not much, but there usually a cop in movie theaters, and who knows, maybe police could have gotten there sooner.

Also who brings a 3 month old baby into a theater, yet alone a LOUD movie, at midnight?!? Thats one of those, the baby shouldn't be there if there wasn't a shooting!

But don't worry this guy will be dead, Colorado has the death penalty in their state, no question here of if he's guilty.

And firstdown, are you being serious? Where do you live if you don't know of a batman movie coming out...[/quote]

Thank you that was my point; we really don't know right now Iwas just speculating.

Every movie house fire door i have seen in my life from the outside:

[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFRXqNYu_I_ZBx28DsYpj98QhanJ-OhYJuwFLaKB5t7WOrcwp6[/IMG]
And to speak to Mooby's trick; yes we did that too but one guy had to buy a ticket come in the theater and open it for us. Plus now a days if you open one it trips a alarm.

mredskins 07-20-2012 01:10 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;925585][URL="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-shooting-denverbre86j0am-20120720,0,6584688.story"]Movie theater shooting suspect's apartment booby-trapped - chicagotribune.com[/URL][/quote]

So his apartment was covered in nude breast?? WOW!

RedskinRat 07-20-2012 01:13 PM

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Rapoza photo of bullet grazed t-shirt[IMG]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/20/article-2176521-1424B527000005DC-385_634x841.jpg[/IMG]

Lucky, lucky dude.

NC_Skins 07-20-2012 01:16 PM

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[quote=RedskinRat;925619]Rapoza photo of bullet grazed t-shirt

Lucky, lucky dude.[/quote]

I posted a link to that guy's pics. He's got one of the actual bullet wound as well. He posted it on Reddit.


He's a very lucky guy.

[url]http://imgur.com/a/vtMhj[/url]

mlmpetert 07-20-2012 01:23 PM

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[quote=mredskins;925613]I read the article but how do you get thur a exit door with no handle on the outside? If he truly came thur the emergency exit someone opened it for him. If you anyone read my post I said when the details come out. Shoot a few hours ago it was 14 dead and 50 injured those numbers have even changed.

[B]Do you think people at this point may be speculating how he did it?[/B]

[/quote]


Ive heard speculation that he MAY have been employed through or had a connection with the movie theater in some way. So maybe he could have gotten the door open from the outside or had it stuck open after being inside.

His mom thought it was him when she was contacted by ABC, when just a name was known. Maybe because she knows her son is absolutely nuts or maybe because of some things he's recently gone through. I suspect you cant be too insane like and not get kicked out of the med school right away. But who knows.

mredskins 07-20-2012 01:26 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;925615][IMG]http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/07/20/suspectcoloshooting1_244x183.jpg[/IMG]

[URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476449/james-holmes-24-identified-as-suspect-in-deadly-mass-shooting-at-aurora-colorado-movie-theater/"]James Holmes, 24, identified as suspect in deadly mass shooting at Aurora, Colorado, movie theater - CBS News[/URL]





Not everyday you see a med student snap and go on a killing rampage. No previous criminal record. Nada. Very strange and bizarre to say the least.[/quote]

Is it me or does he kind of look like Los Panda?

He deleted his licenses pictures that kind of remind me of the above.

Has not been on since 7/18

One of his last post was this in the movie thread:

[B][I]still can't wait for thursday night[/I][/B]

And I thought he was moving to CO from CA.

I don't mean to joke it just eerily looks like him from what I remember of the license pic he once showed us.

NC_Skins 07-20-2012 01:46 PM

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[quote=mredskins;925623]And I thought he was moving to CO from CA.

I don't mean to joke it just eerily looks like him from what I remember of the license pic he once showed us.[/quote]


Obviously the other guy had lived in Colorado for a while if he was attending Med school and had enrolled back in June 2011.


[quote]The University of California, Riverside, confirmed to CBS News that Holmes graduated in 2010 with a degree in neuroscience.[/quote]

The killer most likely left CA shortly after he was accepted to med school is my guess.


A very low probability of this being Los Panda.

mooby 07-20-2012 01:49 PM

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[quote=mredskins;925616]Thank you that was my point; we really don't know right now Iwas just speculating.

Every movie house fire door i have seen in my life from the outside:

[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFRXqNYu_I_ZBx28DsYpj98QhanJ-OhYJuwFLaKB5t7WOrcwp6[/IMG]
And to speak to Mooby's trick; yes we did that too but one guy had to buy a ticket come in the theater and open it for us. Plus now a days if you open one it trips a alarm.[/quote]

My local AMC theater let people walk out through the emergency exit doors all the time. You're right you can't open them from the outside but seeing as how they are used very frequently at my local theater it was very easy to wait for someone to walk out and then sneak in. If it's similar at that Colorado theater all he had to do was wait for someone to walk out and he has his entrance. One thing's for sure though, they won't be letting anyone leave through those doors again, either at my theater or the one in Colorado.

Alvin Walton 07-20-2012 01:49 PM

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[url=http://abcnews.go.com/US/mass-shooting-colorado-movie-theater-14-people-dead/story?id=16817842#.UAk50v2iO6U]Aurora, Colo. Batman Shooter James Holmes Was PhD Student - ABC News[/url]


[I]Federal law enforcement sources tell ABC News that [COLOR="Red"]Holmes bought a ticket to the movie, slipped out of the theater once it began and propped open the emergency exit [/COLOR]before gathering his weapons and gear and coming back into the theater. Once inside, he opened fire.[/I]

SmootSmack 07-20-2012 01:51 PM

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[quote=mredskins;925623]Is it me or does he kind of look like Los Panda?

He deleted his licenses pictures that kind of remind me of the above.

Has not been on since 7/18

One of his last post was this in the movie thread:

[B][I]still can't wait for thursday night[/I][/B]

And I thought he was moving to CO from CA.

I don't mean to joke it just eerily looks like him from what I remember of the license pic he once showed us.[/quote]

What the hell are you trying to say?

mooby 07-20-2012 01:55 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;925630]What the hell are you trying to say?[/quote]

That's the second regrettable post I've seen regarding this incident since I got on this morning. mredskins, this is another instance where you're probably better off keeping those thoughts to yourself.

MTK 07-20-2012 02:02 PM

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[quote=mredskins;925617]So his apartment was covered in nude breast?? WOW![/quote]

are you channeling your inner FD today?

SmootSmack 07-20-2012 02:05 PM

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A lot of stupid posts today from a few people you don't normally expect them from. Like mooby said, there's no obligation to come rushing here to post every thought in your head

Alvin Walton 07-20-2012 02:07 PM

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LOL...a Warpath forum member has been accused of being a mass murderer.

[img]http://lppcarver.com/loon.jpg[/img]

mredskins 07-20-2012 02:34 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;925626]Obviously the other guy had lived in Colorado for a while if he was attending Med school and had enrolled back in June 2011.




The killer most likely left CA shortly after he was accepted to med school is my guess.


[B]A very low probability of this being Los Panda[/B].[/quote]

I know, just if he re post those driver license pics you will see where I am coming from.

RedskinRat 07-20-2012 02:36 PM

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The police radio calls are rough to listen to.

mredskins 07-20-2012 02:37 PM

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My apologies but if his pic was up from before you agree they look similar (which was really what I was driving at not so much he did it).

mredskins 07-20-2012 02:40 PM

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[quote=mooby;925631]That's the second regrettable post I've seen regarding this incident since I got on this morning. mredskins, this is another instance where you're probably better off keeping those thoughts to yourself.[/quote]

and the other incident was?

I think we are allowed to speculate how he did it with out hurting anyones feelings. As far as Los Panda that was wrong and I apologize.

mredskins 07-20-2012 02:40 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;925632]are you channeling your inner FD today?[/quote]

No AW. Ha!

mooby 07-20-2012 02:48 PM

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[quote=mredskins;925652]and the other incident was?

[B]I think we are allowed to speculate how he did it with out hurting anyones feelings[/B]. As far as Los Panda that was wrong and I apologize.[/quote]

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/fantasy-football/23769-naming-your-fantasy-football-team-2.html#post925570[/URL]

I don't think the bolded point is something anyone has a major problem with. But openly speculating about another board member's whereabouts (and being serious about it) after the fact? Come on man. That's not cool.

mredskins 07-20-2012 02:53 PM

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[quote=mooby;925655][URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/fantasy-football/23769-naming-your-fantasy-football-team-2.html#post925570[/URL]

I don't think the bolded point is something anyone has a major problem with. But openly speculating about another board member's whereabouts (and being serious about it) after the fact? Come on man. That's not cool.[/quote]

Not sure about your link and what it has to do with this.

But again I apologize, I be happy to drive down to the dealership and giveyou my first born (good kid) if that smooths it over for you.

Lotus 07-20-2012 02:55 PM

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/paris-batman-premiere-cancelled-u-shooting-143252186.html]Paris Batman premiere cancelled after U.S. shooting - Yahoo! News[/url]

mooby 07-20-2012 03:00 PM

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[quote=mredskins;925658]Not sure about your link and what it has to do with this.

But again I apologize, I be happy to drive down to the dealership and giveyou my first born (good kid) if that smooths it over for you.[/quote]

You asked what the other incident was, I was showing it to you. Coming up with related fantasy football team names hours after a massive shooting at a movie theater? :doh: Poor tact.

Just to be clear, it's not a huge deal, it's just lacking in tact. You know I don't have a problem with you. Also, I will accept your apology if you send payment to my Paypal. Does 500 sound good to you? :D

mredskins 07-20-2012 03:07 PM

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[quote=mooby;925664][B]You asked what the other incident was, I was showing it to you. Coming up with related fantasy football team names hours after a massive shooting at a movie theater? :doh: Poor tact. [/B]

Just to be clear, it's not a huge deal, it's just lacking in tact. You know I don't have a problem with you. Also, I will accept your apology if you send payment to my Paypal. Does 500 sound good to you? :D[/quote]

I think you are confusing me with Redskin Jim or you are saying there were incidents not necessarily mine.

Make it $600 I am still beating myself up about this.

mlmpetert 07-20-2012 03:31 PM

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[QUOTE]Holmes, who was dressed in black and wearing a protective vest, was arrested by his car outside the movie theater minutes after the attack. Holmes did not resist cops and reportedly told them his apartment — just four miles from the theater and within view of Children's Hospital, where some of his victims were taken — was rigged to kill.[/QUOTE]

Read more: [URL="http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/20/grad-school-dropout-horrific-attack-came-out-nowhere/#ixzz21BzsgCS1"]Grad school dropout's horrific attack came out of nowhere | Fox News[/URL]

What i dont get is why he wore a bullet proff vest, didnt resist arrest, and told police of his apartment being rigged with explosives. I feel like most mass shooters try and "go out" with their horrible act. And why tell the cops of his apt. being rigged? It just seems like things could have been much worse and that maybe he stopped, at least to some degree.

saden1 07-20-2012 04:20 PM

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Tragic and senseless. RIP to all those who died.

This whole thing brings into focus why the average Joe is allowed to own an Assault Weapons like an AR-15.

RedskinRat 07-20-2012 04:32 PM

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I hope that one day we can prosecute people like this without the possibility that a defense attorney claims insanity. The amount of planning should make that claim null.

htownskinfan 07-20-2012 05:28 PM

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My daughter went to a midnight screening last nite,it just sucks to have to worry that at any moment some pyscho can take you out.Are you allowed to pack heat in Co? I have a gun but i dont carry it around,incidents like this are gonna force me to get my liscence to do it

Alvin Walton 07-20-2012 05:29 PM

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[quote=saden1;925686]Tragic and senseless. RIP to all those who died.

This whole thing brings into focus why the average Joe is allowed to own an Assault Weapons like an AR-15.[/quote]

Oh please......assault rifle....LOL.
I can assault you with a spoon and call it an Assault Spoon.
Guns don't assault people. People assault people.
I'm assuming the AR was semi auto so you may as well want to to go after deer rifles too. And I guess you're not worried about the pistol and the shotgun he shot everyone with.
Trying to ban guns isnt going to keep deranged people from attacking you.
:doh:

saden1 07-20-2012 05:50 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;925697]Oh please......assault rifle....LOL.
I can assault you with a spoon and call it an Assault Spoon.
Guns don't assault people. People assault people.
I'm assuming the AR was semi auto so you may as well want to to go after deer rifles too. And I guess you're not worried about the pistol and the shotgun he shot everyone with.
Trying to ban guns isnt going to keep deranged people from attacking you.
:doh:[/quote]

Take it easy man, we don't want you to exert your brain too much. Still, you can do better than poking fun at the words describe a class of weapons.

It may not make sense to ban deer rifles but it sure as shit makes sense to ban AR-15s. Those type of weapons serve one purpose and one purpose only, assault people and in mass at a rapid and constant pace. For your run of the mill home invasions I am sure a hand gun is more than sufficient. You can have those.


...I guess we'll have to wait until foreign terrorists start shooting people at the malls before we ban these weapons.

RedskinRat 07-20-2012 06:03 PM

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[quote=saden1;925698]Take it easy man, we don't want you to exert your brain too much. Still, you can do better than poking fun at the words describe a class of weapons.

It may not make sense to ban deer rifles but it sure as shit makes sense to ban AR-15s. Those type of weapons serve one purpose and one purpose only, assault people and in mass at a rapid and constant pace. For your run of the mill home invasions I am sure a hand gun is more than sufficient. You can have those.


...I guess we'll have to wait until foreign terrorists start shooting people at the malls before we ban these weapons.[/quote]

Criminals always seem to have a problem getting their hands on these weapons once the Govt. bans them. /sarc

Enforce the laws on the books before banning weapons.

mooby 07-20-2012 06:09 PM

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[quote=mredskins;925668]I think you are confusing me with Redskin Jim or you are saying [B]there were incidents not necessarily mine. [/B]

Make it $600 I am still beating myself up about this.[/quote]

This. I wasn't saying the other incident was you too.

saden1 07-20-2012 06:18 PM

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[quote=RedskinRat;925699]Criminals always seem to have a problem getting their hands on these weapons once the Govt. bans them. /sarc

Enforce the laws on the books before banning weapons.[/quote]


Clearly the law in this instance wasn't adequate because someone like this guy was able to walk into a gun shop and buy his fancy without a hitch. Plus, not everyone is a criminal, some people are overwhelmed by life and are just plain crazy...like this guy.


No, the right course of action is to ban assault weapons because they server no purpose and 2nd amendment rights is insufferably insufficient to justify its consumption. We should strive to eliminate "after the fact" criminals from having access.

MTK 07-20-2012 06:23 PM

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I can't imagine why banning assault rifles would be a bad thing. Yes the laws on the books need to be enforced, but I think the laws can also be significantly tightened up as well. I hate that saying how guns don't kill people. Ok it's more like guns in the hands of people kill people, but still that argument is weak and glosses over the issue.


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