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After thinking about this development for a while, I think there are a few things that the Skins could do. A couple of them may not be very practical, but hey, desperate times call for desperate measures........

A. Keep him. Gibbs might not want to let him go for nothing, and since we don't have the ability to do a whole lot in Free Agency, he figures an unhappy Coles is better than a shitty replacement. He would revisit the situation next offseason when it would be more practical (cap-wise) to give Coles his outright release.

B. Cut him. What right now seems like the most likely option, Gibbs decides that it's not worth having Coles if he doesn't want to play. The repayment of a large portion of the signing bonus would make the cap hit negligible, although we are already snug against the cap as it is. Gibbs will likely fill the void with either Derrick Mason or a draft pick, with Taylor Jacobs filling the #2 spot.

C. Somehow work out a trade. Allow Coles to seek a trade. Let him see what kind of offers he would receive from other teams. If he gets a decent offer from a team he likes, he may be willing to repay part of his bonus in addition to giving the Skins compensation from his new team. This is not likely, but possible.

D. Fuck Coles. His toe injury has debilitated his play the past two years, and he refuses to get surgery. So keep him on the roster. When training camp comes around next season, have the trainers deem him "physically unable to perform," citing the toe injury as the reason. Put him on injury reserve, and recoup the cap space that he would have occupied. Force him to watch from the booth all season. A ruthless move, yes, but it saves valuable cap space that we otherwise would not be able to get. This does not sound like a Gibbs-type move, but in my opinion, if Coles doesn't want to be a Redskin, we shouldn't have to treat him like one.

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As long as LC doesn't go to Dallas I'm cool seeing him play anywhere else.

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I'd be fine with him going to Dallas. Have Sean Taylor lay a nice hit on him similar to the CAP hit he will put on us.

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Dallas and Philly are both looking for WR's, I'd hate to see him in either place.

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I bet the Giants look for a receiver too!

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Our secondary will own them all. I REALLY REALLY wish something could get worked out that would at LEAST keep Smoot on the team.

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Maybe we should get cocky about our seconary when we know we have a 2nd cornerback.

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I know, I know... STILL I'm holding onto hope that Smoot will be back.

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They are reporting on the wfan that Coles could be released as early as tommorow and the reason for his asking to be released is a meeting he had with Gibb's sighting the team's reluctance to throw the ball downfield, so I guess Gibb's reply was we will continue NOT to throw the ball downfield so we might as well part way's.

This coupled with comment's by opposing scout's saying that our offense is nothing special, and the scheme's are simple and easy to diagnois doesn't bold well in my confidence that Gibb's still has it, I guess were going to find out though.

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]
Oh by the way, before everyone falls all over themselves congragulating the Redskins' organization for resolving this problem, recall thgat Coles also cost the organization a first round pick that went to the Jets. Who did they get with that pick and who might the Sins have gotten with that pick?[/QUOTE]

They traded the pick to the Bears along with their other #1 to move up to draft Dewayne Robertson.. The Bears turned around and sent that pick to the Pats for Ty Warren.. Neither player (nor team) really benefited from that deal..

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/tracker/round?round=1[/url]

Jerome McDougal, Troy Palomalu and Dallas Clark are the only players of impact that were drafted after the 13th pick the Redskins would have had.

On Coles, if he wants to leave then kick rocks, get the hell out.. I would prefer the Redskins try to restructure his contract and make a trade so they can get something for him rather than let him just walk for no return..

To replace him then I'd like to see them go after Derrick Mason and draft Mike Williams to put with Jacobs and Thrash and hopefully McCants to form a formidable WR corps.. Without better playcalling (which Breaux, Bugel and Gibbs all admitted needed to be improved) and QB play it doesn't matter who is on the field..

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dammit guys, having Jansen back won't do near enough to fix this [b]MESS[/b] of an offense. neither will Musgrave.

we're in a serious pickle here. we need to hope for:

3) we get an actual non-bust receiver in the draft who can PLAY
2) Taylor Jacobs comes out and has a surprise breakout year ala "Fierce like Pierce"

1) Joe Gibbs already had a tremendous adjustment job looming, now he has to COMPLETELY rebuild, and with new pieces, then make it second nature by next season.

dammit dammit

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McCants suit UP

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Fierce like Pierce -- I like it!

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yeah thanx. just came out, can't believe i havent heard it yet.

NOW SIGN THE DOTTED LINE ANTONIO

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[QUOTE=offiss]They are reporting on the wfan that Coles could be released as early as tommorow and the reason for his asking to be released is a meeting he had with Gibb's sighting the team's reluctance to throw the ball downfield, so I guess Gibb's reply was we will continue NOT to throw the ball downfield so we might as well part way's.

This coupled with comment's by opposing scout's saying that our offense is nothing special, and the scheme's are simple and easy to diagnois doesn't bold well in my confidence that Gibb's still has it, I guess were going to find out though.[/QUOTE]

Although it's possible that Gibbs' thinking was "so long as you and Gardner are my top receivers I'm not throwing it downfield..but if I can find some other receivers that may change"

I mean time and again he kept saying the problem is more than just Brunell, I guess he thought it might have been the WRs more than any of us thought

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[QUOTE=Daseal]I bet the Giants look for a receiver too![/QUOTE]

I think LC is trying to figure out some way to enroll at South Carolina and reunite with your boy Spurrier

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Paintrain:

Wow, the Skins would have had a shot at Polamalu or Dallas Clark? Those are both very good players. McDougal is OK but not nearly at the level of the other two.

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SmootSmack - who can blame him. Running curl routes gets annoying.

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curls? maybe on a good day. how many of LC's catches were behind the line on screens? to Gibb's and Coles's credit, it did produce some yards, but it was hardly an 'air attack'

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That's very true, ill. He caught more screens under Gibbs than with Spurrier!