Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]I think that we should trade down and pick up Mark Clayton, from what I saw of him in the drills he looks really good. I think that we would be able to add picks and still get a good WR out of the draft.[/QUOTE]


This is the WR I want with the Redskins next season...

At 5'11" 187lbs, Clayton lacks prototypical size for an NFL receiver, but he makes up for his lack of height with excellent leaping ability. He has good speed, can score from anywhere on the field, and is probably the best player at the wide receiver position in college football when it comes to his open field running and ability to get yards after the catch. He has sure hands, runs precise routes and does a good job of adjusting to the football when it is in the air. He has proven to be a great leader both on and off the field and has a tireless work ethic.

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

Yes except if we keep Coles and draft Clayton, then our top 3 WRs will all be in the same mold: small, fast, and somewhat worthless in the red zone. Williams would provide us that change-up. That is why he is such an awesome fit for the team.

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

that being said daseal, you don't think the new 5 yard contact rule will help someone with williams' size and strength?

well, you got me pegged as being down for my school, but i'd like to think i don't fall in the homer category. i remember posting my opinion that aaron rodgers is a better pro prospect than matt leinart (before matt decided to stay in school). i'm not so high on BMW because i'm a passive armchair fan. i watched him play at the coliseum for two years. i'm able to say he has much more potential than keyshawn johnson (who people are comparing him to) because i saw keyshawn play his entire senior year- there's absolutely no comparison. While I pushed Udeze last year in the draft, I thought Chad Morton (another SC guy who i saw play on Saturdays) was grossly overrated by the Skins' scouts when he was signed a few years back.

you're right- he has to face much better competition in the NFL than college. but you've gotta apply that logic to everyone that's in the draft- not just Mike. but all we've got to go on right now is college production, current physical and mental shape, and future potential. and i'm layin' it down right now... mike may take some time to get things figured out- but if nothing abnormal gets in the way (freak injury), he's going to be a perennial all-pro.

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That's if we decide to pass more than 5 yards. I was upset to see that we didn't even take the CHANCE on getting the penalty (except when it was called on us).

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

[QUOTE=e16bball]Yes except if we keep Coles and draft Clayton, then our top 3 WRs will all be in the same mold: small, fast, and somewhat worthless in the red zone. Williams would provide us that change-up. That is why he is such an awesome fit for the team.[/QUOTE]

I understand what you are saying, but think of it this way, what if Coles leaves this year or next year? We need a playmaker to take over for him. I am not counting out Jacobs, but I think that we could trade down pick up Clayton and then maybe a DE all in the first round. Plus from what I saw of Clayton when he was running his drills at the combine was that he has great consintration, good hands, and very good speed.

I honestly dont think that we will be able to pick up Edwards or Williams with the Bears, Titans, and the Vikes all picking ahead of us. I understand that with the Bears signing Mushin(SP) they have a less of a need at WR but Mushin(SP) is 32 years old, which means that his years are limited in the NFL.

Another WR that I would like us to draft is Vincent Jackson out of Nothern Colarado. He has great size at 6'6" and 235lbs and pretty good speed at 4.53. But I think that he would be a late 2nd to maybe early 3rd. But talk about a possion reciever.

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

Ivne - You make good points, but I should have expanded a bit. I think that the 5 yard rule will both help and hurt Mike Williams. Because of his tendency to push off to create all that seperation he gets, he could get a lot of offensive pass interference calls against him. He was a big name playing at a big school. He got every call in the world (just like the Lakers did a few years ago.) In the NFL the corners will be able to play him more physical and won't be completely dominated like many of the college corners he faced.

I think he'll be good -- but I don't see a big first year. Out of all the receivers this year, he's the best one in my eyes. Edwards is a very close 2nd. However, had he gotten into the draft last year he woulda fallen below fitz/Williams. That's just my feeling. He'd be a GREAT red zone target (assuming we get the balls to throw on the opponents side of the field) and he has amazing hands. I think he could be a great player, don't get me wrong. Just saying I can see him having a bit of trouble adjusting. However, very few people can get used to how the NFL works in the first year especially at the WR position.

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

I don't know though... how often do you really see OFFENSIVE pass interference called? I would like to get SOME kind of call, maybe take advantage of the illegal contact rule. It seems like 3 out of 4 times the defensive guy will get called for it.

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

Malcolm - I believe our team saw more Off. pass INT than we got calls for PI during the season. =p

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

Seriously? I could have sworn I didn't see any O Pass INT. I DO definitely know we hardly got ANY PI calls.

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

[QUOTE=e16bball]Yes except if we keep Coles and draft Clayton, then our top 3 WRs will all be in the same mold: small, fast, and somewhat worthless in the red zone. Williams would provide us that change-up. That is why he is such an awesome fit for the team.[/QUOTE]

Thats what Cooley is for. Redzone TD's

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Hopefully that's what Portis will be for too.;)

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I'd rather have more than one passing option in the end zone. McCants could be it. Fade to the back corner!

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I really would love to see McCants get some more looks in the upcoming season because it doesn't appear like they are trying to shop him anywhere.

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

Or McCants could be simply cut, that's probably the likely scenario.

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

I saw Williams run a 4.56 last night. He is a big dude, and he has incredible hands. But I dont think He will slide to 9. I think Minnesota is going to nab him right before us.

Re: Mike Williams and Troy Williamson
 

[QUOTE=Monksdown]I saw Williams run a 4.56 last night. He is a big dude, and he has incredible hands. But I dont think He will slide to 9. I think Minnesota is going to nab him right before us.[/QUOTE]

Thats why I think that we trade down and pick up Clayton and then hopefully we can pick up another 1st round pick or an early 2nd round pick and pick up a pass rushing DE or DT. Cause I honestly dont think that Williams or Edwards will be around at #9.