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PWNED 12-06-2012 09:01 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;971544]This is going to be a fun one to watch.

Unlike a few years ago, when it was 2 top 10 defenses going at it, [I][B]this time its going to be 2 top offenses going at it.
[/B][/I]
Ed Reed today said RG3 is like superman, and for RG3 to not run the ball is like telling superman to not fly.

Do we have a CB fast enough to cover Torrey? I don't think so..

Side note: Inside the NFL guys all picked us to beat the ravens.

Also London was on Jim Romes new show. Jim asked him about our chances of going on a run in the playoffs. Londons response didn't sound too confident at first, then he said we've been playing our best football and we'll see. He didn't flat out say "Oh I definitely think we can go on a run"... :([/quote]

if you mean by top offenses, almost the 20th for b-more and top ten for us. ;)

mredskins 12-06-2012 09:14 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
I just really really want to win this one. the years of abuse I have taken from Raven's fans has been enough. To shut them up would be tremendous.

CRedskinsRule 12-06-2012 09:20 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
By the way, our last regular season win against an AFC opponent was Dec 26th, 2010 against Jacksonville in OT 20-17, our last non-overtime win was Dec 21st, 2009 against Oakland 34-13.

We are 0-2 (obviously) against the AFC North so far, so even though I think we match up well with both the Ravens and Cleveland, I think it's gonna be hard to beat them both.

skinsguy 12-06-2012 09:32 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
Well, I have friends who live in the Baltimore area, and what some of you described in regards to Ravens fans is absolutely true. There is one friend who says that the only Super Bowl that counts for the Redskins is the '91 Super Bowl. his reasoning was that the Redskins played in strike shortened years, and if the those teams had played a full 16 game schedule, they would not have went to the Super Bowl and yadda yadda yadda. I told him that was the standard for being a true Super Bowl Champion, then all of the teams that had won the Super Bowl and earlier NFL Championships prior to the season going to 16 games should also be stripped of their Championship titles from those seasons.

He didn't have anything else to say about that afterward, but he did call Jack Kent Cooke a POS for trying his best to block the Browns from moving into Baltimore, since of course it would have eaten into the Redskins market. I told him any owner would have done the same thing.

But anyways, great guys otherwise, but I DO sense some sort of arrogance among them being Ravens fans. Even now, they feel there is no doubt the Ravens will beat the Redskins soundly, because they buy into the same old song dance about Daniel Snyder, and etc...

So, I despise the Baltimore Ravens. Mostly because of their fans who are turn coats and fair weather fans. I guarantee if the Ravens start to go down the toilet bowl and the 'skins start rising up to the top, you'll see them jump ship again.

With all of that said, IF the 'skins are to drop one of the last four games remaining, I would MUCH rather it be against either the Ravens or the Browns. Because, I DO have a feeling the Giants are going to end at 9-7 again, and if the 'skins go 3-1, they will win the division. Of course, you can't count on the Giants dropping two games, and ultimately I feel the 'skins need to win out, but in terms of momentum, it's best of the 'skins to drop their one game against the Ravens and finish strong beating the Browns, Eagles, and Cowboys.

It's going to be a tough game and I still believe if the 'skins win this weekend, they're finishing 10-6, winning the division, and making the playoffs.

FRPLG 12-06-2012 09:44 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
You need better friends.

BigHairedAristocrat 12-06-2012 09:51 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
I think we beat the ravens, but lose to the browns.

mredskins 12-06-2012 09:52 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=skinsguy;971587]Well, I have friends who live in the Baltimore area, and what some of you described in regards to Ravens fans is absolutely true. There is one friend who says that the only Super Bowl that counts for the Redskins is the '91 Super Bowl. his reasoning was that the Redskins played in strike shortened years, and if the those teams had played a full 16 game schedule, they would not have went to the Super Bowl and yadda yadda yadda. I told him that was the standard for being a true Super Bowl Champion, then all of the teams that had won the Super Bowl and earlier NFL Championships prior to the season going to 16 games should also be stripped of their Championship titles from those seasons.

He didn't have anything else to say about that afterward, but he did call Jack Kent Cooke a POS for trying his best to block the Browns from moving into Baltimore, since of course it would have eaten into the Redskins market. I told him any owner would have done the same thing.

But anyways, great guys otherwise, but I DO sense some sort of arrogance among them being Ravens fans. Even now, they feel there is no doubt the Ravens will beat the Redskins soundly, because they buy into the same old song dance about Daniel Snyder, and etc...

So, I despise the Baltimore Ravens. Mostly because of their fans who are turn coats and fair weather fans. I guarantee if the Ravens start to go down the toilet bowl and the 'skins start rising up to the top, you'll see them jump ship again.

With all of that said, IF the 'skins are to drop one of the last four games remaining, I would MUCH rather it be against either the Ravens or the Browns. Because, I DO have a feeling the Giants are going to end at 9-7 again, and if the 'skins go 3-1, they will win the division. Of course, you can't count on the Giants dropping two games, and ultimately I feel the 'skins need to win out, but in terms of momentum, it's best of the 'skins to drop their one game against the Ravens and finish strong beating the Browns, Eagles, and Cowboys.

It's going to be a tough game and I still believe if the 'skins win this weekend, they're finishing 10-6, winning the division, and making the playoffs.[/quote]

All true and exactly what I experience. The team the Ravens I like the fan base is just plain awful.

PWNED 12-06-2012 10:06 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
If we beat them, it'll be, "Well we had injuries, blah blah blah." Seems so rare when anyone gives a team credit for just executing. It's always the other team had an off day.

NC_Skins 12-06-2012 10:34 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
By the numbers:

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][B][SIZE="3"]Baltimore Offense:[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

Yards per game - 19th (343.2 ypg)
Points per game- 9th (25.5 ppg)



[COLOR="Red"][B][SIZE="3"]Redskins Offense:[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

Yards per game - 7th (383.7 ypg)
Points per game- 8th (26 ppg)



[SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkOrchid"][B]Baltimore Defense:[/B] [/COLOR][/SIZE]

Yards per game allowed - 25th (372.2 ypg)
Points per game allowed - 8th (20.2 ppg)

[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Redskins Defense:[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

Yards per game allowed - 29th (390.5 ypg)
Points per game allowed - 23rd (25.1 ppg)



The two teams are pretty close to being even, but the one area that is huge between us and the Ravens is their points allowed per game. They are a stingy defense that really doesn't give up points easily. Which means we have to capitalize on the red zone trips. Moving the ball up and down the field isn't going to do jack shit for us. You don't win games with the most amount of yards, you win it by points. Stating the obvious but still.

53Fan 12-06-2012 10:39 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=The Goat;971545]^^ Got a put a safety over T Smith all game long, simple as that. I like that we're not overly confident, it means we should be ready for every game.[/quote]

Yeah. I'm liking that too. Try to keep any big plays to a minimum..get some pressure on Flacco..and hold them to FG's as much as possible. Game over...Redskins win.

RedskinRat 12-06-2012 11:04 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
HoldenKushner‏@Holdenradio

Stumbled upon this stat: Much-maligned #Redskins defense is 7th in the NFL with 64 QB hits. The Ravens have registered just 49.

FRPLG 12-06-2012 11:09 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=RedskinRat;971629]HoldenKushner‏@Holdenradio

Stumbled upon this stat: Much-maligned #Redskins defense is 7th in the NFL with 64 QB hits. The Ravens have registered just 49.[/quote]

That seems..inaccurate. Maybe that stat needs some explaining.

RedskinRat 12-06-2012 11:10 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=FRPLG;971636]That seems..inaccurate. Maybe that stat needs some explaining.[/quote]

Nonsense, sir! It's from Twitter, it doesn't need to be verified.

SmootSmack 12-06-2012 11:16 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=RedskinRat;971629]HoldenKushner‏@Holdenradio

Stumbled upon this stat: Much-maligned #Redskins defense is 7th in the NFL with 64 QB hits. The Ravens have registered just 49.[/quote]

That's backwards. Offense has given up 64 QB hits. Ravens just 49

firstdown 12-06-2012 11:23 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=hooskins;971454]If rg3 continues to play well and stays healthy there will be a ton of bandwagon fans in the coming years.[/quote]

I don't think its all based off RGIII it will happen if the Skins start to win more no matter who is at QB. With that said I think RGII has another big game and we pull this one off.

DynamiteRave 12-06-2012 11:41 AM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
The Ravens really aren't that great. Ray Rice carries that offense, in my opinion because Flacco is really hit or miss.

calia 12-06-2012 12:43 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;971605]By the numbers:

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][B][SIZE="3"]Baltimore Offense:[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

Yards per game - 19th (343.2 ypg)
Points per game- 9th (25.5 ppg)



[COLOR="Red"][B][SIZE="3"]Redskins Offense:[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

Yards per game - 7th (383.7 ypg)
Points per game- 8th (26 ppg)



[SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkOrchid"][B]Baltimore Defense:[/B] [/COLOR][/SIZE]

Yards per game allowed - 25th (372.2 ypg)
Points per game allowed - 8th (20.2 ppg)

[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Redskins Defense:[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

Yards per game allowed - 29th (390.5 ypg)
Points per game allowed - 23rd (25.1 ppg)



The two teams are pretty close to being even, but the one area that is huge between us and the Ravens is their points allowed per game. They are a stingy defense that really doesn't give up points easily. Which means we have to capitalize on the red zone trips. Moving the ball up and down the field isn't going to do jack shit for us. Don't game with the most amount of yards, you win it by points. Stating the obvious but still.[/quote]

This is really interesting. The Ravens score more points than their yards/game would suggest, and give up fewer than the yards against them/game would suggest. This suggests that they are good at closing the deal on offense and bend but don't break on defense. One might characterize our team in the recent win streak in about the same fashion.

It seems to me that these teams are pretty evenly matched -- two strong, smash mouth RBs, we have a better QB, but they have a better defense. To me, this may come down to whose O-line holds up best -- protect RGIII and carve some holes for Morris, and we can control the ball and do well. Create some pressure on Flacco (which, let's face it, hasn't been our strong suit) and keep Rice from taking over -- in other words, beat up their O-line -- and we ought to win. I don't think they have skills players on offense to make up for shoddy O-line play. Good WRs, but not dominant ones. A very good back, but his numbers lag behind AM1's and a number of other backs in the league. And a QB who is hot and cold.

I am thinking Skins 23, Ravens 20.

calia 12-06-2012 12:49 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
So I know teams say that they need to hit the QB, but the Ravens think (not without justification -- see the Skins/Bengals and Skins/Falcons games) that they have to hit RGIII to win. [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000106618/article/bernard-pollard-ravens-have-to-hit-robert-griffin-iii]Bernard Pollard: Ravens have to hit Robert Griffin III - NFL.com[/url]

If I were Shanahan, I might make sure that at the outset of the game to remind the officials to look for cheap, late stuff. It's going to happen, but if the officials clamp down on it early enough, they may prevent stuff from getting out of hand.

And we ought to bubble wrap RGIII.

NC_Skins 12-06-2012 01:07 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[url=http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/14e3k8/reminder_alfred_morris_is_doing_an_ama_at_4pm_est/]Reminder: Alfred Morris is doing an AMA at 4pm EST : nfl[/url]


Alfred Morris is doing a AMA on Reddit at 4pm EST. Ask questions if you like. :)







Dale Jr. a big Skins fan.

[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2012/12/06/dale-jr-why-i-love-the-redskins/]The Redskins Blog | Dale Jr.: ‘Why I Love The Redskins’[/url]

Chico23231 12-06-2012 01:12 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;971729][url=http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/14e3k8/reminder_alfred_morris_is_doing_an_ama_at_4pm_est/]Reminder: Alfred Morris is doing an AMA at 4pm EST : nfl[/url]


Alfred Morris is doing a AMA on Reddit at 4pm EST. Ask questions if you like. :)







Dale Jr. a big Skins fan.

[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2012/12/06/dale-jr-why-i-love-the-redskins/]The Redskins Blog | Dale Jr.: ‘Why I Love The Redskins’[/url][/quote]


Thats an awesome piece by Junior. Ive always been a fan of his, but his father is my all time favorite athlete.

PWNED 12-06-2012 01:49 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
im reading some of these comemnts from ravens fans. EVERY OEN OF THEM is like, "were just going to hurt rg3."

classy move, but i expected nothing less.

REDSKINS4ever 12-06-2012 02:41 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;971605]By the numbers:

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][B][SIZE="3"]Baltimore Offense:[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

Yards per game - 19th (343.2 ypg)
Points per game- 9th (25.5 ppg)



[COLOR="Red"][B][SIZE="3"]Redskins Offense:[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

Yards per game - 7th (383.7 ypg)
Points per game- 8th (26 ppg)



[SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkOrchid"][B]Baltimore Defense:[/B] [/COLOR][/SIZE]

Yards per game allowed - 25th (372.2 ypg)
Points per game allowed - 8th (20.2 ppg)

[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]Redskins Defense:[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

Yards per game allowed - 29th (390.5 ypg)
Points per game allowed - 23rd (25.1 ppg)



The two teams are pretty close to being even, but the one area that is huge between us and the Ravens is their points allowed per game. They are a stingy defense that really doesn't give up points easily. Which means we have to capitalize on the red zone trips. Moving the ball up and down the field isn't going to do jack shit for us. You don't win games with the most amount of yards, you win it by points. Stating the obvious but still.[/quote]

If the Redskins play the way they have been and stay red hot like they are right now, then we ain't losing to anybody. We'll finish the season at 10-6.

los panda 12-06-2012 02:43 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
can we add a vote to this thread for the title of the game?

i'd like to suggest the
[B]beltway bowl[/B]

DynamiteRave 12-06-2012 02:50 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=los panda;971815]can we add a vote to this thread for the title of the game?

i'd like to suggest the
[B]beltway bowl[/B][/quote]

I keep trying to think of things like "Malice at the Palace"

But I don't think anything really rhymes with Fedex.

los panda 12-06-2012 02:58 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;971820]I keep trying to think of things like "Malice at the Palace"

But I don't think anything really rhymes with Fedex.[/quote]i love it

now i'm going to be trying to think of something like this all day

RedskinRat 12-06-2012 02:59 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
FedEx Frowdown.....Throwdown. Damn it!

BigHairedAristocrat 12-06-2012 03:12 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
We should refer to it as the Superbowl preview.

DynamiteRave 12-06-2012 03:20 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;971831]We should refer to it as the Superbowl preview.[/quote]

Ravens will just choke in the Championship game as usual.

PWNED 12-06-2012 03:22 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
honestly if i had to pick a single team with odds of GOING to the super bowl to play against us, id pick the ravens 10 out of 10 times. i just dont thnk theyre as good as their record.

CRedskinsRule 12-06-2012 03:24 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;971820]I keep trying to think of things like "Malice at the Palace"

But I don't think anything really rhymes with Fedex.[/quote]

I was trying to think of something for the thread title, but nothing sounded right :(

Fedex Free For all
Fedex Fire

maybe
Fight at Fedex

seriously nothin' :(

RGIII 12-06-2012 03:27 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
Great OP. Skins have no choice but to try and stop Ray Rice and score, score, score.

Lotus 12-06-2012 04:01 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
Hex at Fedex

calia 12-06-2012 04:24 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
Landover Lambasting?
Flayed at FedEx?
FedExtermination?

SmootSmack 12-06-2012 04:47 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
Fight for Respects at FedEx

Come Corrects at FedEx

Battle to Survive on 495/95

I'm a Slap Yo B**** A** Face You Smug Mother****ing Ravens Fan With the Back of My Hand...at Maryland

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-06-2012 04:59 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
The Express at FedEx

Skinsfanatic 12-06-2012 05:13 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
Landover Raven Roast

Fedex Bird Massacre

The football game in Maryland where the host team is the one team not from Maryland.

CRedskinsRule 12-06-2012 06:46 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
Requiem at Raljon

DynamiteRave 12-06-2012 06:52 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
Bent over at Landover.

Hm. I guess I can't use over and over.

53Fan 12-06-2012 07:09 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
Skins muscles flex
On the Ravens at FedEx?

Skins show their pecs
To the Ravens at FedEx?

Ravens feel like they've received anal sex
After playing the Skins at FedEx?

los panda 12-06-2012 07:12 PM

Re: Ravens V Redskins - Beltway Brawl or Maryland Massacre?
 
the chesapeake challenge


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