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From one Dirt Bag to another, miss having Bugel around, have the same sentiment exactly, in no mood to 'chat' with Seahawks fans

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The field needs to be changed. Unacceptable Snyder. You have the money to fix it; FIX IT.

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It's not even even all that expensive anymore. It used to costs millions. Now I think there are companies that do it for a mil or less.

Just agreeing with all of you...FedEx needs FieldTurf. The field at FedEx has been a mess since the stadium opened.

I do agree that the field at RFK was not great either, but it was not as bad as the field FedEx.

As ya all have said, Dan Snyder needs to shell out the bucks for a new field.

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The field is a dangerous embarrassment. It looked like the Gotham Stadium field AFTER Bane blew it up. It is totally unacceptable and if that is the best they can do, it's time to call the people at FieldTurf or maybe install that hybrid turf they have at Lambeau and Lincoln Financial.

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[QUOTE=mooby;985995]I don't think there's any way Snyder doesn't shell out some change to put in a new field this offseason. After the national exposure from the game and talk about how it might have contributed to his franchise quarterback's knee injury he will be crucified if nothing is done about it. It seems we're all in agreement that the field is in terrible shape, the next question should be which option are we going to go with.

I'm not sure I want Fieldturf in there with all the rumors about injuries it causes. Even if they just re-sodded the field and brought a couple natural grass experts in to work their magic I'd be ok with that.[/QUOTE]

I just feel like the Skins are a grass team. Always have been and always should. The idea of having an artificial surface seems weird to me although today's surfaces seem to be a lot better than they used to be.

It seems like a lot of other grass fields fair way better the fedex.

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[quote=donofriose;985792]I think the injuries effected them a lot as well. Losing Clemons is huge for their Dline and having an injured kicker is never good thing for playoff games.[/quote]

Seattle should be upset after suffering those injuries. Of course, had the conditions been better, Clemons and the kicker would be perfectly healthy and watching the Redskins in the divisional playoffs.

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[quote=44Deezel;986208]I just feel like the Skins are a grass team. Always have been and always should. The idea of having an artificial surface seems weird to me although today's surfaces seem to be a lot better than they used to be.[/quote]

I love grass. But like you said upkeep is essential and it should not look like that in a playoff game.

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[quote=mbedner3420;985793]It would be nice to have the turf just to enhance the speed of the team. No reason not to really.[/quote]

Not until we get a secondary! :D

They need all of the help they can get. The dirt field helps our safeties more than it hurts our WRs.

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Well, it's kind of looking like the media might be "forcing" a change at Fedex in regards to the field, whether if we like it or not:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/time-tosay-farewell-to-the-field-at-fedex-field/]Time to say farewell to the field at FedEx Field | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Not everyone thinks turf is the answer to safe playing fields

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/texans/2012/11/15/texans-brett-hartman-lawuit-reliant-stadium-unsafe-turf/1707461/]Former Texans punter files lawsuit over 'unsafe turf' at Reliant Stadium[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;987035]Not everyone thinks turf is the answer to safe playing fields

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/texans/2012/11/15/texans-brett-hartman-lawuit-reliant-stadium-unsafe-turf/1707461/]Former Texans punter files lawsuit over 'unsafe turf' at Reliant Stadium[/url][/quote]

They use real grass there

The stadium recently installed removable AstroTurf to be used for non-NFL events. For Texans games, workers piece together more than 1,200, 8-by-8-foot palettes of real grass with forklifts. Hartmann caught his left foot in a seam between palettes and was placed on injured reserve. The lawsuit says Hartmann suffered a "significant and career-threatening injury."

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[quote=SmootSmack;987035]Not everyone thinks turf is the answer to safe playing fields

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/texans/2012/11/15/texans-brett-hartman-lawuit-reliant-stadium-unsafe-turf/1707461/]Former Texans punter files lawsuit over 'unsafe turf' at Reliant Stadium[/url][/quote]i guess i never paid attention, i thought they did theirs like the cardinals, not w forklifts :doh:

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[quote=Mattyk;987037]They use real grass there

The stadium recently installed removable AstroTurf to be used for non-NFL events. For Texans games, workers piece together more than 1,200, 8-by-8-foot palettes of real grass with forklifts. Hartmann caught his left foot in a seam between palettes and was placed on injured reserve. The lawsuit says Hartmann suffered a "significant and career-threatening injury."[/quote]

Well damn I read that wrong.

This won't help my attempts to secure more money to return for another year as a mod

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[quote=SmootSmack;987041]Well damn I read that wrong.

This won't help my attempts to secure more money to return for another year as a mod[/quote]i'd like to point out that real grass can also be referred to as turf, don't let matty sass you

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[quote=SmootSmack;987041]Well damn I read that wrong.

This won't help my attempts to secure more money to return for another year as a mod[/quote]

strike 2 bud

we still have to talk about strike 1

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Well, if it really does help to cut down on injuries, especially serious injures, then I'm all for it. It would certainly make Fed Fex Field look better.

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Hope the Redskins just start to build a new stadium, hopefully where RFK is or in northern VA. 1 billion dollar stadium please.

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[quote=donofriose;987067]Hope the Redskins just start to build a new stadium, hopefully where RFK is or in northern VA. 1 billion dollar stadium please.[/quote]

Build it between NoVa and Blacksburg so it won't be such a long trip for me, lol!

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[quote=skinsguy;987031]Well, it's kind of looking like the media might be "forcing" a change at Fedex in regards to the field, whether if we like it or not:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/time-tosay-farewell-to-the-field-at-fedex-field/]Time to say farewell to the field at FedEx Field | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

In defense of FedEx, they put down a new surface during every off-season.

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[quote=SkinsLove24/7;987069]In defense of FedEx, they put down a new surface during every off-season.[/quote]

They need to do it quarterly throughout the year then. Just put down field turf and be done with it.

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[quote=donofriose;987067]Hope the Redskins just start to build a new stadium, hopefully where RFK is or in northern VA. 1 billion dollar stadium please.[/quote]

I've really wondered over the past couple of years if that's what is stopping Snyder from making the improvements to the field, the possibility of FedEx being a short-term home with a possible move back into D.C. However, we just renovated with the big screen and the party decks, so I think that theory is shot down now.

It should be a simple decision for Dan...do you want to protect your investment? RGIII is probably his biggest investment to date in terms of potential return.

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[quote=Monkeydad;987075]I've really wondered over the past couple of years if that's what is stopping Snyder from making the improvements to the field, the possibility of FedEx being a short-term home with a possible move back into D.C. However, we just renovated with the big screen and the party decks, so I think that theory is shot down now.

It should be a simple decision for Dan...do you want to protect your investment? RGIII is probably his biggest investment to date in terms of potential return.[/quote]

I think its called "money". That is what is stopping him.

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How on earth does Greenbays field always look awesome? Whatever they do in the frozen tundra they need to do at fedex.

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[quote=donofriose;987067]Hope the Redskins just start to build a new stadium, [B]hopefully where RFK is [/B]or in northern VA. 1 billion dollar stadium please.[/quote]

This is a horrible idea for a couple of reasons:

1) Fedex is one of the one of the newer/nicer stadiums in the league. Financially, for the team, league, and taxpayers who'd be expected to contribute, it doesnt make sense to move. Its just a dream of older fans who daydream about the "glory days."

2) Unless you want to root for the Washington Warriors, you shouldnt want the team to move back to D.C.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/mike-debonis/wp/2013/01/09/redskins-name-change-should-be-discussed-vincent-gray-says/]Redskins name change should be discussed, Vincent Gray says[/url]

[quote]Mayor Vincent C. Gray (D) today suggested there would have to be a controversial prerequisite to any stadium deal: a name change, or at least discussion of one.
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The Washington "Redskins" are not moving back to D.C. Time to move on.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;987083]How on earth does Greenbays field always look awesome? Whatever they do in the frozen tundra they need to do at fedex.[/quote]

Maybe that is why they are always rated as one of the best franchises for fan experiences every year. Also because the fans own the team.

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[quote=donofriose;987081]I think its called "money". That is what is stopping him.[/quote]

So he drops mega millions on players/coaches but won't drop a couple million for a field? Not sure I buy that's the reason.

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[quote=donofriose;987096]Maybe that is why they are always rated as one of the best franchises for fan experiences every year. Also because the fans own the team.[/quote]

I think the fan experience is great because of how long the stadium's been there, special rule consessions the NFL makes for Lambeau, and the fact that, for the most part, they've had a good team to root for, for the majority of its history. Most recently, theve only had 2 losing seasons in the past 20 years.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;987095]This is a horrible idea for a couple of reasons:

1) Fedex is one of the one of the newer/nicer stadiums in the league. Financially, for the team, league, and taxpayers who'd be expected to contribute, it doesnt make sense to move. Its just a dream of older fans who daydream about the "glory days."

2) Unless you want to root for the Washington Warriors, you shouldnt want the team to move back to D.C.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/mike-debonis/wp/2013/01/09/redskins-name-change-should-be-discussed-vincent-gray-says/]Redskins name change should be discussed, Vincent Gray says[/url]



The Washington "Redskins" are not moving back to D.C. Time to move on.[/quote]

1) It was a hypothetical situation. I know they won't move.

2) This fall the stadium will be 16 years old, not exactly new.

3) There are 16 newer stadiums in the NFL, I would not call it one of the newer stadiums in the NFL. It is in the bottom half.

4) If you move to Northern Virginia or DC, two of the richest areas in the nation, especially the US, they would be able to find the funds for it, if Indianapolis and Dallas found the resources, I am sure Northern VA or DC could find the resources.

5) Like the article states, they would discuss it, the mayor would need support in order to create a change... you really think he is going to get it? Northern VA is also an option and would have the backing of an entire state, unlike DC (which is only a city).

6) The stadium is nice? I went to different sites to get different opinions of the quality of the stadium on a gameday for fans and fan experience Washington ranks 25th, 19th, and 27th,

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[quote=Mattyk;987100]So he drops mega millions on players/coaches but won't drop a couple million for a field? Not sure I buy that's the reason.[/quote]

I was referencing the part of the quote about moving the stadium. But I do not know why Snyder does not invest in field improvements.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;987102]I think the fan experience is great because of how long the stadium's been there, special rule consessions the NFL makes for Lambeau, and the fact that, for the most part, they've had a good team to root for, for the majority of its history. Most recently, theve only had 2 losing seasons in the past 20 years.[/quote]

Just like Pittsburgh, that is why they are considered two of the top franchises in the NFL.

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[quote=donofriose;987067]Hope the Redskins just start to build a new stadium, hopefully where RFK is or in northern VA. 1 billion dollar stadium please.[/quote]

They are money sinks for the community. They really don't generate capital as you might think. They take more from the community than they end up giving back.

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F a name change. I'd rather move the team to West Virginia than lose the Redskins name.

Wheeling Redskins sounds better than Washington Warriors to me.

Heck, build it at the Charlestown race track.

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[quote=SkinsLove24/7;987069]In defense of FedEx, they put down a new surface during every off-season.[/quote]

The problem is that they use a field designed for very low traffic and then put it through heavy traffic year round. It is bermuda grass on a soil base of 90% sand. UVA has the same field, but its rarely used beyond UVA Football, and they have a very nice field.

It is utterly moronic to choose a field designed for 15 or so football games per year then subject it to year round heavy activity. Not only is it the Redskins playing there, but also some college and HS football games there. As well as concerts and other events throughout the year. They need to go to a turf designed for heavy traffic, or go to the field turf.

To answer the Question about the Packers field. The reason theirs looks green year round is that they actually have a mix of natural grass and synthetic grass. Sounds like the Redskins need to look into that.

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[quote=Monkeydad;987129]F a name change. I'd rather move the team to West Virginia than lose the Redskins name.

Wheeling Redskins sounds better than Washington Warriors to me.

Heck, build it at the Charlestown race track.[/quote]

If I was Daniel Snyder and insisted on moving the team from their existing stadium, I would move it to VA and make them into the Virginia Redskins.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;987095][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/mike-debonis/wp/2013/01/09/redskins-name-change-should-be-discussed-vincent-gray-says/]Redskins name change should be discussed, Vincent Gray says[/url][/quote]Horrible article.

"As Courtland Milloy reminded Washington Post readers today, the Redskins moniker has been under fire for decades for being, plainly, a racial slur."

No it isn't a racial slur. It wasn't when the term was coined by an Indian. It's not now, especially by fans rooting FOR the Redskins.

I see DC hasn't upgraded the mayor position by much, since Marion Barry was running things there.

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[quote=HailGreen28;987160]Horrible article.

"As Courtland Milloy reminded Washington Post readers today, the Redskins moniker has been under fire for decades for being, plainly, a racial slur."

No it isn't a racial slur. It wasn't when the term was coined by an Indian. It's not now, especially by fans rooting FOR the Redskins.

I see DC hasn't upgraded the mayor position by much, since Marion Barry was running things there.[/quote]

So 0.5% of the Native American population in the US lives in DC, MD, and VA and the mayor doesn't want the Redskins in DC because the name is ''racist''? Please. I hate Vincent Gray.

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Where's the "Not this shit again" picture?