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Re: Are the Redskins becoming more of a Virginia based team?
 

[quote=Mattyk;995122]Heck of a first post. This was so critical that you had to spam the board with 10 useless one liners eh?

Where does everyone stand on this?

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Perhaps it is time to revisit this question. My thumb is down.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;995161]Football is full of traditions, this team is and will always be the Washinton Redskins. That is never going to change.

Making the assumption that all MD people are Ravens fan is pretty idiotic IMO. The team wouldn't be stupid enough to lose a fan base in DC and MD by moving the team to VA. The team and its facilities are always going to be somewhere in the DC area, accesible to fans from all three areas.

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At the same time, the team didn't lose their VA fan base when they moved the stadium to MD, so I'm not sure why the assumption would be that they would lose their DC and MD fans if the team moved into VA? The team's facilities are located in VA now anyway, just stone's throw away from DC. And Being a life long VA resident up until just recently, VA is anything but Luke warm to the Redskins and pro football in general. Anyone thinking otherwise knows nothing about the state.

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[quote=skinsguy;995241]At the same time, the team didn't lose their VA fan base when they moved the stadium to MD, so I'm not sure why the assumption would be that they would lose their DC and MD fans if the team moved into VA? The team's facilities are located in VA now anyway, just stone's throw away from DC. And Being a life long VA resident up until just recently, VA is anything but Luke warm to the Redskins and pro football in general. Anyone thinking otherwise knows nothing about the state.[/quote]

As someone stated, if the team were to move to No. VA, I don't think it would affect the fans much. This person that started the thread pretty much is saying that the Redskins ownership should cut ties with the DC and MD fans and move the team to VA, which to mean it would mean moving the team to a place like Richmond.

And being a lifelong DC Metropolitan area resident, I can tell anyone that:

a. There are many people native to DC that are Redskins fan (and who still live in the city)

b. All MD fans are NOT Ravens fans.

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[quote=Mattyk;995122]Heck of a first post. This was so critical that you had to spam the board with 10 useless one liners eh?

Where does everyone stand on this?

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Here's my answer....

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Let this kid take his stupid threads to Extremeskins.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;995261]As someone stated, if the team were to move to No. VA, I don't think it would affect the fans much. This person that started the thread pretty much is saying that the Redskins ownership should cut ties with the DC and MD fans and move the team to VA, which to mean it would mean moving the team to a place like Richmond.

And being a lifelong DC Metropolitan area resident, I can tell anyone that:

a. There are many people native to DC that are Redskins fan (and who still live in the city)

b. All MD fans are NOT Ravens fans.[/QUOTE]

I didn't read anything into the OP that suggested all MD residents are Ravens fans, but I know of several Baltimore residents who used to be Redskins fans and are now Ravens fans. Like it or not, the Ravens are MD's primary pro football team, not the Redskins. The Redskins have a larger presence in VA. Richmond IS Redskins country. The Redskins are worshipped there. Likewise, the Redskins are pretty much the main team VA residents root for from NoVa down to Southside VA. So moving a stadium into VA would probably be more beneficial to the franchise than keeping it in MD. Ultimately, I think what is most realistic is for the team to build in NoVa or in DC. Certainly I have a bias in moving the team as far into VA as possible, so that I could attend more games, but I don't see the team moving a stadium deep into VA nor changing to the Virginia Redskins.

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[quote=skinsguy;995268]I didn't read anything into the OP that suggested all MD residents are Ravens fans, but I know of several Baltimore residents who used to be Redskins fans and are now Ravens fans. Like it or not, the Ravens are MD's primary pro football team, not the Redskins. The Redskins have a larger presence in VA. Richmond IS Redskins country. The Redskins are worshipped there. Likewise, the Redskins are pretty much the main team VA residents root for from NoVa down to Southside VA. So moving a stadium into VA would probably be more beneficial to the franchise than keeping it in MD. Ultimately, I think what is most realistic is for the team to build in NoVa or in DC. Certainly I have a bias in moving the team as far into VA as possible, so that I could attend more games, but I don't see the team moving a stadium deep into VA nor changing to the Virginia Redskins.[/quote]

The Ravens are the primary team for certain places in MD. You go into areas like Montgomery, PG Co., and Southern MD, there are still a lot of fans that worship the Redskins. Heck, even where I live in Columbia there are quite of a lot of Redskins fans (to my surprise).

The stadium is going to stay in MD in the foreseeable future and probably move to DC eventually. It could go to No. VA, although personally I think the traffic in that area is the worst in the DC area and I think it would be a bad idea.

In the end the stadium will be accessible to the fanbase that has money, and that would most likely mean No. VA, DC, Montgomery Co., some parts of PG, and maybe Howard Co.

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IMO the Redskins would be smart to build a new stadium in Virginia, anywhere in Virginia. They could either keep the name Washington Redskins or change the name to the Virginia Redskins. Either way they'll have a large fan base, if they changed their name to the Virginia Redskins they would gain some new fans, although they would lose some fans as well, it would all probably equal out. I seriously doubt they ever do this but regardless, the majority of their fan base resides in Virginia, the Redskins ARE Virginia's team, the Ravens are primarily Maryland's team. The Redskins are smart by keeping there training facility and headquarters in VA as well as moving their practice facility into VA. Why fight for fans in Maryland with the Ravens when you can stake claim to Virginia, which is a much larger state with more people?

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[quote=KERRAKPO9198;995296]IMO the Redskins would be smart to build a new stadium in Virginia, anywhere in Virginia. They could either keep the name Washington Redskins or change the name to the Virginia Redskins. Either way they'll have a large fan base, if they changed their name to the Virginia Redskins they would gain some new fans, although they would lose some fans as well, it would all probably equal out. I seriously doubt they ever do this but regardless, the majority of their fan base resides in Virginia, the Redskins ARE Virginia's team, the Ravens are primarily Maryland's team. The Redskins are smart by keeping there training facility and headquarters in VA as well as moving their practice facility into VA. Why fight for fans in Maryland with the Ravens when you can stake claim to Virginia, which is a much larger state with more people?

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This post is too simple minded, and I hope your day job doesn't include making business decisions.

[QUOTE=KERRAKPO9198;995296]IMO the Redskins would be smart to build a new stadium in Virginia, anywhere in Virginia. They could either keep the name Washington Redskins or change the name to the Virginia Redskins. Either way they'll have a large fan base, if they changed their name to the Virginia Redskins they would gain some new fans, although they would lose some fans as well, it would all probably equal out. I seriously doubt they ever do this but regardless, the majority of their fan base resides in Virginia, the Redskins ARE Virginia's team, the Ravens are primarily Maryland's team. The Redskins are smart by keeping there training facility and headquarters in VA as well as moving their practice facility into VA. Why fight for fans in Maryland with the Ravens when you can stake claim to Virginia, which is a much larger state with more people?

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With Virginia already diehard Skins, tbat would be more reason to stay in PG. No business simply cedes market share that it has a viable stake in it, instead it will normally invest in expanding into new markets. Your contention that Virginia is already diehard, along with the fact that there really isn't another franchise likely to take Va fans away en masse means the Skins likely will try to strengthen its Maryland presence not lessen it.

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[quote=Ruhskins;995298]This post is too simple minded, and I hope your day job doesn't include making business decisions.[/quote]

Lets not forget lower taxes in Virginia as well.

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[quote=KERRAKPO9198;995296]IMO the Redskins would be smart to build a new stadium in Virginia, anywhere in Virginia. They could either keep the name Washington Redskins or change the name to the Virginia Redskins. Either way they'll have a large fan base, if they changed their name to the Virginia Redskins they would gain some new fans, although they would lose some fans as well, it would all probably equal out. I seriously doubt they ever do this but regardless, the majority of their fan base resides in Virginia, the Redskins ARE Virginia's team, the Ravens are primarily Maryland's team. The Redskins are smart by keeping there training facility and headquarters in VA as well as moving their practice facility into VA. Why fight for fans in Maryland with the Ravens when you can stake claim to Virginia, which is a much larger state with more people?

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I am sorry to inform you that even Hollywood is wrong sometimes. Although in the movie Gladiator, thumbs up meant let Maximus live, in real ancient Rome the thumbs up meant kill the person, thumbs down meant let them live. You have just committed messageboard suicide. Enjoy your day!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;995301]With Virginia already diehard Skins, tbat would be more reason to stay in PG. No business simply cedes market share that it has a viable stake in it, instead it will normally invest in expanding into new markets. Your contention that Virginia is already diehard, along with the fact that there really isn't another franchise likely to take Va fans away en masse means the Skins likely will try to strengthen its Maryland presence not lessen it.[/quote]

Yes Virginia is for the most part die hard Skins fans, but if the Redskins moved all of their facilities out of VA entirely, that may not go over well with Virginia Redskins fans. The Redskins are smart by keeping their training facility in Ashburn and moving their practice camp to Richmond to reach out to their fans deeper south in the state. They are expanding and creating stronger ties with the entire state of Virginia which is a good business decision. As stated in my previous post, Virginia is a larger state with more people than Maryland, meaning more fans and more potential fans in Virginia as opposed to Maryland. The Ravens are in Maryland, and more and more Maryland residents are jumping ship to the Ravens bandwagon. It makes sense for the Redskins to strengthen their ties with VA residents and expand in VA, which is a more business friendly state with lower taxes than Maryland or DC and more people as well. I have a feeling the next stadium is going to be in VA! Hail. Make it happen Danny boy.

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[quote=KERRAKPO9198;995296]IMO the Redskins would be smart to build a new stadium in Virginia, anywhere in Virginia. They could either keep the name Washington Redskins or change the name to the Virginia Redskins. Either way they'll have a large fan base, if they changed their name to the Virginia Redskins they would gain some new fans, although they would lose some fans as well, it would all probably equal out. I seriously doubt they ever do this but regardless, the majority of their fan base resides in Virginia, the Redskins ARE Virginia's team, the Ravens are primarily Maryland's team. The Redskins are smart by keeping there training facility and headquarters in VA as well as moving their practice facility into VA. Why fight for fans in Maryland with the Ravens when you can stake claim to Virginia, which is a much larger state with more people?

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You don't plan on listening to valid counterarguments or engaging in real conversation, do you troll?

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[quote=SkinzWin;995309]I am sorry to inform you that even Hollywood is wrong sometimes. Although in the movie Gladiator, thumbs up meant let Maximus live, in real ancient Rome the thumbs up meant kill the person, thumbs down meant let them live. You have just committed messageboard suicide. Enjoy your day![/quote]

Thanks for the History lesson, I find history very interesting, after I graduate school I am going to read The Times Complete History of the World.

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[quote=Lotus;995311]You don't plan on listening to valid counterarguments or engaging in real conversation, do you troll?[/quote]

Such a friendly message board, thanks for the warm welcome.

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The day the Skins move to Virginia is the day I stop being a fan. I will completely go Cleveland via the Browns moving back to Baltimore. A.k.a. F-everyone.

If Virginia wants a team, get a savvy business owner look into building a stadium out there. Fans already got irritated when the Skins moved from RFK out to Maryland. Then moving from Maryland to Virginia? Um. No.

I could maybe understand if no one was coming out to games... Like when the Montreal Expos moved to DC. But you're going to take years of tradition from DC, and move it out to inaccessible (for me at least. I'm not driving 2+ hours to Richmond or 4+ to VA Beach area) Virginia?

This post makes me want to vomit all over it.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;995315]The day the Skins move to Virginia is the day I stop being a fan. I will completely go Cleveland via the Browns moving back to Baltimore. A.k.a. F-everyone.

If Virginia wants a team, get a savvy business owner look into building a stadium out there. Fans already got irritated when the Skins moved from RFK out to Maryland. Then moving from Maryland to Virginia? Um. No.

I could maybe understand if no one was coming out to games... Like when the Montreal Expos moved to DC. But you're going to take years of tradition from DC, and move it out to inaccessible (for me at least. I'm not driving 2+ hours to Richmond or 4+ to VA Beach area) Virginia?

This post makes me want to vomit all over it.[/quote]

If the Redskins were to move to VA I imagine it would be a move to Northern Virginia

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[quote=KERRAKPO9198;995314]Such a friendly message board, thanks for the warm welcome.[/quote]

We are pretty friendly, but it's almost like you are sticking your fingers in your ears not listening.


[quote=DynamiteRave;995315]The day the Skins move to Virginia is the day I stop being a fan. I will completely go Cleveland via the Browns moving back to Baltimore. A.k.a. F-everyone.
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Why does it matter if it's in MD or VA? It's not in DC anymore so does it really matter if it's within close proximity? Many of the NFL stadiums sit outside the major cities they represent.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;995315]The day the Skins move to Virginia is the day I stop being a fan. I will completely go Cleveland via the Browns moving back to Baltimore. A.k.a. F-everyone.

If Virginia wants a team, get a savvy business owner look into building a stadium out there. Fans already got irritated when the Skins moved from RFK out to Maryland. Then moving from Maryland to Virginia? Um. No.

I could maybe understand if no one was coming out to games... Like when the Montreal Expos moved to DC. But you're going to take years of tradition from DC, and move it out to inaccessible (for me at least. I'm not driving 2+ hours to Richmond or 4+ to VA Beach area) Virginia?

This post makes me want to vomit all over it.[/quote]

Tell us how you really feel.

But, would you continue rooting for the Redskins if they built a new stadium in Northern Virginia?

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[quote=NC_Skins;995318]We are pretty friendly, but it's almost like you are sticking your fingers in your ears not listening.




Why does it matter if it's in MD or VA? It's not in DC anymore so does it really matter if it's within close proximity? Many of the NFL stadiums sit outside the major cities they represent.[/quote]

Northern Virginia is okay. But If you're moving it all the way to Richmond or VA Beach you might as well drop it in North Carolina.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;995321]Northern Virginia is okay. But If you're moving it all the way to Richmond or VA Beach you might as well drop it in North Carolina.[/quote]

I do not see the Redskins ever moving that far south away from DC. I think it will be within the Beltway and accessible by metro, like the stadium is now.

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Also, I think you guys are discussing the wrong points. The major point in all this is.........."Who's going to pay for the stadium?"


Virginia taxpayers? Maryland taxpayers?


Who's going to offer Danny boy a better deal? MD or VA? I assure you, that's the bottom line that will win out on where the stadium is placed.


Also, the main reason this is most likely being pushed now is due to the popularity of the team currently. Jerry Jones did the same thing. Made some moves to get the popularity up so he could sell his snake oil to the fans and taxpayers.

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He flat out admits that to partly sell the stadium, he had to bring in Bill Parcells get the hype up. It worked.


Look at San Francisco. They've capitalized on the 49ers success the past 2 years to not only get a new stadium, but to get idiots to fork over between 2k -80k for PSLs.

[url=http://www.mercurynews.com/southbayfootball/ci_21499027/san-francisco-49ers-sell-670-million-seats-new]San Francisco 49ers sell $670 million in seats for new stadium - San Jose Mercury News[/url]


Would any of you drop 2-6K per seat for a one time fee just for the right to purchase tickets?....lol

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[quote=donofriose;995322]I do not see the Redskins ever moving that far south away from DC. I think it will be within the Beltway and accessible by metro, like the stadium is now.[/quote]

Hope so. I am completely okay with it being in VA, so long as it continues to be metro accessible and continue to be Washington's team.

The thread starter tried to make it sound like they'd drop it somewhere farther south, and the team would basically be claimed by Virginia.

That I can't get with.

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[quote=KERRAKPO9198;995312]Thanks for the History lesson, I find history very interesting, after I graduate school I am going to read The Times Complete History of the World.[/quote]

:lol: Funny guy.

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[quote=KERRAKPO9198;995314]Such a friendly message board, thanks for the warm welcome.[/quote]

Your problem is you totally suck at making entrances.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;995315]I could maybe understand if no one was coming out to games... Like when the Montreal Expos moved to DC.[/quote]

While this may have been true near the end, fan support was not the reason the Expos left. There were many more sinister culprits. See the scumbag owner of the Marlins and his weasel sidekick for clues.

And damn you D-Rave for making me post in this thread! :banghead:

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;995338]While this may have been true near the end, fan support was not the reason the Expos left. There were many more sinister culprits. See the scumbag owner of the Marlins and his weasel sidekick for clues.

And damn you D-Rave for making me post in this thread! :banghead:[/quote]

Just admit it, you really like it, don't you CC?

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[quote=KERRAKPO9198;995314]Such a friendly message board, thanks for the warm welcome.[/quote]

Try hanging back and getting a feel for things before jumping in head first.