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wow

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Did the Patriots know this about Hernandez and got Tebow to be a TE? Yes, my conspiracy theory was correct.

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I would link to this if I could, but I read somewhere that said it was Hernandez's friend that was killed. If that's the case, I don't expect Hernandez to be charged with anything serious. He's probably being uncooperative because he doesn't want to be considered a snitch.

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[quote=mooby;1012551]I would link to this if I could, but I read somewhere that said it was Hernandez's friend that was killed. If that's the case, I don't expect Hernandez to be charged with anything serious. He's probably being uncooperative because he doesn't want to be considered a snitch.[/quote]

I'm no law expert, but I'm pretty sure you can go to jail for withholding information to police when they know you're a suspect/linked to the case in a major way (ie having a car used in the crime, thats under your name)

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^^ Ummm, yeah. It's called obstruction of justice or (more serious) accessory after the fact.

At the same time, you are free to exercise your 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination ... right after the cops get your fingerprints and DNA swab.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/19/report-hernandez-recently-was-sued-for-allegedly-shooting-someone-in-the-face/]Report: Hernandez recently was sued for allegedly shooting someone in the face | ProFootballTalk[/url]

damn Dick Chaney style

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1012566]^^ Ummm, yeah. It's called obstruction of justice or (more serious) accessory after the fact.

At the same time, you are free to exercise your 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination ...[B] right after the cops get your fingerprints and DNA swab[/B].[/quote]

is this true joe?

[QUOTE=dmek25;1012587]is this true joe?[/QUOTE]

JR is incapable of telling the truth, silly, he's an attorney.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1012566]^^ Ummm, yeah. It's called obstruction of justice or (more serious) accessory after the fact.

At the same time, you are free to exercise your 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination ... right after the cops get your fingerprints and DNA swab.[/quote]

I will defer to your opinion on this but in regards to my original post I meant a charge that would be likely to bring down his NFL career. He might get charged with a crime, but that doesn't mean it would ruin his career. I mean if Vick can get charged with killing dogs and spend 2 years in prison and still resume his career when he gets out, I don't see this resulting in anything that would amount to a lifetime ban from the NFL. Even if he did get convicted of obstruction of justice I still don't see the punishment ruining his career. Only way I see this ruining his career is if he actually did the deed, or assisted in some way that would make his prison sentence 10+ years. That's the point I was trying to get at without spending too much time on the subject.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1012588]JR is incapable of telling the truth, silly, he's an attorney.[/quote]

^^^ thats good stuff there

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[quote=mooby;1012589]I will defer to your opinion on this but in regards to my original post [B]I meant a charge that would be likely to bring down his NFL career. [/B]He might get charged with a crime, but that doesn't mean it would ruin his career. I mean if Vick can get charged with killing dogs and spend 2 years in prison and still resume his career when he gets out, I don't see this resulting in anything that would amount to a lifetime ban from the NFL. Even if he did get convicted of obstruction of justice I still don't see the punishment ruining his career. Only way I see this ruining his career is if he actually did the deed, or assisted in some way that would make his prison sentence 10+ years. That's the point I was trying to get at without spending too much time on the subject.[/quote]

Oh, I agree. Frankly, he can be charged, convicted and reviled by the general populace as worthless scum, but, as long as (1) he is not in jail, and (2) he can ball, his NFL career will be fine.

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[quote=scowan;1012537]Did the Patriots know this about Hernandez and got Tebow to be a TE? Yes, my conspiracy theory was correct.[/quote]

I swear people just can't stop the nonsense about Baby Jesus. So you think he's just going to walk in off the street and start playing TE at the NFL level? When he's never done ever in his past? OK. :saywhat:

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I'm gonna guess he was just joking

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[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22477474/report-aaron-hernandez-uncooperative-and-not-ruled-out-as-a-suspect]Report: Aaron Hernandez 'not ruled out as a suspect' in homicide case - CBSSports.com[/url]

WFXT-TV in Boston reported late Wednesday that Hernandez is "directly tied to the homicide," which is why authorities executed a search warrant on his house. According to WFXT-TV, Hernandez was seen at a bar in Boston with three other men on the night of the Lloyd's death. At some point, the four men left the bar, but only three made it back to Hernandez's residence. Officials are sure that Lloyd left the bar with Hernandez because of a text they found in Lloyd's phone.

Oh boy, not looking good. Cant wait to see how Darth Hoody trys to spin this...or watch him painfully beat back the press refusing to answer questions.

To all the cowboy fans..

[IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/20/e5u8epy8.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1012644]I swear people just can't stop the nonsense about Baby Jesus. So you think he's just going to walk in off the street and start playing TE at the NFL level? When he's never done ever in his past? OK. :saywhat:[/quote]

College Quarterbacks get converted to wide receiver and tight end positions all the time in the NFL. I don't see how Tebow couldn't make the conversion. I think he's still a heck of a football player, just not that GREAT of a quarterback.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1012661]To all the cowboy fans..

[IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/20/e5u8epy8.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

I love this!

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[quote=skinsguy;1012663]College Quarterbacks get converted to wide receiver and tight end positions all the time in the NFL. I don't see how Tebow couldn't make the conversion. I think he's still a heck of a football player, just not that GREAT of a quarterback.[/quote]

Most of the time they make that conversion before they get to the NFL, they don't wait 3-4 years and then try to make that switch, after being so adament that they are a QB. Also, not that great of a QB is a huge understatement. To me for Tebow it is FB or nothing. Nothing to me has shown that he can run routes or catch passes.

Michael Robinson became a FB after being a QB in college. To me he is a FB.

I will also reserve judgement on the "heck of a football player" statement. To me he isn't that either.

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[url=http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2013/6/19/4447146/jaxson-deville-mike-florio-twitter-fight-profootballtalk]Jaxson DeVille, Mike Florio feud on Twitter - Big Cat Country[/url]

Jacksonville's mascot destroying Mike Florio...lol


My favorite tweet:

[B]“@ProFootballTalk: Jaxson Props for finding mild upgrade from gig as Eric the Clown.”

we're both seen as clowns but I can take my suit off![/B]


:laughing-

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FWIW According to a "Legal analyst" at NFL.com, when you strip away the CopSpeak and double talk, Hernandez is THE suspect......
It may serve to reopen the shooting case in Fl as well/
Well Tim.....it's your time

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Could this be the year NE falters?

Without Welker. Possibly without Gronk and Hernandez, Brady will have a whole new cast around him. Their D has not been their strength the last few years and if their Offense is unsettled, maybe, just maybe they will be a sub-10 win team for the first time since 2003. Granted, 2 games each against the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins is not the roughest division schedule, but their other games include the NFC South, AFC North, and the Texans and Broncos.

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[quote=Hog1;1012687]FWIW According to a "Legal analyst" at NFL.com, when you strip away the CopSpeak and double talk, Hernandez is THE suspect......
It may serve to reopen the shooting case in Fl as well/
Well Tim.....it's your time[/quote]

Didn't need a "legal analyst" to tell me that. If the cops get a warrant to search your home/car, you ARE a suspect.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1012690]Could this be the year NE falters?

Without Welker. Possibly without Gronk and Hernandez, Brady will have a whole new cast around him. Their D has not been their strength the last few years and if their Offense is unsettled, maybe, just maybe they will be a sub-10 win team for the first time since 2003. Granted, 2 games each against the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins is not the roughest division schedule, but their other games include the NFC South, AFC North, and the Texans and Broncos.[/quote]

I think this is the year that the Patriots don't finish 1st in their division. Heres a bold prediction. The patriots will only win 1 game in their division going 1-5 against the AFC East.

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What did you have for breakfast Cult, I want some of that!

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[quote=donofriose;1012479]Speaking of baggage Aaron hernidenz may have killed someone. The patriots will have no tight ends.[/quote]

Tim Tebow is their emergency TE. :D

I don't expect Gronk to play this year. Between his horrible arm complications and back surgeries...he's a wreck.

Hernandez' situation is just sad and crazy.

Do they still have Visante Shiancoe?



[quote=skinsguy;1012664]I love this![/quote]

Ebonics rule!



Jags staying in Jacksonville I guess. New $27 million scoreboard coming and $60 million total in stadium renovations.

I've been saying it...Los Angeles will get the Chargers and with the new raw sewage story in Oakland, maybe the Raiders TOO.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1012690]Could this be the year NE falters?

Without Welker. Possibly without Gronk and Hernandez, Brady will have a whole new cast around him. Their D has not been their strength the last few years and if their Offense is unsettled, maybe, just maybe they will be a sub-10 win team for the first time since 2003. Granted, 2 games each against the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins is not the roughest division schedule, but their other games include the NFC South, AFC North, and the Texans and Broncos.[/quote]

Step up Amendola? good luck with that Hoody.

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[quote=Chico23231;1012715]Step up Amendola? good luck with that Hoody.[/quote]

Amendola is just as good as Welker...if he can stay healthy. BIG IF!

He single-handedly embarrassed us last season.

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[quote=skinsguy;1012663]College Quarterbacks get converted to wide receiver and tight end positions all the time in the NFL. I don't see how Tebow couldn't make the conversion. I think he's still a heck of a football player, just not that GREAT of a quarterback.[/quote]

Sure it happens when they're right coming out of college. Tebow is 3 years in, all at QB. Plus, he's not the athlete that Hernandez or Gronkowski is. He should've tried to be a fullback, where he could just slam into people and catch a pass here and there.

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[B][SIZE="4"]Steve Silva ‏@stevesilva

Hearing via law enforcement source that Aaron Hernandez will be arrested in connection with the North Attleborough murder[/SIZE][/B]



[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130620/aaron-hernandez-new-details/?sct=hp_t12_a3&eref=sihp]New England Patriots' Aaron Hernandez likely to be arrested - NFL - SI.com[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1012702]I think this is the year that the Patriots don't finish 1st in their division. Heres a bold prediction. The patriots will only win 1 game in their division going 1-5 against the AFC East.[/quote]

If they were in another division that would be correct. I do not see them only beating the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins only once. None of those teams have a good enough quarterback to beat the Patriots 2 times each. I think the Pats will end up 11-5 or 10-6. This is all of course if Tom Brady stays healthy. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are two quarterbacks who pretty much guarantee you 10 or 11 wins every year.

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Now remember dont rush to judge Hernandez, the last big name NFL'ers to be charged with murder, Ray Ray and OJ, were eventually found innocent. the system works.


I just want to see the ariels shots of a white SUV with Gronk driving, Hernandez in the back seat.

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[quote=Chico23231;1012748]Now remember dont rush to judge Hernandez, the last big name NFL'ers to be charged with murder, Ray Ray and OJ, were eventually found innocent. the system works.[/quote]

:laughing2

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[url=http://abcnews.go.com/US/aaron-hernandez-destroyed-home-security-system-phone-sources/story?id=19445131]Aaron Hernandez Destroyed Home Security System and Phone, Sources Tell ABC News - ABC News[/url]

From the story:

[quote]The investigator, and other law enforcement sources, confirmed that the security system - which included video surveillance - was smashed intentionally.

And a cell phone used by Hernandez was handed over to investigators "in pieces'' by his attorneys, the sources said.

Police also want to know why a team of house cleaners were hired on Monday to scrub Hernandez's mansion, sources told ABC News. [/quote]

Hard not to rush to judgment on that ...

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the home security intentionally destroyed? wow just wow.

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[quote=skinsguy;1012663]College Quarterbacks get converted to wide receiver and tight end positions all the time in the NFL. I don't see how Tebow couldn't make the conversion. I think he's still a heck of a football player, just not that GREAT of a quarterback.[/quote]

Saying Tebow is "just not that great of a quarterback" is like saying that RedskinRat is "just not that great of a Catholic".

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1012762]Saying Tebow is "just not that great of a quarterback" is like saying that RedskinRat is "just not that great of a Catholic".[/quote]

:goodjob:

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1012760][url=http://abcnews.go.com/US/aaron-hernandez-destroyed-home-security-system-phone-sources/story?id=19445131]Aaron Hernandez Destroyed Home Security System and Phone, Sources Tell ABC News - ABC News[/url]

From the story:



Hard not to rush to judgment on that ...[/quote]

But wait! There's more...

[url=http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/blogs/open-mike/os-mb-aaron-hernandez-gators-patriots-20130620,0,192937.post]Patriots Aaron Hernandez questioned in shooting with Gators - OrlandoSentinel.com[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;1012775]But wait! There's more...

[url=http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/blogs/open-mike/os-mb-aaron-hernandez-gators-patriots-20130620,0,192937.post]Patriots Aaron Hernandez questioned in shooting with Gators - OrlandoSentinel.com[/url][/quote]

Sounds like a thug who happens to play football. How soon until the Patriots cut him?

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News keeps getting uglier for Hernandez. Crazy.

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Interestingly a enough my dad spoke with Hernandez for nearly hour one day last summer on Easton's Beach in Newport, RI. Said he looked like a thug but was actually very nice.