[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;1016372]After seeing Dallas lose the backup DE and Anthony Spencer in the course of a few days, it got me thinking, and hoping, that we don't have any Major injuries. Obviously the best scenario is to not have any guys injured, but that never happens in training camp. Everybody loses someone before the season even starts.


I just have a bad feeling a starter will go down during training camp.[/QUOTE]

My belief is we have good depth across the board. I imagine we will lose a few players like nearly every team but there's only 1 player I think is not replaceable and that is Trent Williams.

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It's almost impossible to get out of camp without injuries, get ready for it.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1016373]We should be due for No injuries.[/quote]

....will never happen, not for any team.

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If the Redskins manage an injury free training camp then they won't be ready for a season of football, unless the NFL goes Flag.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1016377]My belief is we have good depth across the board. I imagine we will lose a few players like nearly every team but there's only 1 player I think is not replaceable and that is Trent Williams.[/quote]

Injuries tend to occur to players that are good but barely talked about. Like a Chris Chester, Montgomery, Kerrigan, Bowen or perry Riley.

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[quote=Giantone;1016385]....will never happen, not for any team.[/quote]


yeah i know but still lol

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[quote=Mattyk;1016378]It's almost impossible to get out of camp without injuries, get ready for it.[/quote]

sigh, yet our minds forecast it every year that it won't happen thus the explosion of disappointment when it does happen.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1016437]Injuries tend to occur to players that are good but barely talked about. Like a Chris Chester, Montgomery, Kerrigan, Bowen or perry Riley.[/quote]

Serious or kidding? Pretty sure we had some named/talked about guys who got injured last year. But I don't think any one of the guys you listed would "doom" our season. Maybe a hiccup, but our depth would be sufficient, I think. We don't have another player who comes close to playing LT at TW's ability, so it would be harsh if we lost him.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1016451]Serious or kidding? Pretty sure we had some named/talked about guys who got injured last year. But I don't think any one of the guys you listed would "doom" our season. Maybe a hiccup, but our depth would be sufficient, I think. We don't have another player who comes close to playing LT at TW's ability, so it would be harsh if we lost him.[/quote]

Serious. Kerrigan is probably a "name" because he gets talked about on occasion by other nfl fans. But everyone else isn't a household nfl name

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Other than RGIII of course.

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^ well I was referring to the guys I mentioned but yes RG3, Fletcher, Orakpo are locks along with Trent, Alfred and Pierre as the next tier of names.

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RGIII confirmed in the press conference today that he "will not play this preseason unless it is absolutely necessary."
I agree with this move.

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[quote=Defensewins;1016483]RGIII confirmed in the press conference today that he "will not play this preseason unless it is absolutely necessary."
I agree with this move.[/quote]

Everybody needs some work in the pre season. I think he should play a little bit.

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I don't know if this is somewhere else, or even if it could go somewhere else on the forum.

I found it interesting.

[url=http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2013/02/quarterback_injuries_are_mobile_qbs_like_colin_kaepernick_more_injury_prone.html]Quarterback injuries: Are mobile QBs like Colin Kaepernick more injury-prone than pocket passers? - Slate Magazine[/url]

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Maybe I misunderstood RG3 said he doesn't think he will play pre season Jamie Dukes turned it into he doesn't like Training Camp.

Yeah what's up with all this RG3 said he doesn't want to do TC? I didn't catch him saying that

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[quote=Defensewins;1016483]RGIII confirmed in the press conference today that he "will not play this preseason unless it is absolutely necessary."
I agree with this move.[/quote]

Yeah me too. I'm on the side with letting KC lead the team thru preseason and start week 1.

[QUOTE=Green Monk Machine;1016492]Yeah me too. I'm on the side with letting KC lead the team thru preseason and start week 1.[/QUOTE]

What's the point of just letting KC play week 1 just for RG3 to play week 2. He is going to eventually need to get some live action, if they are really worried about his injury then PUP him and get him back after week 6.

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[quote=redskins5044;1016495]What's the point of just letting KC play week 1 just for RG3 to play week 2. He is going to eventually need to get some live action, if they are really worried about his injury then PUP him and get him back after week 6.[/quote]

I can answer that- its been reported Rob is t goin to play this Peseason, KC is getting the reps with the 1st team instead and week 1 is only just the eagles. We don't need the "big guns" (RG3) for this. Why did we draft KC ? Start him week 1!

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1016489]Maybe I misunderstood RG3 said he doesn't think he will play pre season Jamie Dukes turned it into he doesn't like Training Camp.[/quote]

Ugh here comes the drama, mountains outta molehills...

F Dukes and Irvin for even questioning RG3's commitment given what he went through with the injury and quick recovery. Just pure insanity.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1016499]Ugh here comes the drama, mountains outta molehills...

F Dukes and Irvin for even questioning RG3's commitment given what he went through with the injury and quick recovery. Just pure insanity.[/QUOTE]

What did Griffin say?

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Jamie Dukes basically questioned RG3's commitment. He seems to be using the spin that this is RG3's decision to not play when it seems to be obvious it's a decision that everyone is on board with.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1016504]Jamie Dukes basically questioned RG3's commitment. He seems to be using the spin that this is RG3's decision to not play when it seems to be obvious it's a decision that everyone is on board with.[/QUOTE]

What an idiot

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RG3 hates the preseason and is sending the wrong message to his team according to Dukes.

Did we not spend the entire offseason listening to these talking heads blast the team for playing RG3 when he was hurt, not caring about the player, etc.? Now the team is taking it's time with their star player and trying to take the safer route and it's F them for trying to be smart.

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[quote=Mattyk;1016504]Jamie Dukes basically questioned RG3's commitment. He seems to be using the spin that this is RG3's decision to not play when it seems to be obvious it's a decision that everyone is on board with.[/quote]

Dukes is the Skip Bayless of NFL Network.

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I wouldn't mind if RG3 played a quarter this preseason just to get his feet wet, but the game speed is totally different so if he doesn't play at all I won't mind.

As far as Dukes/Irvin go, I think they're achieving exactly what they want out of their statements, which is more people discussing their thoughts. Just like any other decision made by any other coach, some people are going to like it, and some people are going to hate it, at least publicly to earn a little more attention. Which leads me to a curious question I have:

SS, in your opinion, have you met any media members who have taken a different stance publicly for more attention, but actually side with a more reasonable take in private? I'm sure it could be possible, but it'd be hard to prove, because if they had an outlandish take on a story they'd stick with that viewpoint throughout so they wouldn't appear phony.

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The skins should do the Denver-Manning route with RG3 this preseason

[QUOTE=Green Monk Machine;1016498]I can answer that- its been reported Rob is t goin to play this Peseason, KC is getting the reps with the 1st team instead and week 1 is only just the eagles. We don't need the "big guns" (RG3) for this. Why did we draft KC ? Start him week 1![/QUOTE]

That just seems pointless to me, if they are going to do that, then just rest him and don't play him until the after the bye week. Just seems dumb to say its just the eagles week one so we are going to just rest RG3.

U never can say any game is a for sure win, to say we don't need our best player against Philadelphia is definitely not right. How do u know the eagles won't be any better? We need Griffin 16 times this season. I'm a huge cousins fan too but he's No RG3.

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[quote=redskins5044;1016518]That just seems pointless to me, if they are going to do that, then just rest him and don't play him until the after the bye week. Just seems dumb to say its just the eagles week one so we are going to just rest RG3.[/quote]

I agree, pointless.

Won't happen.

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He didn't bust his ass to sit out against the Eagles. Silly notion.

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[quote=Mattyk;1016507]RG3 hates the preseason and is sending the wrong message to his team according to Dukes.

Did we not spend the entire offseason listening to these talking heads blast the team for playing RG3 when he was hurt, not caring about the player, etc.? Now the team is taking it's time with their star player and trying to take the safer route and it's F them for trying to be smart.[/quote]

So what happens if he gets off to a bad start?

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Tom Brady played in the pre season after he tore up his knee, and he was far more accomplished than RG3. Get him out there, let him get some game speed reps, knock some rust off and get him out.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1016529]Tom Brady played in the pre season after he tore up his knee, and he was far more accomplished than RG3. Get him out there, let him get some game speed reps, knock some rust off and get him out.[/quote]

Brady also tore his ACL in the very first game of the season, giving him an extra 4 months of rehab before the next preseason. Imo, its good that he is getting the extra month to let the knee get stronger. No reason to risk some second or third stringer from another team trying to make a name for himself do something stupid like diving into his knee to make a tackle.

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[quote=Skinzman;1016530]Brady also tore his ACL in the very first game of the season, giving him an extra 4 months of rehab before the next preseason. Imo, its good that he is getting the extra month to let the knee get stronger. No reason to risk some second or third stringer from another team trying to make a name for himself do something stupid like diving into his knee to make a tackle.[/quote]

That's true and a good point.

Could you imagine the uproar if he got injured again in a preseason game?

Given that his expected recovery time was 7-9 months, I just don't see any benefit to playing him in a meaningless game. What does he really have to gain by playing a series or two?

All we should be worried about is him being ready for the Eagles. That's it.

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[quote=Mattyk;1016536]Could you imagine the uproar if he got injured again in a preseason game?

Given that his expected recovery time was 7-9 months, I just don't see any benefit to playing him in a meaningless game. What does he really have to gain by playing a series or two?

All we should be worried about is him being ready for the Eagles. That's it.[/quote]

Right...a series or two is entirely useless. Unless they can get him enough reps to matter then there is no point. The speed of the game isn't going to be a problem for him. He's faster than everyone anyways. Plus we'll for sure not be running our eal offense so there isn't a good argument to be made to play him.

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[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/24/rg3-redskins-camp-mike-shanahan/]CAMPBELL: RG3 gets Redskins camp off to harmonious start by buying into Mike Shanahan's plan - Washington Times[/url]

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All I know is I am so ready for a good QB controversy. It's not the Skins without one.

Light'em up Captain Kirk!!!

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On a stroll down memory lane, isn't this what the Heath Shuler/Gus Frerotte draft was SUPPOSED to be, a sure fire #1 talent, and a 2nd string worthy of being first. It's like the Skins finally came out of the qb dive that was started in that draft many many year ago.

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[quote=FRPLG;1016538]Right...a series or two is entirely useless. Unless they can get him enough reps to matter then there is no point. [B]The speed of the game isn't going to be a problem for him. He's faster than everyone anyways.[/B] Plus we'll for sure not be running our real offense so there isn't a good argument to be made to play him.[/quote]

I absolutely believe the bolded part is true. Everything about Griffin's play seems like he is seeing the field in slow motion. That's one reason I don't believe the talk about read progressions. Maybe it's true, and obviously every qb needs to work on that part of the game all the time, but my gut feeling is that Griffin scans the field far better than even most of his supporters give him credit for.