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IrMitchell 08-25-2013 07:06 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
[quote=Bushead;1020445]Where are you getting the idea that Amerson didn't play well? He had the one long pass where in did pass interference and a penalty, but i saw a lot of athletic ability and wonderful closing ability on Wide Receivers. He seems to really want to come up and lay a hit.

[B]I thought Wilson was on the bubble with Crawford[/B], but he stays now. This Pat White stuff needs to stop. Hankerson has too much upside to cut him and keep Stallworth instead.[/quote]
Well where would you get that idea?

Josh Wilson is far and away our best corner. He's the only stability we have back there.

Also, Amerson has been bad. No reason to sugar coat it, he looks like a deer in headlights in coverage.

Skinzman 08-25-2013 07:35 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
[quote=IrMitchell;1020452]Well where would you get that idea?

Josh Wilson is far and away our best corner. He's the only stability we have back there.

Also, Amerson has been bad. No reason to sugar coat it, he looks like a deer in headlights in coverage.[/quote]

Did you only watch one play all preseason? The pass interference against the Bills. As for Wilson, he cant cover one on one. He is good when he has safety help over the top because he understands positioning (which is why he was pretty bad all last year, because we had no one who could give help over the top) but other than that, he is below average. Amerson can already cover one on one as good as Wilson.

DynamiteRave 08-25-2013 07:46 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
[quote=IrMitchell;1020452]Well where would you get that idea?

Josh Wilson is far and away our best corner. He's the only stability we have back there.

Also, Amerson has been bad. No reason to sugar coat it, he looks like a deer in headlights in coverage.[/quote]

If Josh Wilson is our [B]best[/B] corner, I fear for the secondary this season.

I don't know if I'd label Amerson as BAD. Inconsistent, yes, but eh, he's a rookie.

JoeRedskin 08-25-2013 08:02 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
Who's better than Wilson? Hall? At times. At times, he is much worse than Wilson. Biggers? Okay, not seeing it, but, if not Wilson or Hall, he is next man up. Minnifield? Can we see him a regular season game first.

I mean, Wilson is an average corner. Unfortunately, an average corner is probably our best bet.

SmootSmack 08-25-2013 08:28 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
We're really bashing David Amerson already? Amazing

And yeah Josh Wilson was on the bubble until yesterday. If a team asks you to take a pay cut to stay then you're probably not in their long term plans

budw38 08-25-2013 08:40 PM

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I thought Amerson has looked pretty good . He is a rookie ( left college early ) , and has not had consistent play at the S position . If we can keep getting pressure on the qb , and have some stability at S , I think we will be ok . Of course having an all-pro at S would help .

Lotus 08-25-2013 08:47 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1020459]Who's better than Wilson? Hall? At times. At times, he is much worse than Wilson. [B]Biggers? Okay, not seeing it[/B], but, if not Wilson or Hall, he is next man up. Minnifield? Can we see him a regular season game first.

I mean, Wilson is an average corner. Unfortunately, an average corner is probably our best bet.[/quote]

Biggers has me worried. What I've seen have either been poor or wtf? plays.

DynamiteRave 08-25-2013 08:57 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1020459]Who's better than Wilson? Hall? At times. At times, he is much worse than Wilson. Biggers? Okay, not seeing it, but, if not Wilson or Hall, he is next man up. Minnifield? Can we see him a regular season game first.

I mean, Wilson is an average corner. Unfortunately, an average corner is probably our best bet.[/quote]

I trust Hall in man coverage more than I do Wilson. I'd trust Wilson more on the dime receiver, as I don't think he has the speed to keep up with a slot guy. But on #1s and #2s, he makes me nervous. Dude is real iffy 1 on 1. Just my opinion.

Wilson seems to do better in zone.

CRedskinsRule 08-25-2013 09:05 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
Well poop, I was really feeling good about our team, now you guys have me seeing Desean and Cruz and Bryant just running up and down the field uncovered.


Next you'll be saying that we will only average 20 points a game on offense.

DynamiteRave 08-25-2013 09:07 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1020468]Well poop, I was really feeling good about our team, now you guys have me seeing Desean and Cruz and Bryant just running up and down the field uncovered.


Next you'll be saying that we will only average 20 points a game on offense.[/quote]

lol I hope it won't be that bad. Our front 4 seems to put on enough pressure on the QB that it should take some heat off of our secondary.

CultBrennan59 08-25-2013 09:16 PM

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So I'd imagine we'll start cutting people tomorrow, even though Tuesday is the final day.

I don't expect any surprises. One player I'm curious about is Nick Barnett. I saw him in one play last game. It also made me think about Quan Sturdivant. I'd like to see him get some playing time because I remember he had some big potential coming out of college.

SFREDSKIN 08-25-2013 09:45 PM

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I'm not worried about our CB's, the addition of Biggers, Amerson and Minnifield make them much better. I feel Minniefield will surprise everyone, Amerson will get better as the season progresses.

T.O.Killa 08-25-2013 09:58 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
I am not sure why people keep saying how bad LeRibeus is playing. I watched every play the last two games and thought he has done well. What plays are we talking about, because I heard all the Leribeus bashing here and went and looked at the games and could not see the terrible play. I don't think he gets cut. I don't think Wilson gets cut either, especially with Crawford.

SirLK26 08-25-2013 11:14 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
[quote=Bushead;1020445]Where are you getting the idea that Amerson didn't play well? He had the one long pass where in did pass interference and a penalty, but i saw a lot of athletic ability and wonderful closing ability on Wide Receivers. He seems to really want to come up and lay a hit.

I thought Wilson was on the bubble with Crawford, but he stays now. This Pat White stuff needs to stop. Hankerson has too much upside to cut him and keep Stallworth instead.[/quote]

I agree with every point you make. Good post. :food-smil

Chico23231 08-25-2013 11:29 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
Wtf? How can people not be excited about the play of amerson and chase minny? If both guys stay healthy they will show the talent and the physicality to be starters next year. The cornerback position is not a weakness on this team. More worried about safety and ilb depth on the d.

SFREDSKIN 08-25-2013 11:36 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
[quote=Chico23231;1020481]Wtf? How can people not be excited about the play of amerson and chase minny? If both guys stay healthy they will show the talent and the physicality to be starters next year. The cornerback position is not a weakness on this team. More worried about safety and ilb depth on the d.[/quote]

Tanard Jackson is the wild card at S, something tells me he will be on the roster after he gets reinstated. Merriweather, Jackson, Doughty and Rambo doesn't sound bad. Jackson could be very valuable in the second half of the season.

Green Monk Machine 08-25-2013 11:42 PM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
Amerson definetly is playing like an average rookie, not horrible, but yes bad but shows potential in time.
Wilson bashing I don't support. Not a flashy guy but moderately dependable and still needed. He is in the final yer of contract and shouldn't be resign.
Biggers hasn't shown why we thought he would be a gem, but perhaps can hit his stride during the season.
Some of you guys crack me up in good ways, have good POV's, others are overlooking that the run defense should still be solid w/ an increase pass rush, and even everything said the secondary may look similar but we have to hope Merriweather returns and the big plays don't happen. Which I think we will limit.
For the LeRibeus supporters or disbelievers he hasnt performed in preseason...Really? Really!!
I like our TE situation. Fred is back. We will bring Reed along but yeah Paul may not be who we need other than on special teams. Paulsen will pick up slack.

Lastl, This team has not been the most talented in the NFCE this millennium, but they have a good locker room and I think they play their asses off.
HTTR

FRPLG 08-26-2013 12:35 AM

Re: Final Cuts Looming - any surprises on the horizon
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;1020470]So I'd imagine we'll start cutting people tomorrow, even though Tuesday is the final day.

I don't expect any surprises. One player I'm curious about is Nick Barnett. I saw him in one play last game. It also made me think about Quan Sturdivant. I'd like to see him get some playing time because I remember he had some big potential coming out of college.[/quote]

Unless Barnett just isn't healthy he's got a spot. It's crazy thin behind 59 and he was brought in to back London up.


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