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We will find a way to beat Oakland, Turn RGIII loose next week have him hold on that ball

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0-16 lmao... You guys are ridiculous

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[quote=SouperMeister;1027889]Games are one or lost on 2-3 plays per game. Robinson not finishing the play on the TD, and RG3 not being able to slide without coughing the ball up were those plays today.[/quote]

I'd argue Robinsons play was a TD and still do. The ball was caught cleanly, tucked cleanly (per video), WR took two steps after catching it (left foot, then right foot), and the ball was in control as it was taken over the goal line. The ball only came loose after the player went to the ground. In any other play mid field the ground can't cause a fumble.

Refs had the call wrong and the nit wit head ref tries to defend a bad call. I really hope that it's shown when the ball was moving in his hands cause I didn't see it until after the player hit the ground.

My second argument is a RB can run the ball and dive for the goal line and the ball come out of his hands after he hits the ground and it's considered a score. Our WR took two steps prior to entering the end zone, he is now a runner and the ball went over the goal line. score. Different story if WR caught the ball in the air and came down in the end zone and bobbled the ball after hitting the ground however I'd argue he was down by contact in the end zone. TD.

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The Rams are loving us right now. They have a decent chance at Clowney.

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[quote=Bucket;1027915]0-16 lmao... You guys are ridiculous[/quote]


This team is ridiculous right now.

0-16 is not likely, but less than four wins is pretty realistic with the product I have seen on display since the season started.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1027910]Orakpo hasn't been very effective this year for us at all. He can't cover or tackle apparently. Would it be worth it to trade him for a corner or safety that isn't terrible?[/quote]

Probably, he can't cover TE's all that well, and he's not staying in his lane for the runs. All he wants to do or is capable of doing is rushing the QB which he really is not getting done.

Haslett better figure this thing out or its going to be a looooooong season.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1027910]Orakpo hasn't been very effective this year for us at all. He can't cover or tackle apparently. Would it be worth it to trade him for a corner or safety that isn't terrible?[/quote]

Who's going to give us anything for him? He's value is very low.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1027910]Orakpo hasn't been very effective this year for us at all. He can't cover or tackle apparently. Would it be worth it to trade him for a corner or safety that isn't terrible?[/quote]

I haven't been impressed with him or Kerrigan.

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Ok, we're not going 0-16. That I can guarantee. But we are looking awful. It shows you the NFL has adjusted to our offense from last year. Today RG3 looked like what he used to last year in terms of athletically. Decision making wise, he looks stupid. Fumbling on a slide because he can't slide and throwing a pick running out of bounds. Those are plays made by Sanchez.

I also see the injury bug is starting to come back. Jordan Reed--the closest thing to a bright spot just got hurt. Rambo supposedly got hurt but I didn't see what happened. Orakpo got hurt but came back in.

Ill finish talking about this pile of crap later. I got better things to do.

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[quote=donofriose;1027921]I haven't been impressed with him or Kerrigan.[/quote]

If I'm not mistaken most if not all the sacks have come from Kerrigan. Oh and one TD after a bat down.

[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1027908]I don't think we will go 0-16 because of the sheer parity of the league. Considering that only two teams in Pro Football History have ever had a winless season (Bucs and Lions), i could see winning only 1, or maybe 2 games, if it continues to be this bad. But i don't think we will go winless.[/QUOTE]

Either do i for that exact reason. We will probably beat denver and than lose to minn. lol. My point was that based on what im seeing the possibility is there. Im shocked because for once i thought my excitement in the offseason was not kool aid induced. I thought that we were the same team but getting back rak and davis would be huge boosts. The big question mark was obviously Griff n i was very secure in the fact i had seen cousins play and win in big spots last year.
Now im wondering where a w is coming from? Wtf?

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1027912]Team has no heart. Bunch of gutless warm bodies out there.

Seems like a bunch of guys out there working. Like, literally doing a job because that's what they're paid to do. Rarely does it look like they're enjoying it or that they're motivated; they just look like they showed up because they had no other choice.

There are players who exceptions to this, of course. But these dudes are just f'ing sloppy. Penalties, drops, sloppy ass tackling; you're losing and you're laughing on the sidelines? Come on, man.[/QUOTE]

Exactly the kind of crap MS was supposed to clean up

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sorry but 98 sucks, he has been zero since week 1

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Maybe this is just the anger making me stupid, but I kind of want Chucky.

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[quote=SBXVII;1027923]If I'm not mistaken most if not all the sacks have come from Kerrigan. Oh and one TD after a bat down.[/quote]

Kerrigan has had three sacks. Two of them in one quarter of the same game. Today both him and orakpo didn't get to the QB at all. I think they both have been overrated and don't consitently get any pressure unless the skins bring extra blitzers to free then up.

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[quote]It was a top 10 defense when we ran a 4-3. I've never been a fan of the 3-4. Orakpo covering the TE on the 2nd TD would never be the case if we still ran a 4-3.[/quote]


This comment was made in the game thread. You do realize that Orakpo was a OLB in the 4-3 when he first was drafted. There is a good chance he would have been in coverage on a 4-3 defense just as he would be in a 3-4.

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It's funny how people only remember the bad.

If that play is called a TD.. This whole forum board is speaking another tune.

[QUOTE=Bucket;1027915]0-16 lmao... You guys are ridiculous[/QUOTE]

Its just the fact that we are 0-3 and our schedule is very difficult. The early bye kind of stinks too.
The only reason 0-16 is laughable is because it is as rare as a triple crown but not because we have proven to be good enough to beat a single team we have left on the schedule.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1027929]This comment was made in the game thread. You do realize that Orakpo was a OLB in the 4-3 when he first was drafted. There is a good chance he would have been in coverage on a 4-3 defense just as he would be in a 3-4.[/quote]

He MIGHT have been, but wouldn't be now. I think he would be a much more successful DE.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1027907]Trade value for who? Fred? Trade him now then.[/quote]

LOL. He was a free agent during the off-season. If nobody wanted him then, I seriously doubt they want him now.

[QUOTE=Bucket;1027930]It's funny how people only remember the bad.

If that play is called a TD.. This whole forum board is speaking another tune.[/QUOTE]

I thought he had his hands under it, but he caught that standing up. No reason he shouldnt finish that play. So yes you are correct, if we could have made a winning play instead of a losing one this board would be happy.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1027933]LOL. He was a free agent during the off-season. If nobody wanted him then, I seriously doubt they want him now.[/quote]

That was kind of my point. I said earlier let him go at the end of the year. He seems to hang around based on potential. Let Reed keep the position for the rest of the year and see what he can do.

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[quote=punch it in;1027883]Is that on MS in your opinion? I mean he is either not reaching them or they are unreachable - but that would fall on hom too - this is his team.[/quote]

Absolutely in the sense he's the HC and it falls on him. Buck stops with him. And Kyle has to go. Love him to death. Tremendous person. Good friend, don't want him here anymore

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Well.....I read a stat that suggested teams going 0-3 had like a 3% chance of making the playoffs.
Sooo, we have that working for us......

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[quote=Bucket;1027930]It's funny how people only remember the bad.

If that play is called a TD.. This whole forum board is speaking another tune.[/quote]


But it wasn't.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1027936]Absolutely in the sense he's the HC and it falls on him. Buck stops with him. And Kyle has to go. Love him to death. Tremendous person. Good friend, don't want him here anymore[/QUOTE]

What is it about his playcalling that, as a redskins fan, is bothering you?

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[quote=Hog1;1027937]Well.....I read a stat that suggested teams going 0-3 had like a 3% chance of making the playoffs.
Sooo, we have that working for us......[/quote]

In all seriousness, we were 3-6 last year, and look at where we ended up. Even IF we end up 0-4 going into the bye, I just won't be able to give up on this team until we have 8 losses.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1027936]Absolutely in the sense he's the HC and it falls on him. Buck stops with him. And Kyle has to go. Love him to death. Tremendous person. Good friend, don't want him here anymore[/quote]

You're friends with Kyle shanahan?

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[quote=punch it in;1027939]What is it about his playcalling that, as a redskins fan, is bothering you?[/quote]


Probably the fact that he is calling the plays.

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[quote=punch it in;1027931]Its just the fact that we are 0-3 and our schedule is very difficult. The early bye kind of stinks too.
The only reason 0-16 is laughable is because it is as rare as a triple crown but not because we have proven to be good enough to beat a single team we have left on the schedule.[/quote]

I think 6-10 is realistic.

Oh man. I forgot we play Denver. The Broncos are going to destroy us in Denver. I may not tune into that one.

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It feels like Kyle is being stubborn about the offense. Trying to force a square peg into a round hole. Our offense was working well today when they went with the RO, but it was dead as hell prior to that. Not sure what the issue is but they simply haven't gotten on the same page whether it's due to egos or whatnot.

[QUOTE=Skinsfanatic;1027940]In all seriousness, we were 3-6 last year, and look at where we ended up. Even IF we end up 0-4 going into the bye, I just won't be able to give up on this team until we have 8 losses.[/QUOTE]

Last years schedule was nothing like this one imo. I know things change as the season goes on and who knows maybe matt ryan, romo, peyton, ap - are out for those games. Shit happens. But from start to finish i never remember looking at the schedule for the year with such wide eyes

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[quote=punch it in;1027945]Last years schedule was nothing like this one imo. I know things change as the season goes on and who knows maybe matt ryan, romo, peyton, ap - are out for those games. Shit happens. But from start to finish i never remember looking at the schedule for the year with such wide eyes[/quote]

Right, but the team we were in the early goings of the playoff game against Seattle could challenge just about anyone. The question is, can we get back to that?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1027944]It feels like Kyle is being stubborn about the offense. Trying to force a square peg into a round whole. Our offense was working well today when they went with the RO, but it was dead as hell prior to that. Not sure what the issue is but they simply haven't gotten on the same page whether it's due to egos or whatnot.[/quote]

Personally I feel the stubbornness comes from calling for a deep bomb when we are in 3rd and short or continue to call that stupid pitch run, even though that by the time Morris gets back to the LOS, there's a wall of defenders ready to meet him b/c they mowed down our o-line.

[QUOTE=punch it in;1027945]Last years schedule was nothing like this one imo. I know things change as the season goes on and who knows maybe matt ryan, romo, peyton, ap - are out for those games. Shit happens. But from start to finish i never remember looking at the schedule for the year with such wide eyes[/QUOTE]

That's the NFL every year the schedule is going to be tough.

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Wtf happened to our oline?

Team looks like they don't care, why should we

[QUOTE=mbedner3420;1027941]You're friends with Kyle shanahan?[/QUOTE]

He just sleeps with him for money, trick would be more accurate.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1027936]Absolutely in the sense he's the HC and it falls on him. Buck stops with him. And Kyle has to go. Love him to death. Tremendous person. Good friend, don't want him here anymore[/quote]

Not sure if the offense has grown stale or the league knows how to play them or what. I am not a fan of not being able to go "hurry-up" as a change of pace, why the spread offense is not used more when it is so effective on the first two downs. Also, can not seem to understand why they want to pass so much out of the pistol, with the lines inability to pass protect, why would you want to pass 3 to 4 yrds from the line of scrimmage, that was a big problem against the Packers. Kyle and/or the script needs to go away. Has anyone else noticed that after the scripted plays are done, then and only then can they move the ball?

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1027913]I still think Rak could be so much more effective as a 4-3 end.[/quote]

Ageed. Put Kerrigan on the other end and move current DE's to DT.

[QUOTE=Skinsfanatic;1027946]Right, but the team we were in the early goings of the playoff game against Seattle could challenge just about anyone. The question is, can we get back to that?[/QUOTE]

You're absolutely rite about that. Thats why i am having such a tough time digesting this.
On another optimistic note, the giants are crap, the eagles are one game up on us and we play them again, and the cowboys are two games up on us and we play them twice.