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the only team in the NFL that has scored 20 points in every game this yr besides Denver........ Buffalo.. Go figure

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1033626]y the saints logo goat?[/quote]

Always been my fav 2nd team. And, I wish we would sort of model our offense after there's, with the added awesomeness of a mobile QB.

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gotcha

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[quote=The Goat;1033628]Always been my fav 2nd team. And, I wish we would sort of model our offense after there's, with the added awesomeness of a mobile QB.[/quote]

strange with all your connections with the Mile High City you go with the Saints?

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[quote=The Goat;1033622]You's a real dick sometimes. I have tons of fam/friends Denver fans, but I think the one you're poking at is my (elderly) uncle David who:

a) as an absurdly successful CFO for several oil companies has hobnobbed with Bronco execs

b) says that he's personally overheard Elway and others talk negatively about Shanny for a long, long time

c) and has heart disease, I heard he's not doing well and will see him in two weeks in Denver.

I'll be sure to pass along that everything he's heard/thought is wrong because some guy on a blog says Mike is a great guy...[/quote]

Myself, Matty, and the rest of the mods are the best friends you have here. Remember that. Support for you is few and far between to stay a member of this board.

Can't you take a joke? You're always talking your Denver background, or your diehard Bears fan/friend from Chicago. Or the Saints one from New Orleans

a) Well la di ****ing da

b) Tell him to read this [url=http://m.clevescene.com/cleveland/manginis-mess-sent-to-save-the-cleveland-browns-eric-mangini-instead-put-on-a-clinic-on-how-to-drive-a-teams-morale-into-the-ground/Content?oid=3625467&showFullText=true]Mangini's Mess | Features | Cleveland Scene[/url]

[quote]They were being told in the peaceful valley of Shanahan: the heaven to Mangini's hell. Mike Shanahan knew how to run a team. That meant he knew how to treat the men on it. Being a head football coach is not about being a strategic genius.

Every coach in the NFL knows football strategy. It's about leading a group of grown men toward a tangible goal and treating them with the respect their sacrifice deserves. That's how you get them to play well. Many players, upon arriving in Denver, were flabbergasted by how well Shanahan treated them.

—You don't know how good we got it here, man.

I always heard it, but I never understood it. Coach Shanahan was all I really knew. He was the model of an NFL coach in my mind.[/quote]

c) Sorry to hear that but that's pretty low of you to exploit that to make it seem like I'm some heartless person

Ask him if he knows any good message boards you can join where people don't threaten to leave the site if you're not banned, or the justification for keeping you from those that say you should stay is "every village needs an idiot"

Like I said, Matty and the mods are the best friends you have here because we believe in allowing different opinions (though I know you don't believe that).

But jeez man, take a ****ing joke

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I'd like to teach the world to sing..
sing with me.....
perfect harmony

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This thread needs some caring and sharing.

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I don't know what to take serious and what to blow off, to be completely honest. Like saying board members have threatened to leave unless I'm banned? That's pathetic. A pathetic thing to ask IMO. The board has a (great) block feature that I've used regularly, but I've never thought of asking for those WPers to be banned. Serious? That's for real? I'm neither the biggest critic of the coach nor the most incendiary person around here.

I read the whole exert, for two blurbs about Shanny. For what? Some have liked him. Some haven't. Why is the team undisciplined, unprepared and not playing at it's potential? That's the bottom line. To suggest it's a coaching issue, right at the top, doesn't seem like such a radical or different opinion.

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Coaching is a issue thats obvious

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1033640]Coaching is a issue thats obvious[/quote]

But not the only one.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1033618]Didn't the Lions have a top 5 pick in the draft last year? Is that what we are constituting as a rebound? SMH[/quote]

Sad isn't it?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1033641]But not the only one.[/quote]

agree

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What if the Rams get Clowney? All hell will break loose. lol.

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[quote=mredskins;1033624][B]I have been wondering where the oil comments ahve been coming from[/B]. Now I know :laughing2[/quote]
WHEW!....That's good to know. I thought it may have been a reference to a shower curtain party in the lockup..
Boy, is my face red.........

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9840408/irving-fryar-mother-allene-mcghee-indicted-mortgage-scam]Irving Fryar, mother Allene McGhee indicted in mortgage scam - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1033366][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/10/15/rgiii-wont-let-anyone-else-tell-him-how-to-play-qb/]RGIII won’t let anyone else tell him how to play QB[/url]

I agree with him.[/quote]Good question in the article: "He’s focusing on not letting anybody else tell him how to play this game? Like who, praytell?"

I thought Matty or SS or one of the other more knowledgeable* posters had said that least season RG3 didn't like to run the ball. I'm guessing RG3 doesn't like the read option?

Hey Robert! Did you like being Rookie of the Year last season? How are things working out now without running the RO once in awhile? As I recall you didn't get hurt in the read-option last season...






*more knowledgeable than me.

As someone who, in all my years on the WP, has used the block feature on only one person and only during the season when the person in question was being particularly inane and obtuse, I can assure you the feature is not particularly effective when someone consistently spouts idiotic BS at a profligate rate. In such a case, the individual's verbal diarrhea spreads through the thread and infects even the most intelligent comments with its stank.

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Lets be real here. If Goat wasn't on this site, it would be a lot more dull and a lot less humor.

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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/r1Y8snf.gif[/IMG]

Fail.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1033658]As someone who, in all my years on the WP, has used the block feature on only one person and only during the season when the person in question was being particularly inane and [B]obtuse[/B], I can assure you the feature is not particularly effective when someone consistently spouts idiotic BS at a profligate rate. In such a case, the individual's verbal diarrhea spreads through the thread and infects even the most intelligent comments with its stank.[/quote]


[IMG]http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/399/Stop_being_obtuse_copy.png[/IMG]

Oh, Shawshank Redemption!

Okay back to football.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1033679]Lets be real here. If Goat wasn't on this site, it would be a lot more dull and a lot less humor.[/quote]
How would anybody know? He's largely been....Shunned!
Mere blocking wasn't gettin' it done.......

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1033679]Lets be real here. If Goat wasn't on this site, it would be a lot more dull and a lot less humor.[/quote]

i disagree.

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1033686]i disagree.[/QUOTE]

I agree with your disagreement.

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Eh, Agree to disagree.

Anyway Sherman just got whacked by Fitzgerald.

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Russel Wilson keeps winning.

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Wilson might end up being best of his class. He already has the most poise.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1033683][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/r1Y8snf.gif[/IMG]

Fail.[/quote]

That's hilarious

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[quote=The Goat;1033696]Wilson might end up being best of his class. He already has the most poise.[/quote]

He's real close to being one of the top qb's in the league. He's by no means there yet, but it's only a matter of time with that kid. He threw some ridiculous passes last night.

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[quote=Chico23231;1033695]Russel Wilson keeps winning.[/quote]


yeah its just him out there by himself , poor guy has no help at all

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[quote=Chico23231;1033695]Russel Wilson keeps winning.[/quote]



18/29, 62% completion rate, 235 yards, ran for 29 yards and lost 2 fumbles. The only positive part of his stat line was the 3 TD passes.

This season, 4 games with less than 210 yards passing, has been under 50% completion twice this season. He's also lost 5 of his 8 fumbles.

They're not winning because of him. His stats are mediocre. He's just along for the ride.

Their success is all Lynch and the defense...mainly the defense.

When Griffin irons out his accuracy issue, which has never been an issue for him before so everything points to it being temporary, he'll blow Wilson out of the water stat-wise and talent-wise.


Give Robert that defense and we'd rival the 1991 Redskins in dominance.



I like Wilson as a person off the field, classy kid when he's speaking honestly and not tossing out the tired football cliches in press conferences. However, he's really, REALLY over-hyped. ESPN has a lot to do with that. They can turn a mediocre QB like Tebow or average one like Wilson into a celebrity just by talking about him every 5 minutes. Colin Kaepernick is in the same spot, and ironically, his team wins the same way, running and defense. He's also just along for the ride.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1033745]18/29, 62% completion rate, 235 yards, ran for 29 yards and lost 2 fumbles. [B][SIZE="3"]The only positive part of his stat line was the 3 TD passes.[/SIZE][/B]

This season, 4 games with less than 210 yards passing, has been under 50% completion twice this season. He's also lost 5 of his 8 fumbles.

They're not winning because of him. His stats are mediocre. He's just along for the ride.

Their success is all Lynch and the defense...mainly the defense.

When Griffin irons out his accuracy issue, which has never been an issue for him before so everything points to it being temporary, he'll blow Wilson out of the water stat-wise and talent-wise.


Give Robert that defense and we'd rival the 1991 Redskins in dominance.



I like Wilson as a person off the field, classy kid when he's speaking honestly and not tossing out the tired football cliches in press conferences. However, he's really, REALLY over-hyped. ESPN has a lot to do with that. They can turn a mediocre QB like Tebow or average one like Wilson into a celebrity just by talking about him every 5 minutes. Colin Kaepernick is in the same spot, and ironically, his team wins the same way, running and defense. He's also just along for the ride.[/quote]

The only positive part is 3 td passes,is that all? Why some people dont want to give Wilson credit is beyond me.Its like if you give Wilson credit your somehow cutting down RG3.And then you want to bring up his fumbling when RG3 leads the league in fumbles? Unreal

If RG3 had the exact same stat line Wilson did in the game against Dallas and we beat Dallas 34-22 and someone came on the forum and said the only positive stat he had was 3 td passes what do you think the reaction would be? I bet youd be one of the first people to call that person an idiot

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[quote=Monkeydad;1033745]18/29, 62% completion rate, 235 yards, ran for 29 yards and lost 2 fumbles. The only positive part of his stat line was the 3 TD passes.

This season, 4 games with less than 210 yards passing, has been under 50% completion twice this season. He's also lost 5 of his 8 fumbles.

They're not winning because of him. His stats are mediocre. He's just along for the ride.

Their success is all Lynch and the defense...mainly the defense.

When Griffin irons out his accuracy issue, which has never been an issue for him before so everything points to it being temporary, he'll blow Wilson out of the water stat-wise and talent-wise.


Give Robert that defense and we'd rival the 1991 Redskins in dominance.



I like Wilson as a person off the field, classy kid when he's speaking honestly and not tossing out the tired football cliches in press conferences. However, he's really, REALLY over-hyped. ESPN has a lot to do with that. They can turn a mediocre QB like Tebow or average one like Wilson into a celebrity just by talking about him every 5 minutes. Colin Kaepernick is in the same spot, and ironically, his team wins the same way, running and defense. He's also just along for the ride.[/quote]



Jesus Christ finally someone that agres with me!!

Thank u

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Everyone (media included) is putting Wilson in the HOF already and the dudes numbers are just avg.. Yeah he wins games but so does Joe Flacco... And they both put up similar numbers.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1033759]The only positive part is 3 td passes,is that all? Why some people dont want to give Wilson credit is beyond me.Its like if you give Wilson credit your somehow cutting down RG3.And then you want to bring up his fumbling when RG3 leads the league in fumbles? Unreal

If RG3 had the exact same stat line Wilson did in the game against Dallas and we beat Dallas 34-22 and someone came on the forum and said the only positive stat he had was 3 td passes what do you think the reaction would be? I bet youd be one of the first people to call that person an idiot[/quote]

No, completing barely half of his passes and two turnovers wouldn't impress me by RGIII or anyone.

Griff's been throwing for 300 yards weekly this season despite his accuracy issues, so if he came out with a 123, 142 or even a 235-yard night, they'd all be letdowns.

Here's the difference between the two QBs: Griffin is the leader of this offense. Everything runs through him and depends on him. Wilson is more of, to use the overused term, a game manager.

Take a look at these game performances and tell be Wilson is the key to their offensive success:


@ 25 /33 320 yds 75.8%
CAR

[B] vs 8 /19 142 yds 42.1%
SF [/B]

vs 14 /21 202 yds 66.7%
JAC

[B] @ 12 /23 123 yds 52.2%[/B]
[B]HOU

@ 15 /31 210 yds 48.4%[/B]
IND

vs 23 /31 257 yds 74.2%
TEN

[B] @ 18 /29 235 yds 62.1%
ARI[/B]


He seems to be a Jay Cutler-like QB who will have a good game or a bad game, nothing in between. His team is carrying him. He's really only had 2 solid games passing the ball this year. When your QB can pass below 50% and for less than 150 yards almost every other game and you're still winning, you know you have a solid team around that QB.



His defense scores a lot and they usually play with the lead, so they can run the ball all game long. If he had to try to come back every week with his arm, I don't think he'd have as much success.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1033745]18/29, 62% completion rate, 235 yards, ran for 29 yards and lost 2 fumbles. The only positive part of his stat line was the 3 TD passes.

This season, 4 games with less than 210 yards passing, has been under 50% completion twice this season. He's also lost 5 of his 8 fumbles.

They're not winning because of him. His stats are mediocre. He's just along for the ride.

Their success is all Lynch and the defense...mainly the defense.

When Griffin irons out his accuracy issue, which has never been an issue for him before so everything points to it being temporary, he'll blow Wilson out of the water stat-wise and talent-wise.


[B]Give Robert that defense and we'd rival the 1991 Redskins in dominance[/B].



I like Wilson as a person off the field, classy kid when he's speaking honestly and not tossing out the tired football cliches in press conferences. However, he's really, REALLY over-hyped. ESPN has a lot to do with that. They can turn a mediocre QB like Tebow or average one like Wilson into a celebrity just by talking about him every 5 minutes. Colin Kaepernick is in the same spot, and ironically, his team wins the same way, running and defense. He's also just along for the ride.[/quote]

Are you out of your mind? You're talking about one of the best teams in NFL history, with a few HOF'ers and borderline HOF players.

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Put Griffin on Seattle and they r even better than they r today because of his great athleticism. Wilson never has to win a game for Seattle and when he did (vs Indy) late in the game he threw a INT. He's a good QB and I like him but he's not a guy that can carry a team , just wait until Lynch is gone and everyone will see.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1033768]Are you out of your mind? You're talking about one of the best teams in NFL history, with a few HOF'ers and borderline HOF players.[/quote]

That was the BEST team of all time.

If Robert had the #1-ranked defense in the league...paired with the offense we're capable of from last year, we'd dominate.

Has any team ever had the #1 offense AND defense at the same time? Maybe the '91 Skins?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1033769]Put Griffin on Seattle and they r even better than they r today because of his great athleticism. Wilson never has to win a game for Seattle and when he did (vs Indy) late in the game he threw a INT. He's a good QB and I like him but he's not a guy that can carry a team , just wait until Lynch is gone and everyone will see.[/quote]



Exactly, 100% correct.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1033745]18/29, 62% completion rate, 235 yards, ran for 29 yards and lost 2 fumbles. The only positive part of his stat line was the 3 TD passes.

This season, 4 games with less than 210 yards passing, has been under 50% completion twice this season. He's also lost 5 of his 8 fumbles.

They're not winning because of him. His stats are mediocre. He's just along for the ride.

Their success is all Lynch and the defense...mainly the defense.

When Griffin irons out his accuracy issue, which has never been an issue for him before so everything points to it being temporary, he'll blow Wilson out of the water stat-wise and talent-wise.


Give Robert that defense and we'd rival the 1991 Redskins in dominance.



I like Wilson as a person off the field, classy kid when he's speaking honestly and not tossing out the tired football cliches in press conferences. However, he's really, REALLY over-hyped. ESPN has a lot to do with that. They can turn a mediocre QB like Tebow or average one like Wilson into a celebrity just by talking about him every 5 minutes. Colin Kaepernick is in the same spot, and ironically, his team wins the same way, running and defense. He's also just along for the ride.[/quote]

Why is it that everytime Wilson is mentioned around here it's..."well RG3 can do what he does and do it better!".. it's so annoying.

I assume that most of you have high football IQ's and can watch a game w/out your RG3 glasses on...lol. What makes Wilson (and RG3) unique is that they can impact the game w/out having Aaron Rogers stats. Griff did this a ton last year where he only threw for 200 yards or so. Wilson does the same thing. He plays on a team with a better defense, but IMO we have better talent at TE and WR than they do. Wilson just makes plays and is playing better than RG3 this year. It doesn't mean he's better, right now he is...he threw some guys open last night. I haven't seen RG3 do that all year. It is what it is...hopefully RG3 will get more comfortable as the year goes on....we all want RG3 to be great, right now he's just an average NFL QB.

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Wilson is not that good. My brother is a Seattle fan so I watch every game for them. He even admits a lot of Seattle's greatness is not from Wilson, but Lynch and the Defense. Not including that Seattle's stadium may be the toughest stadium to play in the history of the NFL.

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Wilson has better numbers than all the 2nd year quarterbacks (Luck might get more yards than him by the end of the week).
Wilson has more wins than all the 2nd year quarterbacks.
Wilson has shown exceptional poise when he has been in pressure situations.

So whether its numbers, wins, or even the "eye test" I do not understand how you can say Wilson hasn't been the best 2nd year quarterback this year.

Not saying he is going to be the best quarterback out of all the 2nd year QB's, but right now he is playing the best in my opinion.