Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

I said NCAA violations. They all did it. My step-sister signed her letter of intent a few days ago to play soccer for a D1 school. They gave her a schedule of what she "was supposed to" do (had) and it broke NCAA regulations. Everyone does it, I wouldn't be suprised one bit to find out Penn State boosters give their starts cash under the table.

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we can't find facts to support it , if we could find them, just think how easy it would be for the ncaa to find them and that would spell trouble for penn state or any other school for that matter. i would bet money that they've made thier share of violations though.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

No No Ade was doing the Football Card Show circuit and for those long line of fans who had been waiting for hours to get their card signed by the great ADE..................

I don't think Burnell attended either........he was probably soaking in a hot tub...."old age" ...

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

[QUOTE=BrudLee]hasselbeck's wife is, like, eleven months pregnant. Not that that means he can't bone her, it just means I don't want to think about it.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. But I'm the daddy! :headbange

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Regarding Arrington being at the voluntary workouts, this is from the WP:

Linebacker LaVar Arrington's appearance at Redskins Park for the start of the offseason conditioning workouts this week has been noteworthy, especially since Arrington recently returned from his honeymoon. Last offseason, Arrington frustrated the coaching staff by missing several voluntary sessions. Tailback Clinton Portis was also among the players who turned out, which was roughly 90 percent of the roster

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[QUOTE=redrock-skins]Thank you. But I'm the daddy! :headbange[/QUOTE]
my wife got hotter to me the bigger she got. There is something inside us that makes us more attracted to our own wives when they are pregnant. Atleast, that's my experience.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]I said NCAA violations. They all did it. My step-sister signed her letter of intent a few days ago to play soccer for a D1 school. They gave her a schedule of what she "was supposed to" do (had) and it broke NCAA regulations. Everyone does it, I wouldn't be suprised one bit to find out Penn State boosters give their starts cash under the table.

Wolfeskins: we can't find facts to support it , if we could find them, just think how easy it would be for the ncaa to find them and that would spell trouble for penn state or any other school for that matter. i would bet money that they've made thier share of violations though.
[/QUOTE]

Like I said. Speculation, speculation, speculation. If PSU has outstanding academic NCAA violations, you would hear about it just like you do when any other college gets in trouble or sanctioned for not following the rules. And the soccer analogy would be a recruiting violation, not an academic violation.
You know what, let me try it this way:
EVERY baseball player is on steroids.
EVERY hockey player supports the strike.
EVERY person who lives in Philadelphia is an Eagles fan.
EVERY Dallas Cowboy is a criminal. (ok, well this one may have some stock).
Get the point? Just because it's true for some, doesn't mean there are not exceptions. If you want to believe that the programs that strive to remain above board (like PSU, Michigan, UVA, Notre Dame) are just as guilty as the rest, or that they have their "fair share" of violations, or for that matter any violations, and that PSU players don't have to do their own school work and that Paterno doesn't bench them for missing classes or doing poorly, then I suppose there is nothing I can do about that because you must know more than I about my own alma mater. But when you make blind and unsupported accusations to the public, I'll be here to point out that none of the facts support you.
Now that I'm sure everyone is sick of reading this rant, back to Redskins football.

By the way, I LOVE that Arrington was a surprise show at the voluntary workout when others on this site who claim to be Skins fans were so quick to SPECULATE that he wasn't there. Nothing satisfies me more than when the FACTS make people eat crow. Guess he might have learned something about dedication and work ethic after all from that corrupt JoePa and his violation ridden program.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Just in case you all missed it:

Originally Posted by [b]Daseal[/b]:
"Arrington not there? What a great team leader he is!"

Now don't you feel foolish? Darn those facts for always getting in the way. D'oh!

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Jumping to conclusions. How unusual.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

And the last horse crosses the finish line... ;)

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

PSUSKinsFan: Guess what, someone earlier in the thread said he wasn't there, I assumed they had a source. If not that had reason to believe that since the year before he missed multiple voluntary workouts. So don't get on your high Arrington horse and ride him into the model-player sunset.

Name once I've said I'm sure Penn State had academic violations? I've said I'm sure they have NCAA violations, that doesn't always mean giving students A's -- though if they had tutors doing homework I wouldn't be shocked.. Of course I can't prove it, schools cover this up and take forever to do so even with the appropriate resources. I promise you Penn State has broken NCAA rules, every school has.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Are you talking about when someone said that Arrington MAY have not been there because he MIGHT have been on his honeymoon? If so, that is just speculation on the part of that poster and unless he has direct ties with the team, it should just be treated as mere speculation and not fact.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Notice the ? mark, skinsfan? I said Arrington not there? If that's true, then he's a bad team leader (oh wait, he's a bad team leader anyways.)

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Arrington is a bad leader yet Coles is a good guy

rrrrrrrrright

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Just like Gibbs sucks, and Spurrier is a genius.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]Just like Gibbs sucks, and Spurrier is a genius.[/QUOTE]

makes sense to me! ;)

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Bad leader sounds very oxymoronish to me. It's kind of like, "You're a leader or you're not."

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Please, Matty. Show me where Arrington has stepped up and taken the team on his back? I have yet to see it, he talks like he wants it but when the going gets tuff, LaVar quiets down.

Do I ever say Spurrier good, Gibbs bad? I use the same arguments against Gibbs everyone used against Spurrier. Funny how that works. All of a sudden it's the players not executing - not poor coaching. I've said a million times that Spurrier had his share of problems, he needed to make adjustments. I've said the same thing about Gibbs's'sees', have I also not said he has three years to turn the team around before I call for a replacement? I think I have in nearly every thread. The same grace period I would have given Spurrier or any other coach. The difference between the two is Gibbs was smart enough to get one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL and still can't win.

Malcolm - he keeps trying to be a leader, but can't fill the shoes. Therefore making him a bad leader.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Daseal-was it two years ago when Arrington intercepted that pass. And the Redskins had an emotional recovery through the remainder of the season. When was that? And Arrington's arrogance and physical dominance is an anchor on defense. I've always thought that players like him elevate their worth in the locker room.

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He made a big play - good. He was the #2 overall pick. That's what they do. However, calling him a leader because he got an interception isn't accurate. Todd Franz got an interception, was he a leader after that game?

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

I honestly dont really buy into it too much either. But espn loved to show that as the turning point in our season.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]The difference between the two is Gibbs was smart enough to get one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL and still can't win.[/QUOTE]


It was his first year back after being out of the game for 12 years. Get over last year. Stop crying about it and move on.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

In this corner, with 3,212 posts, DaaaaaaaaSeal and in this corner.......EVERYBODY ELSE..... Let's get ready to ruuuummble...

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

[QUOTE=Daseal]Notice the ? mark, skinsfan? I said Arrington not there? If that's true, then he's a bad team leader (oh wait, he's a bad team leader anyways.)[/QUOTE]

Nice try, but wrong yet again. What you said was:
"Arrington not there? What a great team leader he is!" I don't see a "if that's true, then ...." anywhere in your post. What you did was take the speculation of another member and used it as an opportunity to rip a player that 90% of Skins fans dont' have a problem with, because that's what you do. I mean come on, if you are going to make asinine comments, at least stand behind them later.

Oh, and Spurrier is an idiot.
Coles is a spoiled brat.
And the team that you would have the Skins put together wouldn't win a game in 3 seasons.

And if your memory is failing you, Two years ago it was Arrington who got in the face of his teamates on the bus on the way home from a road loss when he was disgusted by the fact that almost everyone else on the team seemed satisfied to play like crap, show no heart or dedication, lose a game, and then joke around and have a good time on the way home as if nothing was wrong. Nobody else on that Skins team gave a crap about winning or putting in an honest day's work. And it was ARRINGTON who called them all on it. He wasn't yelling about how he wanted more money (ala Coles) or how he disagreed with his coach's playcalling (ala Coles), or how his stats weren't up to where he wanted them (ala Coles). He was trying to get his team to play inspired football for once because their coach (moron Spurrier) wouldn't say "boo" to any one of them because it could have led to an argument that would have made him late for his tee time. So you (who support Spurrier and Coles) are THE VERY LAST person who should be passing any judgment on who is a good team leader for the Skins.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Kumbaya my lord... Kumbaya.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

im the first to say, I dont want a peice of this fight. I lean towards you though Daseal, kick his ass.

and malcolm in the middle is drinking again.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

LOL I'm not drinking. At least, I spelled kumbaya right. ;) (I think)

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[url="http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?p=74378#post74378"]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?p=74378#post74378[/url]

Everyone just take a visit to the Happy Thread...

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]Nice try, but wrong yet again. What you said was:
"Arrington not there? What a great team leader he is!" I don't see a "if that's true, then ...." anywhere in your post. What you did was take the speculation of another member and used it as an opportunity to rip a player that 90% of Skins fans dont' have a problem with, because that's what you do. I mean come on, if you are going to make asinine comments, at least stand behind them later.

Oh, and Spurrier is an idiot.
Coles is a spoiled brat.
And the team that you would have the Skins put together wouldn't win a game in 3 seasons.

And if your memory is failing you, Two years ago it was Arrington who got in the face of his teamates on the bus on the way home from a road loss when he was disgusted by the fact that almost everyone else on the team seemed satisfied to play like crap, show no heart or dedication, lose a game, and then joke around and have a good time on the way home as if nothing was wrong. Nobody else on that Skins team gave a crap about winning or putting in an honest day's work. And it was ARRINGTON who called them all on it. He wasn't yelling about how he wanted more money (ala Coles) or how he disagreed with his coach's playcalling (ala Coles), or how his stats weren't up to where he wanted them (ala Coles). He was trying to get his team to play inspired football for once because their coach (moron Spurrier) wouldn't say "boo" to any one of them because it could have led to an argument that would have made him late for his tee time. So you (who support Spurrier and Coles) are THE VERY LAST person who should be passing any judgment on who is a good team leader for the Skins.[/QUOTE]



I'm speachless.....

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

So who is a leader on the Skins then?? I'd love to hear who has taken the team on his back.

That's really not the point of what got this thread really going. Point was some people speculated LaVar was in the 10% of players who weren't at the voluntary sessions.

Fair enough speculation given he skipped out on some last year.

Surprise, surprise, turns out he is one of the 90% in attendance. The doubters could at least admit they were wrong in their speculation.

Do we have to get into a pissing contest over everything? The board has really been on edge lately, if we could lace 'em up and get on the field I think we would kick some serious ass, LOL.

Maybe a forum to forum matchup, Warpath vs. hR, or Warpath vs. Extremeskins, LOL

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

how dare you say that Matty, im pissed. :)

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Honestly, if we could somehow coordinate that, that would be COMPLETELY bad ass... I would love to have a tackle football game arranged against some other website.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

i'll take my 5' 10" and 170 lbs and kill somebody.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

Most definitely. I'm not even kidding about this. I think it would be a great idea.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

I'm down.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

I would travel very far to play, especially if we all chipped in an entrance fee and split the money among the team for the winner.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

It would be pretty hard to arrange, but I'd definitely be down for some tackle football against another site.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

It definitely would, maybe spread the word that we could have a game like... the day before Fan Appreciation Day during the summer? Hell, I bet if someone got in contact with the Redskins, they might even consider letting people enter teams. I could be pulling that out of my ass, but when I did marketing, most organizations were happy to help customers.

Re: 90% of Skins at voluntary workout: Who do you think wasn't there?
 

When I say enter teams, maybe on Fan Appreciation Day they could have a flag football tournament... I dunno. Just a thought. ESPECIALLY since this is one of the top Redskins sites. It would not only promote more members here, it would promote more money to the organization as a whole.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]It would be pretty hard to arrange, but I'd definitely be down for some tackle football against another site.[/QUOTE]


Maybe we can Dan Snyder to sponser it!