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Kelvin Benjamin is a beast. If he is there at our second pick do you take him? I starting to think maybe we should. Benjamin on one side and Garcon on the other would be nasty... Just saying

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yes take him

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I want FSU #8 Timmy Jernigan. He is a BEAST.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1053863]Kelvin Benjamin is a beast. If he is there at our second pick do you take him? I starting to think maybe we should. Benjamin on one side and Garcon on the other would be nasty... Just saying[/quote]

If the skins online could block long enough. Depends who else is available. The value of an offensive linemen is a lot greater than a receivers value in my opinion.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1053863]Kelvin Benjamin is a beast. If he is there at our second pick do you take him? I starting to think maybe we should. Benjamin on one side and Garcon on the other would be nasty... Just saying[/quote]

No, WR can be helped in FA or later in the draft. There's going to be some good OL available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Like donofriose said, WR won't do you any good if your line can't block long enough for you to get the pass out. And I'll add this: WR also won't do you any good if your QB is sitting on the bench, injured.

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I hear ya... Benjamin looked like incredible hulk out there!

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Jernigan sounds interesting.

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I'm thinking we should get either a very solid C or G who could push to start for us immediately or if one of them fall to us in the second round we should draft WR Kelvin Benjamin, FSU or WR Allen Robinson, Penn State.

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You know i actually liked the way in 2011 that we had the draft before free agency started. It would suck to spend big on a FA at this or that position only to turn around and see a top prospect at that position fall to you in the draft.

With that said i think the best way to go (within reason) is BPA. Its better to pick a good player at a position that may not be that big of a need than pick a lesser player with the idea of filling a bigger hole. If the players not good the hole remains. (Devin Thomas and Malcomb Kelly) Minn. needed a QB so they reach for position over talent.3 years later QB is still there number 1 need

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This year we will see how good this front office is at evaluating talent.

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[url=http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/draft.php]Fanspeak's On the Clock NFL Mock Draft Simulator[/url]

Somewhat entertaining, although it isn't very realistic.

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Here is my Skins simulated draft on First-Pick.com
trade with Miami for 2nd pick

Round 2 Pick 19 (MIA): Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 2: Deion Belue, CB, Alabama (C-)
Round 3 Pick 19 (MIA): Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin (A-)
Round 4 Pick 2: Brandon Linder, OG, Miami (Fla.) (D)
Round 4 Pick 19 (MIA): A.J. Johnson, ILB, Tennessee (A)
Round 5 Pick 2: Bryan Stork, C, Florida State (A)
Round 5 Pick 19 (MIA): Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton (B)
Round 6 Pick 2: Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia (B)
Round 7 Pick 2: De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon (C+)

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[quote=tc2deuce;1054607]Here is my Skins simulated draft on First-Pick.com
trade with Miami for 2nd pick

Round 2 Pick 19 (MIA): Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 2: Deion Belue, CB, Alabama (C-)
Round 3 Pick 19 (MIA): Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin (A-)
Round 4 Pick 2: Brandon Linder, OG, Miami (Fla.) (D)
Round 4 Pick 19 (MIA): A.J. Johnson, ILB, Tennessee (A)
Round 5 Pick 2: Bryan Stork, C, Florida State (A)
Round 5 Pick 19 (MIA): Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton (B)
Round 6 Pick 2: Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia (B)
Round 7 Pick 2: De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon (C+)[/quote]

I would be in love with that outcome, but not a chance in hell. Jernigan will go top 15 of the first round.

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[quote=tc2deuce;1054607]Here is my Skins simulated draft on First-Pick.com
trade with Miami for 2nd pick

Round 2 Pick 19 (MIA): Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 2: Deion Belue, CB, Alabama (C-)
Round 3 Pick 19 (MIA): Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin (A-)
Round 4 Pick 2: Brandon Linder, OG, Miami (Fla.) (D)
Round 4 Pick 19 (MIA): A.J. Johnson, ILB, Tennessee (A)
Round 5 Pick 2: Bryan Stork, C, Florida State (A)
Round 5 Pick 19 (MIA): Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton (B)
Round 6 Pick 2: Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia (B)
Round 7 Pick 2: De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon (C+)[/quote]

So ... to move up 17 spots in the second round. MIA is giving us there 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th? Can't see that happening.

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........Thanx Joe, we had that deal in the bag!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1054619]So ... to move up 17 spots in the second round. MIA is giving us there 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th? Can't see that happening.[/quote]I don't like the notion of trading down if there are players whose values we like at that point in the draft. in 2011, Shanny traded down from #10 to #16 to get Kerrigan and a couple more picks in later rounds (3 & 4?). JJ Watt and Robert Quinn were on the board at 10. I know hindsight is 20/20, but those guys must be accounted for EVERY single play. Kerrigan is a good to very good player, but I don't know that he will ever be a dominant player the way those guys are.

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This guy would make a nice Round 2 pick for us.

Stephon Tuitt, DE
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119343&draftyear=2015&genpos=DE]Stephon Tuitt*|*Notre Dame,*DE*:*2015 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

Other good Round 2 options:


Justin Gilbert, CB
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=107733&draftyear=2014&genpos=CB]Justin Gilbert | Oklahoma State, CB : 2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

Lamarcus Joyner, CB
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=109284&draftyear=2014&genpos=CB]Lamarcus Joyner | Florida State, CB : 2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

Kelvin Benjamin, WR
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119459&draftyear=2016&genpos=WR]Kelvin Benjamin | Florida State, WR : 2016 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

Cyril Richardson, G
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=90342&draftyear=2014&genpos=og]Cyril Richardson | Baylor, OG : 2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]



Round 3, a Baylor WR, Tevin Reese, he can return kicks too.

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=96013&draftyear=2014&genpos=WR]Tevin Reese | Baylor, WR : 2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

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[quote=redskins5044;1045588]No way, draft OL and front 7 on D the whole damn draft. Can sign WR and secondary help in FA.[/quote]

The Redskins invest all this in RG3 it is dumb for him not to have weapons. Might as well go all in, because you are already all in. I know some want Cousins so they like the idea of undermining RG3's success.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1054801]The Redskins invest all this in RG3 it is dumb for him not to have weapons. Might as well go all in, because you are already all in. I know some want Cousins so they like the idea of undermining RG3's success.[/quote]

It is also dumb not to invest in players that can protect him. I think if there is a receiver and a linemen available and they have the same grade, the Skins should always go with the linemen.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1054799]This guy would make a nice Round 2 pick for us.

Stephon Tuitt, DE
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119343&draftyear=2015&genpos=DE]Stephon Tuitt*|*Notre Dame,*DE*:*2015 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

Other good Round 2 options:


Justin Gilbert, CB
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=107733&draftyear=2014&genpos=CB]Justin Gilbert*|*Oklahoma State,*CB*:*2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

Lamarcus Joyner, CB
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=109284&draftyear=2014&genpos=CB]Lamarcus Joyner*|*Florida State,*CB*:*2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

Kelvin Benjamin, WR
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119459&draftyear=2016&genpos=WR]Kelvin Benjamin*|*Florida State,*WR*:*2016 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

Cyril Richardson, G
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=90342&draftyear=2014&genpos=og]Cyril Richardson*|*Baylor,*OG*:*2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]



Round 3, a Baylor WR, Tevin Reese, he can return kicks too.

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=96013&draftyear=2014&genpos=WR]Tevin Reese*|*Baylor,*WR*:*2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url][/quote]

Are you serious? OL and DL. This team hasn't built the lines adequately since Gibbs 1. Retool the team from the football out, get your linemen in the draft and sign inexpensive FA until the draft can fill all of the holes. 3 draft cycles should do it.

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Yes I'm serious. There are some big named in FA at tackle and center and we should get a proven, solid player to plug in across from Trent, not a questionable rookie unless he's a sure thing. They're usually gone in Round 1, the real stud tackles. We shouldn't pull a Jerry Jones and draft a Center with our first pick of the draft, unless he's Alex Mack caliber. I'd rather take this influx of salary cap money and buy the REAL Alex Mack.

I like Richardson if available, he'd be a good value as one of the top guards in the draft.

Pick #34 should be BPA that fills a need. Since we're not moving to 4-3 and shifting 'Rap and Kerrigan back to DE, a 3-4 DE is a need. I like Tiutt there. He's a beast. You also can't deny the secondary is a huge need. If we can upgrade Wilson, we should.

All of the positions I listed are areas of need. I really think the O-line needs patched with some FAs that don't have a ton of miles on them and are already proven.

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Any chance we get a shot at drafting Taylor Lewan?

Kiper has manziel going 1 which is not unlikely, I'd take him if I'm Houston.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1055713]Kiper has manziel going 1 which is not unlikely, I'd take him if I'm Houston.[/quote]

I'd take Teddy B if I were Houston but that's just me.

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[quote=Lotus;1055719]I'd take Teddy B if I were Houston but that's just me.[/quote]

They really like Clowney. Not sure if they'd take him with the #1 overall, but I know they're looking to trade down.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1055713]Kiper has manziel going 1 which is not unlikely, I'd take him if I'm Houston.[/quote]

I'd take Bridgewater but bringing in the hyped-up Texas kid would probably fill more seats in Houston. Remember, it IS a business.

[QUOTE=Kindoy;1055732]They really like Clowney. Not sure if they'd take him with the #1 overall, but I know they're looking to trade down.[/QUOTE]

They already have watt and smith , I doubt they actually take clowney but u never know

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[url=http://walkingdeadmanblog.blogspot.com/2014/02/who-draft-prospects-have-redskins-been.html#more]IT IS WHAT IT IS...........: Who (Draft Prospects) Have The Redskins Been Talking To?[/url]

It is the off-season, so here's something to read.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1059242][url=http://walkingdeadmanblog.blogspot.com/2014/02/who-draft-prospects-have-redskins-been.html#more]IT IS WHAT IT IS...........: Who (Draft Prospects) Have The Redskins Been Talking To?[/url]

It is the off-season, so here's something to read.[/quote]

[COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="4"]Max Bullough[/SIZE][/COLOR]

Hard hitter and might be a good pick but he has some character issues to watch for. Also supposedly struggles to cover tight ends in passing plays.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1059247][COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="4"]Max Bullough[/SIZE][/COLOR]

Hard hitter and might be a good pick but he has some character issues to watch for. Also supposedly struggles to cover tight ends in passing plays.[/quote]

If we draft an ILB, I hope it's Shayne Skov or Chris Borland.

On that note, I wonder why Skov's stock has been falling recently. I thought he was a high 2nd round pick, but I've noticed lately he's been projected more in the 3rd or even 4th. I hope he's available in the 3rd; if we could get Antonio Richardson or Cyril Richardson in the 2nd, and Skov in the 3rd, that'd be two new starters right there.

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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3a5T0LWAYc]off man.wmv - YouTube[/url]

I like the idea of Shaq Richardson in later rounds. Checkout the vid he put up on youtube.

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If Stephen Morris goes undrafted, I'd love to sign him as an UDFA. He can make some amazing throws, and perhaps Gruden could help him be more consistent. If Morris could develop into a competent NFL QB, I'd rather him back up RG3 than Cousins, due to them having similar skill sets.

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[url=http://httr4life.com/redskins-mock-draft-first-edition/]Redskins Mock Draft: 2014 (1st Edition) - HTTR4LIFE.com - HTTR4LIFE.com[/url]

IMO not a bad draft, maybe I'm wearing rose glasses but I believe Tom Compton will step up and take the RT spot and Chase Minnifield will step up and CB 2nd year after knee surgery should be fully recovered.

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Manziel is just too risky to take number one. I keep the guys they have at QB and take Clowney.

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I've heard a few times now that the Skins might be looking to trade back into the 1st Round. [URL="http://fansided.com/2014/02/11/nfl-draft-rumors-redskins-eye-trade-first-round/#!wlhR7"] link [/URL]

But I haven't heard who those coveted targets are that they think could be taken in the 30-32 range. Have any of you heard?

I do like the thought process that if you feel strongly about a prospect to lock them into the 5 year first round rookie contract as opposed to the 4 year rookie contract.

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[quote=theJBexperience;1059645]I've heard a few times now that the Skins might be looking to trade back into the 1st Round. [URL="http://fansided.com/2014/02/11/nfl-draft-rumors-redskins-eye-trade-first-round/#!wlhR7"]link [/URL]

But I haven't heard who those coveted targets are that they think could be taken in the 30-32 range. Have any of you heard?

I do like the thought process that if you feel strongly about a prospect to lock them into the 5 year first round rookie contract as opposed to the 4 year rookie contract.[/quote]

Makes sense and the price to move up isn't significant.

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[quote=theJBexperience;1059645]I've heard a few times now that the Skins might be looking to trade back into the 1st Round. [URL="http://fansided.com/2014/02/11/nfl-draft-rumors-redskins-eye-trade-first-round/#!wlhR7"] link [/URL]

But I haven't heard who those coveted targets are that they think could be taken in the 30-32 range. Have any of you heard?

I do like the thought process that if you feel strongly about a prospect to lock them into the 5 year first round rookie contract as opposed to the 4 year rookie contract.[/quote]

My guess would be if CJ Mosely or Justin Gilbert fell. I guess the shocker pick would be for TE Eric Ebron.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1059616]Manziel is just too risky to take number one. I keep the guys they have at QB and take Clowney.[/quote]

No, they need a QB, but I agree, Manziel is no #1 pick. You only take a QB #1 (or #2 like we did) if he's a sure thing.

The media's hyping Russell Wilson and his weekly 150-yard performances as proof a shorter QB can succeed, so now a wave of short QBs are going to take over the league. Sure.

Bridgewater would be my choice if I were Houston. Clowney would be an easy pick to make and likely won't backfire but they aren't going anywhere without a QB. Having the #1 pick doesn't come around often, not even for Oakland and Cleveland, so they need to make it a franchise-changer. A QB is the best way to accomplish that. A defensive player, while valuable, usually doesn't "save" a team the way a franchise QB can.

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[quote=theJBexperience;1059645]I've heard a few times now that the Skins might be looking to trade back into the 1st Round. [URL="http://fansided.com/2014/02/11/nfl-draft-rumors-redskins-eye-trade-first-round/#!wlhR7"] link [/URL]

But I haven't heard who those coveted targets are that they think could be taken in the 30-32 range. Have any of you heard?

I do like the thought process that if you feel strongly about a prospect to lock them into the 5 year first round rookie contract as opposed to the 4 year rookie contract.[/quote]

I want Stephon Tuitt to be our pick. I think he'll be there at #34 but we may need to prepare to move up to get him.

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[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737228/christian-jones]Christian Jones, ILB, Florida State, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

Christian Jones Please...