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raleighskinsfan 03-31-2004 11:38 AM

I'll just say this-
I'm all for differences of opinion, and I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. That is indeed what makes these boards fun.
Also, all of my posts to this point have always been positive, and I've praised several of the moderators of this site.
But several of Matty's answers to my posts came off as curt and short. I don't mind someone disagreeing with me, but I do mind it if they are a smart ass to me.
How can any statement that begins with "quite simply" not be interpreted as smart assed, I ask you? Doesn't that imply "heh stupid, the answer is pretty simple?"
And I'm not the type to take that lying down.
I overreacted with my previous post and for that I apologize, but I do not think I was wrong.
In any event, I do appreciate the work you guys do for this site, and it is a great site.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club 03-31-2004 11:52 AM

Raleighskinsfan,

You are stoopid. I mean, letting your emotions get the best of you like a chick.... Maybe when you read Matty's post it was just your "time of the month!"


:iamwithst

Defensewins 03-31-2004 12:13 PM

We all disagree and put each others posts down all the time. That part of the fun. Just give it right back to them. All of us (MattyK72 included) sometimes make dumb posts. Don't sweat it, just learn to laugh about it.
Ade Jimoh Fan Club has the best sense of humor on this site. His prior posts about Ade Jimoh are LOL funny.

raleighskinsfan 03-31-2004 02:13 PM

Thanks for that defensewins. You're right.
And ouch Ade Jimoh Fan Club! That one hurt. The truth always does! I'll keep it in check in the future. That was very out of character for me. I usually keep a very cool demeanor.....

MTK 03-31-2004 02:16 PM

Note to self, never start a post with "quite simply" ever again.

What other smart-assed answers have I given you here, Raleigh? I'd really like to know.

SKINSnCANES 03-31-2004 02:30 PM

did you ever think Heath Schuler would be a sucess, it turns out thats a pretty smart ass anwser. heh

CrazyCanuck 03-31-2004 03:07 PM

Been out of touch for a while but figured this was a perfect time to jump back in.

Bashing Matty's post is ridiculous. I've been a member for years going back to the Yahoo days and if anything I've found Matty's posts to be TOO diplomatic at times. I generally agree with all his posts and I respect the way he gives his side without "calling anyone out". He also usually backs up his points with reasons so if you do disagree with him, at least you can understand where he's coming from. All in all I think he's a great moderator (along with the others), and we should all be grateful for the dedication he (they) has put into this site.

The whole point of this board is to read different opinions. That's how you learn. I know personally I've changed my view a few times after reading what others had to think. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point.

Take Daseal for example. He would rather have Spurrier than Joe Gibbs. This is one of the most ludicrous statements I've ever heard in my life. But I LOVE Daseal's posts and would sorely miss them if he were gone. He's a great devil's advocate and makes us all step back and look at things more objectively.

I think the Warpath is the best board site out there. The fans here are very knowledgeable and more importantly very respectful of each other's views and posts. Take that new guy who could barely spell as an example.

So I urge everyone to chill and enjoy. In case you haven't noticed Joe Gibbs is back. I've been smiling for months and hope I never wake up.

Now I'm gonna go find one of Daseal's posts so I can bash him. :smashfrea

[COLOR=DarkRed][B]GO SKINS[/B][/COLOR]

raleighskinsfan 03-31-2004 03:43 PM

Mattyk-
The one about Trotter was the one that really angered me. But basically, every time I began a post on this site, I would get responses that agreed and disagreed with me, which I had no problem with. But each and every time, you disagreed with my position. Again, I have no problem with that- we're all entitled to our own opinions. But not only would you disagree, you would put in some quick, short statement in the tone that "it was a fact" and my opinion was ignorant. I had no idea what I'd done to piss you off so much, but the Trotter "quite simply" remark was what sent me over the edge.
Can you explain why you would say something like that to me or what I said to illicit that remark?
I have never, nor would I ever ridicule someone's opinion like that!
Whoever reads this can call me paranoid if they want, but I know this was the case.
In any event, you, me and all of us have better things to talk about. I aired my grievance and got it off my chest, now I'm done with it. Any and all can hate me if they will, but I only stay quiet for so long when I feel I'm being dissed!
So Crazy Canuck, I don't feel it's crazy to bash Matty's post. And I think, if you've read any of my other posts, you'll see I'm not some arrogant touchy ass. But I totally agree with you. Gibbs being back is like an answer to my prayers. I'm ready to just accentuate the positive from now on!

CrazyCanuck 03-31-2004 03:53 PM

It's all good Raleighskinsfan.

If you felt dissed then you have the right to express your concerns like everyone else. It just seemed to me that it would be out of character for Matty to target anyone personally that's all. In any case I'll leave the resolution up to you guys.

And I agree with your notion of accentuating the positives from now on. Luckily we have a lot of positives to choose from!

backrow 03-31-2004 04:16 PM

Hey Raleigh!
 
You just have to attribute it to the "youthfulness" of this board. Most of the ages shown are quite frankly, half of mine! So I guess that makes me an elder statesman! CrazyCanuk is, well, crazy! But knows figures! Matty is, well, glued to this site, and is and always has been an up front guy! Plus, he's the one with the $$$, and I for one appreciate this forum to no end! The only one that will be voted off this island is Ade Jimoh Fan! Well, he will right after HOF Coach Gibbs cuts him, and then, I'm sure will change his handle! LOL If he somehow makes the team, (I doubt it!), then I will still "post" back at him.

I appreciate Daseal, SC, Boz, Defensewins, SkinsCanes, and all the new and old posters! This is just like talking to your friends at work, home, school, or wherever, and getting a different spin on what is going on! We cannot have the same opinion, because we each have different noses, and therefore, a totally different perspective from one another. But this forum feels like family, and I mean that in the sincerest terms. I feel I know you after you post a couple of times!

SKINSnCANES 03-31-2004 04:21 PM

The reason I joined this forum was becuase people could back up their different opinions. It most all cases all the arguments are educated and have some truth to them. All of us want Taylor and Winslow to be drafted, which aroudn the league would be laughed at as just dreaming. but whenever anyone has suggested an unlikely event they supplied a scenerio that could potentially happen. I love all the new ideas that have come from this post. You never know who reads this, mabye Mr. Gibbs himself is reading one of our posts and wondering if he could work out one of our scenerios.

When ive read posts on espn.com and NFL.com everythign is basically ignorant. Peopel discuss trading their practice squad players for the probowl team as a serious inquiry. I dont know the history of the site but thank you to everyone thats helped get it to the point its at now.

SmootSmack 03-31-2004 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]The reason I joined this forum was becuase people could back up their different opinions. It most all cases all the arguments are educated and have some truth to them. All of us want Taylor and Winslow to be drafted, which aroudn the league would be laughed at as just dreaming. but whenever anyone has suggested an unlikely event they supplied a scenerio that could potentially happen. I love all the new ideas that have come from this post. You never know who reads this, mabye Mr. Gibbs himself is reading one of our posts and wondering if he could work out one of our scenerios.

When ive read posts on espn.com and NFL.com everythign is basically ignorant. Peopel discuss trading their practice squad players for the probowl team as a serious inquiry. I dont know the history of the site but thank you to everyone thats helped get it to the point its at now.[/QUOTE]

How sweet (and funny) would that be if we hear a Gibbs press conference one day and he says "Well it's not a move we had even considered but I was checking out the forums on the warpath.net and saw it. And it made perfect sense. I told Vinny to give CrazyCanuck a call to crunch the numbers and 24 hours later the deal was done"

SKINSnCANES 03-31-2004 04:56 PM

lol, and from here on out I become the official Canes scout of the Redskins, am hired full time and in a public statement the team agrees not to draft any gators receivers or QB's (but hopes Jacobs proves them wrong)

BrudLee 03-31-2004 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]How sweet (and funny) would that be if we hear a Gibbs press conference one day and he says "Well it's not a move we had even considered but I was checking out the forums on the warpath.net and saw it. And it made perfect sense. I told Vinny to give CrazyCanuck a call to crunch the numbers and 24 hours later the deal was done"[/QUOTE]

Does that answer your question, Mr Crisp?

:httr:

SmootSmack 03-31-2004 05:14 PM

Of course, the best would be to hear Gibbs answer a question/comment with "Quite simply...depth"

Sorry, couldn't resist. Nothing but love Raleigh

MTK 03-31-2004 05:18 PM

[QUOTE=raleighskinsfan]Mattyk-
The one about Trotter was the one that really angered me. But basically, every time I began a post on this site, I would get responses that agreed and disagreed with me, which I had no problem with. But each and every time, you disagreed with my position. Again, I have no problem with that- we're all entitled to our own opinions. But not only would you disagree, you would put in some quick, short statement in the tone that "it was a fact" and my opinion was ignorant. I had no idea what I'd done to piss you off so much, but the Trotter "quite simply" remark was what sent me over the edge.
Can you explain why you would say something like that to me or what I said to illicit that remark?
I have never, nor would I ever ridicule someone's opinion like that!
Whoever reads this can call me paranoid if they want, but I know this was the case.
In any event, you, me and all of us have better things to talk about. I aired my grievance and got it off my chest, now I'm done with it. Any and all can hate me if they will, but I only stay quiet for so long when I feel I'm being dissed!
So Crazy Canuck, I don't feel it's crazy to bash Matty's post. And I think, if you've read any of my other posts, you'll see I'm not some arrogant touchy ass. But I totally agree with you. Gibbs being back is like an answer to my prayers. I'm ready to just accentuate the positive from now on![/QUOTE]
This is almost comical. You know what, you are being paranoid. To suggest that I have some sort of personal agenda against you is absurd. In fact, before yesterday I didn't even know who you were.

The reason I often post short messages is because I'm at work or at school. And, because I read every single post that is on the board, I often don't have the time or energy to respond with long replies, so rather than say nothing at all I'll chime in with something short. Why, because I like to be part of the discussions since what it boils down to is this is my site, LOL.

Seriously dude, I have nothing personal against you, that's not the way I operate at all. And like I said, before yesterday I didn't even know who you were.

Obviously this is a big misunderstanding, if you were offended in some way I apologize.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Tell you what, I'll steer clear of you and you do the same for me, ok?

raleighskinsfan 03-31-2004 05:25 PM

Call me comical, absurd and paranoid if you wish. I know I was dead on. Funny that I have had not a single problem with anyone else on the board.
Also funny to me that you felt the need to point out and call this "your site." That was exactly the attitude I heard in your replies towards me!
You're right- we'll just have to agree to disagree. I will steer clear of you and will appreciate the same.

raleighskinsfan 03-31-2004 05:26 PM

LOL Smootsmack! I like your sense of humor.....

MTK 03-31-2004 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=raleighskinsfan]Call me comical, absurd and paranoid if you wish. I know I was dead on. Funny that I have had not a single problem with anyone else on the board.
Also funny to me that you felt the need to point out and call this "your site." That was exactly the attitude I heard in your replies towards me!
You're right- we'll just have to agree to disagree. I will steer clear of you and will appreciate the same.[/QUOTE]

Funny how I haven't had a problem with anyone on the board for 5 years now.

offiss 03-31-2004 05:46 PM

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]The reason I joined this forum was becuase people could back up their different opinions. It most all cases all the arguments are educated and have some truth to them. All of us want Taylor and Winslow to be drafted, which aroudn the league would be laughed at as just dreaming. but whenever anyone has suggested an unlikely event they supplied a scenerio that could potentially happen. I love all the new ideas that have come from this post. You never know who reads this, mabye Mr. Gibbs himself is reading one of our posts and wondering if he could work out one of our scenerios.

When ive read posts on espn.com and NFL.com everythign is basically ignorant. Peopel discuss trading their practice squad players for the probowl team as a serious inquiry. I dont know the history of the site but thank you to everyone thats helped get it to the point its at now.[/QUOTE]


I am pretty sure they keep up with my post's, they do to many thing's that I say, wait and see they will come away with 2 #1 pick's somehow, and we will have 2 star's with this year's draft, If we don't come away with both winslow and taylor, THEN THEY SHOULD START READING MY POST'S!!!!!!!!!!!!! :headbange :lol:

MTK 03-31-2004 05:47 PM

While we're on the topic raleigh how about you take a look at your response to me in this thread and then let's compare notes as to who's being the smart ass.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?p=190#post190[/url]

SmootSmack 03-31-2004 05:54 PM

I have to say, I've looked at all your posts Raleigh, and for the most part you have intelligent things to say

But I saw no examples of Matty putting you down, and just the one time that you seemingly put Matty down. So I'm not sure where you're coming from with your complaint

Gmanc711 03-31-2004 06:09 PM

I didnt wanna get involved, but I agree Smoot.

SKINSnCANES 03-31-2004 08:08 PM

This thread is called, 'if trotter leaves'. Start a new post called, 'has anyone every disagreed with your opinion before.' Then we can start all kinds of interesting discussion...the absence of spurrier....what if Gibbs coached Westbrook...what if Marty S. didnt cut all of our franchise players...what if snyder didnt over pay for ANYONE!

cpayne5 03-31-2004 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=CrazyCanuck]Now I'm gonna go find one of Daseal's posts so I can bash him.[/QUOTE]

Good, he deserves it.

I'm not sure, but I think Raleigh may be bipolar. One post he's bashing people, the next he's asking for forgiveness and telling us all he's hardly ever like that.

Ghost 03-31-2004 08:12 PM

Matty's posts are always balanced and thoughtful and I've never been offended by anything he's written. This is a case of someone being over-sensitive or misinterpreting a comment that was not intended to offend. Let's move on.

SmootSmack 03-31-2004 08:17 PM

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]This thread is called, 'if trotter leaves'. Start a new post called, 'has anyone every disagreed with your opinion before.' Then we can start all kinds of interesting discussion...the absence of spurrier....what if Gibbs coached Westbrook...what if Marty S. didnt cut all of our franchise players...what if snyder didnt over pay for ANYONE![/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing, this thread has gotten off track hasn't it?.

Redskins press conference: "Well we told Jeremiah to seek a trade but it caused so much discord on the Warpath that we decided to keep him. We had no idea it would be such a big deal to everyone"

Daseal 03-31-2004 08:18 PM

Raleigh, I don't have anything against you or anyone else on this board, but let's stop. This IS Matty's site and if he wants to post how Cpayne enjoys nipple tassels and prefers women's underwear that's his perogative (even though it's true!)

Either way, I think we should put this behind us and continue with our normal, peaceful discussions.

Crazy: Start a Spurrier thread, I'll give you plenty of info to smash 8)

cpayne5 03-31-2004 08:21 PM

[QUOTE=Daseal]Raleigh, I don't have anything against you or anyone else on this board, but let's stop. This IS Matty's site and if he wants to post how Cpayne enjoys nipple tassels and prefers women's underwear that's his perogative (even though it's true!)

Either way, I think we should put this behind us and continue with our normal, peaceful discussions.

Crazy: Start a Spurrier thread, I'll give you plenty of info to smash 8)[/QUOTE]
Doh! That one backfired.

MTK 03-31-2004 08:58 PM

Raleigh, I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, I went back and looked at all your posts and I'm honestly at a loss for words over how I've somehow ridiculed you on multiple occassions.

This conversation is done from my end. Actually I'm a little embarrassed I got sucked into a pissing contest like this. Sorry guys.

SmootSmack 03-31-2004 09:05 PM

Reports out of Redskins Park are that Matty v Raleigh is the undercard for the Portis v Iffy matchup....ok, I'm done with this as well

Now, as for the linebacker situation. What's the latest on Holdman and Barrow. Are they still out there testing the market?

raleighskinsfan 04-01-2004 08:52 AM

Well if you'll notice Mattyk the one example you found of me being a smart ass was to you b/c I felt you'd already been one to me.
But you're absolutely right, this went on way too long.
I apologize. There's no way someone who puts in alot of his time, and from what the other posts say, money into a site like this can be all bad. I probably mistook some of your short responses as smart. Anyway, it's no biggie to me, so on to the LB talk....

Riggo44 04-01-2004 08:46 PM

Bye Bye!! Trotter! :o


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