Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1046727]Has mike left yet?[/quote]

what about now?

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

i personally saw competent play calling for once in a long time. one of the best running offenses the past 2 years. one of the best points per game last year.

do we not remember all the years of not cracking 20 points a game? atleast we had a professional offense. HC and OC also did a great job last year of play calling and play action as many times a long pass play only worked if the first read was wide open .. and last year RG3's first read on long pass plays were wide open.

the defense absolutely sucked ass this year. the secondary is atrocious. no way to hide that.

at least mike gave us a fun team to watch (sans today). i dont want to go back to boring predictable low scoring redskins football.

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[quote=over the mountain;1046860]i personally saw competent play calling for once in a long time. one of the best running offenses the past 2 years. one of the best points per game last year.

do we not remember all the years of not cracking 20 points a game? atleast we had a professional offense. HC and OC also did a great job last year of play calling and play action as many times a long pass play only worked if the first read was wide open .. and last year RG3's first read on long pass plays were wide open.

the defense absolutely sucked ass this year. the secondary is atrocious. no way to hide that.

at least mike gave us a fun team to watch (sans today). i dont want to go back to boring predictable low scoring redskins football.[/quote]

The coaching staff did a great job for 7 games during their 4 year tenure, I agree.

The rest of the time Shanahan has been here, the team has been terrible. It has been just as bad as any other year under Snyder.
Shanahan was blinded the money and now he understands why no coach will succeed under Snyder unless they tell him to shut up and get out of operations.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=over the mountain;1046860]i personally saw competent play calling for once in a long time. [B]one of the best running offenses the past 2 years[/B]. one of the best points per game last year.

do we not remember all the years of not cracking 20 points a game? atleast we had a professional offense. HC and OC also did a great job last year of play calling and play action as many times a long pass play only worked if the first read was wide open .. and last year RG3's first read on long pass plays were wide open.

the defense absolutely sucked ass this year. the secondary is atrocious. no way to hide that.

at least mike gave us a fun team to watch (sans today). i dont want to go back to boring predictable low scoring redskins football.[/quote]

Last year, Alfmo was incredible.

Lately, Alfmo has had under 50 yards and less than 15 carries over the last 3 games. It's getting the point where he barely gets any carries. I don't blame him at all for that, but the guy has zero help. Between a terrible offensive line, bad playcalling and completely getting annihilated before half-time in the majority of our games this season, I don't think the running game is that good but it's NOT Alfmo's fault. Everything Alfmo has gotten statistically, he's done it all on his own with what little chances he's getting.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000294178/article/dan-snyder-is-pissed-at-state-of-washington-redskins]Dan Snyder 'pissed' at state of Washington Redskins - NFL.com[/url]

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1046852]I'd be shocked if mike is our HC tomorrow and if he is its a Damn shame on the part of Dan.[/quote]

I hope that isn't the case. The skins will gain nothing by firing him now as opposed to waiting until the end of the season. And it could definitely hurt us. Snyder will have a tough time convincing coaches to work for him; it will be even harder if he fires a coach during the season.

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Rg3 is an idiot. He has been a cancer to this team and organization and should learn to at least shut the hell up. He is not a franchise quarterback. Franchise quarterbacks don't cause the problems he has, and don't say the things he says.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

Where are our spies? I mean in the past people would tell us where Redskins1 was heading possibly who DS was meeting with. We got nothing.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

Yeah they are saying that we are going t get the Baylor coach to pacify our big headed full of himself QB

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=Coff;1046876]I hope that isn't the case. The skins will gain nothing by firing him now as opposed to waiting until the end of the season. And it could definitely hurt us. Snyder will have a tough time convincing coaches to work for him; it will be even harder if he fires a coach during the season.[/quote]

i tend to agree with this. I also believe that leak about him wanting to leave last year does more damage to the organization than it does to him. So if he is fired during the season, no coach thats worth anything will want to come here. We will be just like the Raiders with Al Davis and have to hire bums.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=T.O.Killa;1046893]Yeah they are saying that we are going t get the Baylor coach to pacify our big headed full of himself QB[/quote]

Yea, I am not sure if you have had to much to drink or what but I am going to assume you have. I completely disagree with you, has he had his issues yes but its not just him. Its a multiple of issues. Griffin is the smaller of major issues.

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Griffin is a major issue.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1046893]Yeah they are saying that we are going t get the Baylor coach to pacify our big headed full of himself QB[/quote]

Art Briles would be a horrible hire....

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1046893]Yeah they are saying that we are going t get the Baylor coach to pacify our big headed full of himself QB[/quote]

Well the good news would be that we would have a HC that understands the "Spread Option" better.

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Great qbs wont take perks. We have had a guy like that, his name was Clinton Portis. And it was ok for Portis. Its ok for many players. Not franchise QBs

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1046897]Griffin is a major issue.[/quote]

I agree, but like I said he is a smaller of the major issue.

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Art Briles, would be the equivalent of Zorn.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1046904]Art Briles, would be the equivalent of Zorn.[/quote]

Well they claim he's the Chip Kelly equivalent. Except Art's offense is supposed to be even quicker and faster no huddle.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=SBXVII;1046911]Well they claim he's the Chip Kelly equivalent. Except Art's offense is supposed to be even quicker and faster no huddle.[/quote]

who cares? You really want to play even more of this college offense. Don't have the playmakers to run that offense like the eagles do.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=SBXVII;1046911]Well they claim he's the Chip Kelly equivalent. Except Art's offense is supposed to be even quicker and faster no huddle.[/quote]

Do we draft Bryce why we are at it?

[QUOTE=spAtt;1046856]what about now?[/QUOTE]

Watching SF vs Seattle. Watching Russell Wilson reminds me of what a professional QB looks like. To think we could have kept our picks and got a better QB kills me.


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I believe all of the above is true.

But if this is the case - then if MS knows he is done, why not just bench RG3, play Cousins the rest of the way to evaluate him.

Then when he gets fired Cousins can go with him on his next team..

[QUOTE=Brody81;1046922]Watching SF vs Seattle. Watching Russell Wilson reminds me of what a professional QB looks like. To think we could have kept our picks and got a better QB kills me.


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Wilson is good but he won't be better than Griffin down the road just wait

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=T.O.Killa;1046882]Rg3 is an idiot. He has been a cancer to this team and organization and should learn to at least shut the hell up. He is not a franchise quarterback. Franchise quarterbacks don't cause the problems he has, and don't say the things he says.[/quote]

[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/50876-russel-wilson-or-bob.html#post976940"]Definitely glad[/URL] fans aren't in charge of the team. What a difference a year makes.

[QUOTE=mooby;1046926][URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/50876-russel-wilson-or-bob.html#post976940"]Definitely glad[/URL] fans aren't in charge of the team.[/QUOTE]

Last yr the same person was loving Griffin now they hate him wow.

[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;1046902]Great qbs wont take perks. We have had a guy like that, his name was Clinton Portis. And it was ok for Portis. Its ok for many players. Not franchise QBs[/QUOTE]

This. So much for Griffin being a leader. More like prima Donna..


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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1046925]Wilson is good but he won't be better than Griffin down the road just wait[/QUOTE]

Disagree.


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Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=Shadowbyte;1046850]I posted this question on Extremeskins.com, "Shannahan and Pete Carroll were hired within in days of one another, who's done a better job building their roster and why, plus name one position we're better at compared to Seattle". Of-course there were a lot of excuses.[/quote]

They weren't in the same situation. You can't compare coaches taking over two different teams (and culture) and compare the two.

Shanahan is a good coach. Shanahan is a bad GM. That pretty much explains it.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1046936]They weren't in the same situation. You can't compare coaches taking over two different teams (and culture) and compare the two.

Shanahan is a good coach. Shanahan is a bad GM. That pretty much explains it.[/quote]Shanahan is a bad GM. He is not a good coach. He does not do very much coaching. He's a community organizer in charge of a billion dollar football operation. He's over his head.

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;1046938]Shanahan is a bad GM. He is not a good coach. He does not do very much coaching. He's a community organizer in charge of a billion dollar football operation. He's over his head.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't matter who the coach is. The owner can't have an open door policy so players can go over the coaches head.



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Where is Bruce Allen in all of this?


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[quote=Brody81;1046942]Doesn't matter who the coach is. The owner can't have an open door policy so players can go over the coaches head.



Sent from my iPad using [URL=http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1]Tapatalk[/URL][/quote]That's not going to change. Whether it should is a different debate.

It's very much a pro-sports thing to have an owner-QB relationship. The NFL is a relationships business. Coaches are as big a culprit of such a culture as any entity.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1046947]That's not going to change. Whether it should is a different debate.

It's very much a pro-sports thing to have an owner-QB relationship. The NFL is a relationships business. Coaches are as big a culprit of such a culture as any entity.[/quote]

So Rex Grossman, John Beck, Patrick Ramsey, Jason Campbell, etc had this type of relationship.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=redskins5044;1046953]So Rex Grossman, John Beck, Patrick Ramsey, Jason Campbell, etc had this type of relationship.[/quote]Only one we gave up a significant amount to get was Campbell...and he frankly would have benefited from such a situation.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=GTripp0012;1046973]Only one we gave up a significant amount to get was Campbell...and he frankly would have benefited from such a situation.[/quote]

And thats the problem when you play the ultimate team game of football. Cant have favorites.

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[quote=redskins5044;1046980]And thats the problem when you play the ultimate team game of football. Cant have favorites.[/quote]

If you don't think there are favorites in any situation where there is a team, you are dreaming.

Time to call a spade a spade.. Synder is a terrible owner that has ruined my beloved franchise. Time for the million fan march to let's this POS know how mad we are!!


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[quote=Bushead;1046981]If you don't think there are favorites in any situation where there is a team, you are dreaming.[/quote]

Thats fine when you have proven yourself...RG3 is far was a superstar player in this league..a superstar at Subway, ADIDAS commercials, and documentaries about his rehab.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1046938]Shanahan is a bad GM. He is not a good coach. He does not do very much coaching. He's a community organizer in charge of a billion dollar football operation. He's over his head.[/quote]

Truer words...

Sounds like it'll all be over tomorrow. Better days ahead.

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This article says it all

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/mike-shanahans-days-with-the-washington-redskins-are-numbered/2013/12/08/edf46972-604c-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html]Mike Shanahan’s days with the Washington Redskins are numbered - The Washington Post[/url]