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Thanks, that's what I'm hoping. Not that I couldn't get behind a Defensive coach.
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[quote=SmootSmack;1053036][B]Special Teams[/B]
Kidding, I think the favorites are all offensive coaches so I guess I'd have to lean that way[/quote] I swear to god, if I hear Danny Smith one more time.... |
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[quote=The Dull Roar;1053040]I swear to god, if I hear Danny Smith one more time....[/quote]
And Gregg Williams. |
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I actually wouldn't mind if Gregg Williams came back as the D coordinator. having a top 10 defense three years out of the four he was here for isnt bad.
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Where's Al Saunders these days?
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[quote=WillH;1053044]Where's Al Saunders these days?[/quote]
My guess would be the bingo hall? |
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[quote=WillH;1053044]Where's Al Saunders these days?[/quote]
Oakland |
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From the list, which is quite uninspiring, I'd go with (in order of preference) McDermott, Fewell, Bevell, Caldwell.
McDermott-Pros: Learned under Andy Reid and Jim Johnson, two highly regarded coaches on structure and organization. Lots of history in the NFCE. Aggressive but disciplined defense. Defenses have had an upward trajectory each year the past few years. Cons: Never been a head coach at any level. Unsure of offensive philosophy and who his OC would be (maybe Chudzinski). Is he ready or the next Spagnuolo? Fewell-Pros: Head coaching (interim) experience. 3-4 and 4-3 scheme experience. NFCE experience. Cons: Uneven performances with his defenses. Doesn't scream leader by his demeanor. Bevell- Pros: Decent history with Favre and Wilson. Run based which fits our personnel but not afraid to throw. Experience with a mobile QB. Cons: Have you actually WATCHED Seattle on offense? They get big plays from Lynch and lots of improv plays from Wilson but their 'scheduled' passing plays are pedestrian. Rankings have been middling, high teens, for most of his career. Leadership questions and he was fired just two years ago as an OC in Minnesota. Do we think he's turned it around that much? Caldwell- Pros: Excellent QB coach. Would probably be the best mentor for RG3 of this group. Has worked with some great QB so he could impart some wisdom from them. Cons: pretty much everything else. Doesn't seem like a great leader. Don't know about his overall team management skills. I'm sure he's a great football man but I don't know if he's what we need right now. |
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1053041]And Gregg Williams.[/quote]
This. Can we stop with the Redskins reunion tour of Williams, Danny Smith and Russ Grimm? The only former Redskins coaches who should even be considered would be Whisenhunt and Bowles. |
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[quote=Mattyk;1053025]Win or lose they can interview on Monday.[/quote]
Thank you Matty, I didn't know that. |
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Is Bill Musgrave on the Redskins list or anyones list?
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[quote=Paintrain;1053050]This. Can we stop with the Redskins reunion tour of Williams, Danny Smith and Russ Grimm? The only former Redskins coaches who should even be considered would be Whisenhunt and Bowles.[/quote]
Agree. Damn I'd take that combo: whissy hc, Bowles dc, and chud OC |
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[quote=Chico23231;1053054]Agree. Damn I'd take that combo: whissy hc, Bowles dc, and chud OC[/quote]
And Grimm OL coach |
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Voted Bevell but want Shaw or maybe even Sumlin a bit more.
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Jim Caldwell was 3 years as a Head Coach and finish 26-22. He was 2-14 in a year without Payton Manning. He is a good coach.
Paintrain- I will continue to pound my fist for Russ Grimm until he is eliminated from contention by Bruce Allen like Bill Cowher was today. |
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Rundown on Bevell's qualifications:
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/60299/sizing-up-the-candidates-darrell-bevell]Sizing up the candidates: Darrell Bevell - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url] |
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[quote=Fiversons;1052985]From this list I would take Bevell... But if I had my choice, the top 3 would be David Shaw, Jay Gruden and Mike Zimmer in no particular order...[/quote]
I actually would be ok with gruden. Anyone who can make dalton look competent can turn Griffen into a hall of famer. I don't know much about shaw..., not high on Zimmer. |
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[quote=Paintrain;1053050]This. Can we stop with the Redskins reunion tour of Williams, Danny Smith and Russ Grimm? The only former Redskins coaches who should even be considered would be Whisenhunt and Bowles.[/quote]
I'm sorry, but this is complete bullshit.... I would take Greg Williams over any one the current Redskin HC in this poll... Wisenhunt is going to Detroit, and no thanks on Bowels... |
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Has x Cleveland coach C.H.U.D. Been rumored anywhere? I think he
Would be a good OC for us. |
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[quote=Fiversons;1053061]I'm sorry, but this is complete bullshit.... I would take Greg Williams over any one the current Redskin HC in this poll... Wisenhunt is going to Detroit, and no thanks on Bowels...[/quote]
The fact that hes been repeatedly passed up for HC jobs and been fired twice as a DC since leaving here, plus all the bounty baggage, what leads you to believe hes the best man for the job? Diehard I hear ya but see above minus Bountygate and the same goes for Grimm. Never even been a coordinator and you're ready to put him in charge of the franchise?? You think there's something there that 32 organizations repeatedly have missed? |
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[quote=Paintrain;1053064]The fact that hes been repeatedly passed up for HC jobs and been fired twice as a DC since leaving here, plus all the bounty baggage, what leads you to believe hes the best man for the job?
Diehard I hear ya but see above minus Bountygate and the same goes for Grimm. Never even been a coordinator and you're ready to put him in charge of the franchise?? You think there's something there that 32 organizations repeatedly have missed?[/quote] He only went for one job that was Pittsburgh. We will see what happen in the next couple of weeks. Everyone gets fired in the NFL, that means nothing to me. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1053063]Has x Cleveland coach C.H.U.D. Been rumored anywhere? I think he
Would be a good OC for us.[/quote] IMO your idea of having C.H.U.D. :) as an OC is a good one. He did well with Cam Newton; you'd think that he would be great with Griff. |
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[quote=Paintrain;1053064]The fact that hes been repeatedly passed up for HC jobs and been fired twice as a DC since leaving here, plus all the bounty baggage, what leads you to believe hes the best man for the job?
Diehard I hear ya but see above minus Bountygate and the same goes for Grimm. Never even been a coordinator and you're ready to put him in charge of the franchise?? You think there's something there that 32 organizations repeatedly have missed?[/quote] Ok.... Fair enough... I want him as our DC, and I have heard he would be willing to serve in that capacity.... I want either David Shaw or Jay Gruden as our HC... But this list is so underwhelming, I would rather take Williams... At least I know the defense will be good... |
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Bevell... youtube his name theres two interviews with him if yall are researching
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Jay Gruden:
- was OC under HC Jim Haslett for the Florida Tuskers of the UFL - when Haslett came to DC, Gruden became HC of the Tuskers. The Tuskers had Joe Theismann as an owner. - the Tuskers then moved to become the Virginia Destroyers, whose GM was Doug Williams. Are these omens that Jay Gruden is destined for D.C.? |
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[quote=diehardskin2982;1053065][B]He only went for one job that was Pittsburgh. [/B]We will see what happen in the next couple of weeks. Everyone gets fired in the NFL, that means nothing to me.[/quote]
What? |
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[quote=diehardskin2982;1053065][B]He only went for one job that was Pittsburgh.[/B] We will see what happen in the next couple of weeks. Everyone gets fired in the NFL, that means nothing to me.[/quote]
The lie detector determined that is a lie. |
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As a G Williams apologist:
He's easily, far and away the most accomplished/successful defensive coach of all potential coaching candidates. He produces top defenses without tons of talent. Apart from Sean and London he didn't have elite talent in DC. Same with the saints. As a comparison that Mcdermitt fellow has more talent on his defense than Williams ever had, probably by a long way, and Carolina isn't any better on D than anything Williams put together. His HC experience was much like Belichick's first HC gig. Lousy team/franchise. But that experience is valuable. He's been all the way through the playoffs and won a SB. His defense won that SB as much as the saints offense. Again, great experience. He's a bad motherfucker. The bounty thing is a lame ass excuse. They've reportedly gone on for ages. And you know Williams will do everything above board from now on. But the bottom line is he's a leader. His players respect him and actually show it on the field by busting their asses. The problem with bringing him on as DC only is he's likely to overshadow the HC IMO. Based on experience, leadership and the way players respond. |
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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1053072]The lie detector determined that is a lie.[/quote]
Yeah I mean he also has interviewed with Arizona, Chicago, Jets, and Buffalo for starters |
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[quote=diehardskin2982;1053058]Jim Caldwell was 3 years as a Head Coach and finish 26-22. He was 2-14 in a year without Payton Manning. He is a good coach.
Paintrain- I will continue to pound my fist for Russ Grimm until he is eliminated from contention by Bruce Allen like Bill Cowher was today.[/quote] Wait...in the year he didn't have one of the top 3 QBs ever he lost 14 games. What about his record shows he was any good? |
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[quote=FRPLG;1053075]Wait...in the year he didn't have one of the top 3 QBs ever he lost 14 games. What about his record shows he was any good?[/quote]
The part where he built his team around one player, then when that player couldn't play he didn't have any backup plan and it ended up costing him his job. I'm not very high on Caldwell either. |
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What coach would have done any better with no Manning that year? The Colts were totally built around him.
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I blame that colt season on bill polian more than Caldwell. I still don't want Caldwell, I don't see anything inspiring about him
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[quote=Mattyk;1053100]What coach would have done any better with no Manning that year? The Colts were totally built around him.[/quote]
Any former Redskins player apparently. |
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[quote=Mattyk;1053100]What coach would have done any better with no Manning that year? The Colts were totally built around him.[/quote]
True but maybe they don't go 2-14 if they didn't have a guy like Curtis Painter as their backup. Every team should have a solid backup quarterback, the entire game revolves around them. They were exposed without Manning, and I don't like that. Imagine if he built this team around RG3 and then RG3 goes down, and an entire season is wasted. Not saying Kirk Cousins is as bad as Curtis Painter, but I'm not a fan of building a team around one player. |
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[quote=mooby;1053103]True but maybe they don't go 2-14 if they didn't have a guy like Curtis Painter as their backup. Every team should have a solid backup quarterback, the entire game revolves around them. They were exposed without Manning, and I don't like that. Imagine if he built this team around RG3 and then RG3 goes down, and an entire season is wasted. Not saying Kirk Cousins is as bad as Curtis Painter, but I'm not a fan of building a team around one player.[/quote]
Totally agree, and that certainly wasn't Caldwell's fault. |
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problem is, Colts were a playoff team the year before and a playoff team the year after with 2 different QB. Certainly Caldwell should have had that team playing better.
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[quote=Chico23231;1053107]problem is, Colts were a playoff team the year before and a playoff team the year after with 2 different QB. Certainly Caldwell should have had that team playing better.[/quote]
Yeah I was about to say something along these same lines. I would think the coaching staff, if there was a belief in them, could have gotten a 'Manning' pass, especially with a #1 overall pick coming in. That entire team fell apart at the seams. |
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How is double G even being talked about as a head coaching candidate? He ratted out players in exchange for the Commish letting him back into the league. No locker room is ever going to rally behind him.
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[quote=Paintrain;1053108]Yeah I was about to say something along these same lines. I would think the coaching staff, if there was a belief in them, could have gotten a 'Manning' pass, especially with a #1 overall pick coming in. That entire team fell apart at the seams.[/quote]
It was the best thing that could have happened to them. They got Luck. The main reason the Skins have struggled to find a franchise QB is that they didn't suck enough. They always finished with 5-8 wins, which put them out of reach for the top QB prospect. The year we finally get a top 2 pick, it goes to St. Louis;) |
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