Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=Kindoy;1057275]Millions of dollars or a hit off the blunt - life's harder decisions.[/quote]

And just think, he could have gotten PAID and retired with all the pot he could smoke.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

What a waste of talent -- would folks be inclined to re-sign him at the vet min (which is all he will get from anywhere)? I have to say, I was in favor of seeign what a new coach can do, but I cannot say I trust this guy to make it through a season, and sometimes you just have to move on.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=Monkeydad;1057281]Well said. [B]This is the concept of responsibility and maturity that the "pot is like jaywalking" crowd around here and in society do not understand.

Your employer has rules. There are also laws to follow.

If you abide by them you have your job and you stay out of legal trouble. If you ignore them because you think you're above them or they're rules you disagree with, prepare for the consequences.[/B]

Fred Davis has already gotten many more chances than many of us would have received in our own jobs...a company would probably fire someone who is on drugs, sleeps on the clock and misses as many days as he reports to work. He's blown his chance at having his dream job. I don't understand why so many people want to defend this slacker and screw-up. I guess they just want that type of behavior to be acceptable so they can do the same without being accountable for their actions.[/quote]

For some reason this just made me laugh. The MD manifesto. MD, I am prepared for the consquences of jaywalking.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

Some people estimate 50% of players smoke, that's probably on the low side. You have to be pretty dumb to get caught. Pretty sure the tests aren't random, until you get caught that is. Just stop smoking for a few weeks. Not hard.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=Mattyk;1057287]Some people estimate 50% of players smoke, that's probably on the low side. You have to be pretty dumb to get caught. Pretty sure the tests aren't random, until you get caught that is. Just stop smoking for a few weeks. Not hard.[/quote]

Naw, that would make way too much sense.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=Monkeydad;1057281]Well said. This is the concept of responsibility and maturity that the "pot is like jaywalking" crowd around here and in society do not understand.

Your employer has rules. There are also laws to follow.

If you abide by them you have your job and you stay out of legal trouble. If you ignore them because you think you're above them or they're rules you disagree with, prepare for the consequences.

Fred Davis has already gotten many more chances than many of us would have received in our own jobs...a company would probably fire someone who is on drugs, sleeps on the clock and misses as many days as he reports to work. He's blown his chance at having his dream job. [B] I don't understand why so many people want to defend this slacker and screw-up. I guess they just want that type of behavior to be acceptable so they can do the same without being accountable for their actions.[/B][/quote]

I'm not sure anyone is defending him. I certainly wouldn't defend the bonehead, but I tend to feel like the sleeping on the job is the worse offense then smoking some pot on his own time. I think most others would agree that he is an idiot, but that the rules are useless, and that in some cases (not necessarily this one) it could lead to loosing out on some great talent for something really benign.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

Mike Shanahan should invite Fred Davis over, they both have plenty of free time now. And it's legal in Denver

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=Monkeydad;1057281]Well said. This is the concept of responsibility and maturity that the "pot is like jaywalking" crowd around here and in society do not understand.

Your employer has rules. There are also laws to follow.

If you abide by them you have your job and you stay out of legal trouble. If you ignore them because you think you're above them or they're rules you disagree with, prepare for the consequences.

Fred Davis has already gotten many more chances than many of us would have received in our own jobs...a company would probably fire someone who is on drugs, sleeps on the clock and misses as many days as he reports to work. He's blown his chance at having his dream job. I don't understand why so many people want to defend this slacker and screw-up. I guess they just want that type of behavior to be acceptable so they can do the same without being accountable for their actions.[/quote]

We actually want rape, dog killing, and bringing guns to clubs to be acceptable as well - they're all rules so they should be treated the same.

The point is that all rules aren't created equally. He should be punished, but a ban from the game for smoking some pot is a bit much. Someone with the talent of a Fred Davis is a little bit harder to replace in his field of work than many of us are in ours.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=SmootSmack;1057296]Mike Shanahan should invite Fred Davis over, they both have plenty of free time now. And it's legal in Denver[/quote]

CP should join them

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=SmootSmack;1057296]Mike Shanahan should invite Fred Davis over, they both have plenty of free time now. And it's legal in Denver[/quote]

Lol. Then Shanny can have red eyes to go with his red face.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

What a waste of jersey number....hit the road dumb ass.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1057296]Mike Shanahan should invite Fred Davis over, they both have plenty of free time now. And it's legal in Denver[/QUOTE]

Word is that's y mike and Fred had issues, mike wanted OG kush and Fred wasn't sharing

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1057302]Word is that's y mike and Fred had issues, mike wanted OG kush and Fred wasn't sharing[/quote]

Lol. "Don't bogart the kind, Fred!"

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

Jordan Reed sent him an anonymous bag.......allegedly
Dumbass

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=Mattyk;1057287]Some people estimate 50% of players smoke, that's probably on the low side. You have to be pretty dumb to get caught. Pretty sure the tests aren't random, until you get caught that is. Just stop smoking for a few weeks. Not hard.[/quote]




Weed is legal in some places, just not the NFL but a player can have a beer but not a smoke ?

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1057302]Word is that's y mike and Fred had issues, mike wanted OG kush and Fred wasn't sharing[/quote]

If it was the real OG, I probably wouldn't either

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1057308]If it was the real OG, I probably wouldn't either[/QUOTE]

Lol

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1057258]Pot is the gateway to rape, rape is the gateway to being gay and being gay is the gateway to being Obama.

Damnit, you need to learn how the world works![/quote]

LMAO!

That is awesome

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1057269]I guess Mike's doghouse ended up being renovated into a grow house. SMOKE IF YOU GOT EM!


Fred is now submitting his application to work in one of the marijuana distribution centers in Colorado.[/quote]

With Fred's cash stash he might be looking into opening one..

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=SmootSmack;1057296]Mike Shanahan should invite Fred Davis over, they both have plenty of free time now. And it's legal in Denver[/quote]

Here's how I imagine it would go:

Mike: "Would you like to smoke some legal marijuana Fred? It's becoming quite fashionable out here, you know. The wife picked up these his and hers crystal bongs when she went shopping in Aspen last weekend. You can use hers. She's out buying some more "shit" right now. Can you believe that people actually call it "shit"? Well, anyways I'm starting to like it a lot. My favorite brands are Mile High and Super Bowl. Go ahead Fred, take a "hit" and put on some tunes while I get us a couple of Coors.

Fred (to himself): What the **** was that? He must be trippin'. He knows I can't be smokin' that shit right now. I was just gonna ask him for some help findin' a job with another team. I got to get outta this place!

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

well, the other way to look at it is we could get an injury replacement once reed goes down again at veteran minimum prices. 8-10 games of fred davis is still better than 16 games of niles paul.

it's a real shame he's not that bright though. it really is kind of a waste.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

there is no fred, only zuul.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

This is a dumb question but is it a done deal that Davis is gone? Have the skins released him??

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

He was on a one year deal so he's due to be a FA.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1057258]Pot is the gateway to rape, rape is the gateway to being gay and being gay is the gateway to being Obama.

Damnit, you need to learn how the world works![/quote]

lol thats funny.

see ya mr. davis.

its not hard to stop smoking weed.

sucks for you when in 2 years you have to stop smoking weed for your post office job.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=ki skins fan;1057333]here's how i imagine it would go:

Mike: "would you like to smoke some legal marijuana fred? It's becoming quite fashionable out here, you know. The wife picked up these his and hers crystal bongs when she went shopping in aspen last weekend. You can use hers. She's out buying some more "shit" right now. Can you believe that people actually call it "shit"? Well, anyways i'm starting to like it a lot. My favorite brands are mile high and super bowl. Go ahead fred, take a "hit" and put on some tunes while i get us a couple of coors.

Fred (to himself): What the **** was that? He must be trippin'. He knows i can't be smokin' that shit right now. I was just gonna ask him for some help findin' a job with another team. I got to get outta this place![/quote]

lmfao !!!!!

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1057333]Here's how I imagine it would go:

Mike: "Would you like to smoke some legal marijuana Fred? It's becoming quite fashionable out here, you know. The wife picked up these his and hers crystal bongs when she went shopping in Aspen last weekend. You can use hers. She's out buying some more "shit" right now. Can you believe that people actually call it "shit"? Well, anyways I'm starting to like it a lot. My favorite brands are Mile High and Super Bowl. Go ahead Fred, take a "hit" and put on some tunes while I get us a couple of Coors.

Fred (to himself): What the **** was that? He must be trippin'. He knows I can't be smokin' that shit right now. I was just gonna ask him for some help findin' a job with another team. I got to get outta this place![/quote]"And that's why I failed the last drug test, Mr. Goodell."

Wonder when the NFLPA will fight suspensions of players where weed is legal?

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

it's still banned under the cba, so they won't, or they won't have any traction. when they redo the cba though, i wouldn't be surprised if it's brought up.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

KI, that makes me lol, I can see it going like this:

[IMG]http://www130.lunapic.com/do-not-link-here-use-hosting-instead/139074747395419?757840895[/IMG]

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

It doesn't matter if the entire US makes weed legal. It's within the rights of the NFL to ban its usage. Many of the drugs on their PED list are over the counter stuff that is legal and yet it is still banned.

Legality of the drug is really irrelevant.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1057475]It doesn't matter if the entire US makes weed legal. It's within the rights of the NFL to ban its usage. Many of the drugs on their PED list are over the counter stuff that is legal and yet it is still banned.

Legality of the drug is really irrelevant.[/quote]

Yea it's the same thing with freedom speech and people that think your employer can't do anything when you say something that makes the company look bad.

People seem to confuse the role of businesses and law.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

I'm on record calling Davis a lousy pick in 2008, and I've been a frequent critic since then. Good riddance.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=SouperMeister;1057493]I'm on record calling Davis a lousy pick in 2008, and I've been a frequent critic since then. Good riddance.[/quote]

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Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=los panda;1057382]there is no fred, only zuul.[/quote]

:joecool:

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=SouperMeister;1057493]I'm on record calling Davis a lousy pick in 2008, and I've been a frequent critic since then. Good riddance.[/quote]
Redskins 2008 Draft
2 34 Devin Thomas Wide Receiver 6'2 215 Michigan State
2 48 Fred Davis Tight End 6'4 250 Southern Cal
2 51 Malcolm Kelly Wide Receiver 6'4 219 Oklahoma
3 96 Chad Rinehart Offensive Guard 6'5 320 Northern Iowa
4 124 Justin Tryon Cornerback 5'9 180 Arizona State
6 168 Durant Brooks Punter 6'0 204 Georgia Tech
6 180 Kareem Moore Safety 5'11 213 Nicholls State
6 186 Colt Brennan Quarterback 6'2 205 Hawaii
7 242 Rob Jackson Defensive end 6'4 257 Kansas State
7 249 Chris Horton Safety 6'1 216 UCLA

Redskins 2009 Draft
1 13 Brian Orakpo Defensive end 6'3" 263 Texas
3 80 Kevin Barnes Cornerback 6'1" 188 Maryland
5 158 Cody Glenn Linebacker 6'0" 244 Nebraska
6 186 Robert Henson Linebacker 6'1" 228 Texas Christian
7 221 Eddie Williams Tight end 6'1" 235 Idaho
7 243 Marko Mitchell Wide receiver 6'4" 218 Nevada

Thanks Vinny and Danny!

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=HailGreen28;1057512]Redskins 2008 Draft
2 34 Devin Thomas Wide Receiver 6'2 215 Michigan State
2 48 Fred Davis Tight End 6'4 250 Southern Cal
2 51 Malcolm Kelly Wide Receiver 6'4 219 Oklahoma
3 96 Chad Rinehart Offensive Guard 6'5 320 Northern Iowa
4 124 Justin Tryon Cornerback 5'9 180 Arizona State
6 168 Durant Brooks Punter 6'0 204 Georgia Tech
6 180 Kareem Moore Safety 5'11 213 Nicholls State
6 186 Colt Brennan Quarterback 6'2 205 Hawaii
7 242 Rob Jackson Defensive end 6'4 257 Kansas State
7 249 Chris Horton Safety 6'1 216 UCLA

Redskins 2009 Draft
1 13 Brian Orakpo Defensive end 6'3" 263 Texas
3 80 Kevin Barnes Cornerback 6'1" 188 Maryland
5 158 Cody Glenn Linebacker 6'0" 244 Nebraska
6 186 Robert Henson Linebacker 6'1" 228 Texas Christian
7 221 Eddie Williams Tight end 6'1" 235 Idaho
7 243 Marko Mitchell Wide receiver 6'4" 218 Nevada

Thanks Vinny and Danny![/quote]

Over the past few years, I have to believe that we have one of the worst draft history's in the NFL.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1057513]Over the past few years, I have to believe that we have one of the worst draft history's in the NFL.[/quote]Which begs the question: If the majority of these misses were recommendations from Scott Campbell, how does he still have a job? The story that Vinny was overruled on Jamaal Charles with the Malcolm Kelly pick would seem to indicate that Kelly was the choice of Snyder, with possible advice from others.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

The problem is the Redskins are not patient with young players.

We draft players to let them go. we have focused on the next free agent that we brought in instead of development and depth.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=SouperMeister;1057533]Which begs the question: If the majority of these misses were recommendations from Scott Campbell, how does he still have a job? The story that Vinny was overruled on Jamaal Charles with the Malcolm Kelly pick would seem to indicate that Kelly was the choice of Snyder, with possible advice from others.[/quote]

The issue is front office guys like Campbell haven't been listened to enough over the years, something that is supposed to change now.

Re: Fred Davis Bye Bye
 

[quote=diehardskin2982;1057540]The problem is the Redskins are not patient with young players.

We draft players to let them go. we have focused on the next free agent that we brought in instead of development and depth.[/quote]

This.

Belichick wins every year with no-names because he develops talent. We need to follow suit.