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[quote=Chico23231;1061460]eh, more of a disgruntle employee. there were questions if he was really hurt early in the year and just chose not to play.

Its clear that Byrd wants to be the highest paid safety in the league, I hope we dont fall for that trap.[/quote]

Unless Byrd's goal is to be highest paid player in NFL, I think it's more of Byrd wanting to get out of Bills. I remember reading an article a couple of days ago, Bills offered Byrd a contract that would make him highest paid FS in NFL and he declined it.

I would not be oppose to the idea of pursuing after Byrd

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Defense Targets:

Tyson Jackson
Linval Joseph
Erin Henderson
Brandon Spike
Aqib Talib
Jarius Byrd
Michael Mitchell

Offense Targets:
Andre Roberts
Emmanuel Sanders
Anthony Collins
Geoff Schwartz
Brian De la Puente

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Byrd is still talking to Buffalo and he says he's open to other possibilities, as well. He's going to be very well paid by some team other than the Redskins.

There have been rumors that Cleveland has made him their #1 FA target. His former DC is now the HC there and they have both cap space and an owner who is willing to spend.

If a team like Oakland, which has $64MM in cap space, or Indy, which has $40M in cap space, decides they want him, then they can probably get him.

We just have too many other needs to sign Byrd. Besides, our safeties were so bad last year that if we sign Mike Mitchell, Chris Clemons, Antoine Bethea, or some other decent, reasonably priced safety, we'll be greatly improved at that position without eating up a very large portion of our cap space.

I would say that the probability of the Skins signing Byrd is less than 5%.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1061484]Byrd is still talking to Buffalo and he says he's open to other possibilities, as well. He's going to be very well paid by some team other than the Redskins.

There have been rumors that Cleveland has made him their #1 FA target. His former DC is now the HC there and they have both cap space and an owner who is willing to spend.

If a team like Oakland, which has $64MM in cap space, or Indy, which has $40M in cap space, decides they want him, then they can probably get him.

We just have too many other needs to sign Byrd. Besides, our safeties were so bad last year that if we sign Mike Mitchell, Chris Clemons, Antoine Bethea, or some other decent, reasonably priced safety, we'll be greatly improved at that position without eating up a very large portion of our cap space.

I would say that the probability of the Skins signing Byrd is less than 5%.[/quote]

Nah, I'd say the actual percentage is around 8.44782%. You are way off.

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[quote=GridIron26;1061474]Unless Byrd's goal is to be highest paid player in NFL, I think it's more of Byrd wanting to get out of Bills. I remember reading an article a couple of days ago, Bills offered Byrd a contract that would make him highest paid FS in NFL and he declined it.

I would not be oppose to the idea of pursuing after Byrd[/quote]

Byrd turned down an offer from the bills that looked to be in the 30M/three year range. I expect he is looking for 35-40M in guarantees. Maybe not the most in the NFL, certainly the highest paid (substantially) safety.

Others think he is worth that. I have my doubts that we can't do fine with a substantially less costly option. Quite frankly, almost any reasonable amount spent will purchase an upgrade over last year's performance at the position.

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[quote=Mechanix544;1061488]Nah, I'd say the actual percentage is around 8.44782%. You are way off.[/quote]

So, you're saying there's a chance? :laughing-

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1061463]Why would you move the best LT to RT?[/quote]

Because we'd have a better LT. Would instantly be the best bookends in the NFL.

Crazy you may say but some say it was crazy how much we gave up for Griffin. Protect the investment.

Trent played both positions in college.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1061502]Because we'd have a better LT. Would instantly be the best bookends in the NFL.

Crazy you may say but some say it was crazy how much we gave up for Griffin. Protect the investment.

Trent played both positions in college.[/quote]

My guess is that TW would be insulted by a "demotion" to the right side. Why alienate our best lineman?

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Grant Paulsen reporting that Carriker and Rocca are out. Contracts terminated. Should I have put this in the all encompassing thread? Excuse my ignorance, haven't posted in a while

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;1061507]Grant Paulsen reporting that Carriker and Rocca are out. Contracts terminated. Should I have put this in the all encompassing thread? Excuse my ignorance, haven't posted in a while[/quote]

Jawan Jamison, Richard Quinn, Davin Meggett as well

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Wasn't Jamison the RB Shanny was hiding on the PS? Expect to see him in Cleveland.

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Something has to be done about right tackle: now version 6.0.

I prefer the idea of addressing the line in the draft, although I would wait about three weeks and then sign some offensive lineman who can help. The presence of guys like Tom Compton and Josh LeRibeus should mean that the Redskins can avoid spending real money at the position.

If Anthony Collins is going to sign in the first few days of free agency, I'll bend the rules a bit for him. He's a good player, although a bit of a slow developer.

I would expect to get multiple lineman and receivers in the draft, which means my free agency focal point is defense. Orakpo, Hall, and Baker coming back takes a nice chunk of the work out of the free agent shopping.

My main target is Brandon Spikes. I think safety is a bigger need, but Spikes is a better player than any of the available safeties. I also think he's somewhat undervalued as a player. He hasn't been a factor in coverage, but he also hasn't reached the age where linebackers typically become good coverage players.

I really wouldn't be shocked to see Josh Wilson back on a one year deal in the $1.5 million range. The Redskins need a nickel corner, and limiting Wilson's snaps could help with the injury issues he's had the last few years. He's okay out of the slot. Tackles well. I think he's better than he's given credit for, but he got targeted a lot down the stretch and offenses had a ton of success throwing at him. Wilson is actually a great fit for the defense, but the key is that the Redskins can develop Richard Crawford or Chase Minnifield enough to be serious consideration to play if Amerson or Hall misses time.

I like targeting Chris Clemons (Miami safety) to fill the free safety need on a 5 year deal. They really need two safeties, but I'm okay with getting one this year, adding one later in the draft to pair with Thomas and Rambo, and then waiting for the season to see if someone on the roster can handle the second safety. If Jose Gumbs is getting starts with Clemons, then you know you need to sign another guy in 2015.

Then I think they have to go above and beyond just filling holes, and get a good player on the defensive line that takes Bowen's roster spot. They have to get more production out of that position, and even though a salary structure where you are paying Bowen deadcap and another player to actually perform in that spot.

Luckily, the FA class is deep in just two spots: corner and defensive line. Lamarr Houston, Arthur Jones, Vance Walker, Randy Starks, Linval Joseph, Red Bryant, Tony McDaniel, Jason Hatcher can all help. I'd kick the tires on B.J. Raji or Cam Thomas if the price was right.

I'd try to get Sidney Rice coming off ACL reconstruction as the cherry on top of the offseason if the price is right. He's the best receiver on the market by a large margin, and his price will be discounted for his injury history.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1061490]Byrd turned down an offer from the bills that looked to be in the 30M/three year range. I expect he is looking for 35-40M in guarantees. Maybe not the most in the NFL, certainly the highest paid (substantially) safety.

Others think he is worth that. I have my doubts that we can't do fine with a substantially less costly option. Quite frankly, almost any reasonable amount spent will purchase an upgrade over last year's performance at the position.[/quote]I don't think the Redskins are going to end up a finalist on Byrd. He's going to be one of the three highest paid free agents, and I think the Redskins are going to intentionally stay away from that tier of contract.

They'll be in on Ward and Clemons at safety. Both will be costly, but cheaper than Byrd.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1061574]Something has to be done about right tackle: now version 6.0.

[B]So true![/B]

I prefer the idea of addressing the line in the draft, although I would wait about three weeks and then sign some offensive lineman who can help. The presence of guys like Tom Compton and Josh LeRibeus should mean that the Redskins can avoid spending real money at the position.

[B]Agree. Time for Compton and LeRibeus to step up. I think LeRibeus can play but if he comes in overweight again I hope they cut his fat ass on the spot.[/B]

If Anthony Collins is going to sign in the first few days of free agency, I'll bend the rules a bit for him. He's a good player, although a bit of a slow developer.

[B]I would target Collins. Clear upgrade. It would be good to have a player or two on offense who is familiar with Jay Gruden's system.[/B]

I would expect to get multiple lineman and receivers in the draft, which means my free agency focal point is defense. Orakpo, Hall, and Baker coming back takes a nice chunk of the work out of the free agent shopping.

My main target is Brandon Spikes. I think safety is a bigger need, but Spikes is a better player than any of the available safeties. I also think he's somewhat undervalued as a player. He hasn't been a factor in coverage, but he also hasn't reached the age where linebackers typically become good coverage players.

[B]Spikes bothers me because I think he may be a knucklehead.[/B]

I really wouldn't be shocked to see Josh Wilson back on a one year deal in the $1.5 million range. The Redskins need a nickel corner, and limiting Wilson's snaps could help with the injury issues he's had the last few years. He's okay out of the slot. Tackles well. I think he's better than he's given credit for, but he got targeted a lot down the stretch and offenses had a ton of success throwing at him. Wilson is actually a great fit for the defense, but the key is that the Redskins can develop Richard Crawford or Chase Minnifield enough to be serious consideration to play if Amerson or Hall misses time.

I like targeting Chris Clemons (Miami safety) to fill the free safety need on a 5 year deal. They really need two safeties, but I'm okay with getting one this year, adding one later in the draft to pair with Thomas and Rambo, and then waiting for the season to see if someone on the roster can handle the second safety. If Jose Gumbs is getting starts with Clemons, then you know you need to sign another guy in 2015.

[B]Clemons is solid but not a playmaker. He would definitely do. What's your opinion of Mike Mitchell? I have high hopes for Thomas at SS.[/B]

Then I think they have to go above and beyond just filling holes, and get a good player on the defensive line that takes Bowen's roster spot. They have to get more production out of that position, and even though a salary structure where you are paying Bowen deadcap and another player to actually perform in that spot.

[B]This is an excellent point! If the redskins want to get the full value out of re-signing Orakpo, then they need to improve the overall pass rush by getting more pressure from the inside.[/B]

Luckily, the FA class is deep in just two spots: corner and defensive line. Lamarr Houston, Arthur Jones, Vance Walker, Randy Starks, Linval Joseph, Red Bryant, Tony McDaniel, Jason Hatcher can all help. I'd kick the tires on B.J. Raji or Cam Thomas if the price was right.

[B]I'd be happy to have any of these DE's.[/B]

I'd try to get Sidney Rice coming off ACL reconstruction as the cherry on top of the offseason if the price is right. He's the best receiver on the market by a large margin, and his price will be discounted for his injury history.

[B]I'd be skeptical of this signing. When I think Sidney Rice, I think IR.[/B]
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[B]I think this is an excellent analysis. Good job![/B]

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[quote=Mattyk;1061406]My plan would be to avoid jumping into the pool during the initial wave. Focus on the middle tier of available players. Focus on good fits vs names.[/quote]


This is the smart plan and the one Bruce will most likely go with. He is cheap after all.

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Still take D Jackson over Spikes. Spikes is not a factor in the passing game is very nice way to say he is terrible at it, probably the determining reason why the Pats are letting him go. Probably gonna be cheaper than D Quell which is a plus.

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We're not getting D'Qwell Jackson. He's visited 4 teams and is picking from one of them soon. We were not one one them.

He'll be a Dolphin, Colt, Bronco or Titan.


He must really love being in the AFC.

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Yeah, Spikes is a two-down linebacker. Pass.

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[quote=Lotus;1061504]My guess is that TW would be insulted by a "demotion" to the right side. [B]Why alienate our best lineman?[/B][/quote]

With a lineman who isn't as good.

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[quote=Lotus;1061606]Yeah, Spikes is a two-down linebacker. Pass.[/quote]

Agreed. Keenan Robinson hasn't shown well enough that he can be counted on to come in on 3rd down and cover reliably. Spikes doesn't fit with us.

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Redskins | Adam Carriker will get chance
Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:52:44 -0800
Updating a previous report, free-agent DE Adam Carriker (Redskins) (quadriceps) will "very likely" receive a chance to prove his health to the Washington Redskins in June, according to three sources.

Comment | Source: ESPN980 - Chris Russell | Share:

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I'd argue that Spikes absolutely fits the Redskins because of the emphasis that we place on stopping the run. Spikes is only 26 years old and paired with a coverage linebacker like Christian Jones could greatly improve our defense.

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[quote=Lotus;1061504]My guess is that TW would be insulted by a "demotion" to the right side. Why alienate our best lineman?[/quote]

Considering TW is one of the best 3 LT in the game moving him and not some one else to the RT spot is ludicris.

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Yeah Trent isn't moving to RT, just stop.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1061612]Redskins | Adam Carriker will get chance
Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:52:44 -0800
Updating a previous report, free-agent DE Adam Carriker (Redskins) (quadriceps) will "very likely" receive a chance to prove his health to the Washington Redskins in June, according to three sources.

Comment | Source: ESPN980 - Chris Russell | Share:[/quote]

No harm in bringing him back in a few months. He admits himself he's not 100% yet but hopes to be by camp.

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Time to move on from Carriker. He hasn't played in a game in years.

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[quote=Mattyk;1061635]Yeah Trent isn't moving to RT, just stop.[/quote]

and the Redskins cannot afford to pay for 2 left tackles

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1061622]I'd argue that Spikes absolutely fits the Redskins because of the emphasis that we place on stopping the run. Spikes is only 26 years old and paired with a coverage linebacker like Christian Jones could greatly improve our defense.[/quote]

i just moved back to the DMV area and heard cooley break down the FA class.

it was an awesome segment with insight ive never heard on the radio or anywhere else.

i think i heard ti right when cooley said that spikes is very limited in what assignments a D Coord can give him. cooley basically said that he gets taken out in nicle packages, cant play zone, cant play man on a TE and is limited to a flat zone read only.

if anyone heard this segment and i got something wrong let me know. it was just as i was getting in the car, etc.

cooley really likes dansby for awareness and nose for the football but said he will probably stay with AZ on a team friendly K.

he also liked a LB guy from the ravens as well.

ps - just read the previous posts/pages and spikes limited pass play has been talked ad nauseum. sorry for beating a dead horse.

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[quote=over the mountain;1061647]
[B]cooley really likes dansby for awareness and nose for the football but said he will probably stay with AZ on a team friendly K.
[/B]
he also liked a LB guy from the ravens as well.

ps - just read the previous posts/pages and spikes limited pass play has been talked ad nauseum. sorry for beating a dead horse.[/quote]

I have always liked Dansby. He is a real LB. I know he is old for a football player, but the guy can play.

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nevermind on dansby imo.

i thought he would be contract friendly (5 mil per or less) since he signed a 1 year 2.25 mil K last year but he is hinting at wanting big money now.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/arizona-cardinals/post/_/id/4623/dansby-wants-his-worth-in-free-agency]Karlos Dansby wants his worth in free agency - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1061635]Yeah Trent isn't moving to RT, [B]just stop[/B].[/quote]

10 years+ running the site and you are even moderately shocked by the inanity of fans? That, in itself, is shocking.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1061622]I'd argue that Spikes absolutely fits the Redskins because of the emphasis that we place on stopping the run. Spikes is only 26 years old and paired with a coverage linebacker like Christian Jones could greatly improve our defense.[/quote]

He doesn't fit the Redskins if we don't have a reliable cover guy who we can put in on 3rd down. Our strengths are fine and dandy, but you get burned for TDs because you have weak links.

Do you think we have someone who could come in on 3rd down and not be considered a weak link in coverage?

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[quote=Schneed10;1061660]He doesn't fit the Redskins if we don't have a reliable cover guy who we can put in on 3rd down. Our strengths are fine and dandy, but you get burned for TDs because you have weak links.

Do you think we have someone who could come in on 3rd down and not be considered a weak link in coverage?[/quote]

If healthy, does Keenan Robinson fit that description?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1061658]10 years+ running the site and you are even moderately shocked by the inanity of fans? That, in itself, is shocking.[/quote]

Not shocked at all.

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Guys I have a brilliant idea. Let's sign a top 12ish LT and move our current top 6ish LT to the less important RT position.

In the immortal words of Matty... "don't quit your day job".

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[quote=Paintrain;1061665]If healthy, does Keenan Robinson fit that description?[/quote]

Who knows? The "if healthy" part never happens.

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[quote=Schneed10;1061660]He doesn't fit the Redskins if we don't have a reliable cover guy who we can put in on 3rd down. Our strengths are fine and dandy, but you get burned for TDs because you have weak links.

Do you think we have someone who could come in on 3rd down and not be considered a weak link in coverage?[/quote]

I think you read the part about Spikes and not the part about Jones. Jones is the best coverage linebacker in the draft.

A lot of fans look at players in real life like Madden. If a player can cover, tackle, and stop the run- sideline to sideline they won't be a free agent. Spike is an intimidator at the ILB position and wants to be a 3 down LB. If Kirk can coach him up and help him to be a better player at 26 years of age. We can solidify the linebacker core for at least 3-5 years.

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[quote=Schneed10;1061660]He doesn't fit the Redskins if we don't have a reliable cover guy who we can put in on 3rd down. Our strengths are fine and dandy, but you get burned for TDs because you have weak links.

Do you think we have someone who could come in on 3rd down and not be considered a weak link in coverage?[/quote]

The Skins haven't had an ILB that could cover in about 4 yrs, Fletcher has been a liability in coverage for that long. So, any instinctive ILB that is mobile and can stay on the field in passing situations is welcome.

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Sign if possible:

TJ Ward
Verner
I would love Mack
Smith LB previously with Ravens
Also go after Davon Bess, Browns just released him

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My two cents:
Free agents with guesstimated cap hits:
WR Brandon LaFell 5
T Anthony Collins 5
ILB D’Qwell Jackson 6
ILB Perry Riley 5
FS Mike Mitchell 6
FA signing total: $27 mil.

Obviously I am presuming that the axe will fall to create cap space.

Draft:
trade 2nd round pick down to middle of second round, picking up extra mid-third rounder – then:
C Marcus Martin 2/50
WR Donte Moncrief 3/66
G Dakota Dozier 3/80
NG Daniel McCullers 4/98
DE Brent Urban 5/130
TE Richard Rodgers 6/162
CB Andre Hal 7/194