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EARTHQUAKE2689 09-09-2014 12:42 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=mooby;1081762]Lol, 26 years old, 5th year pro = long in the tooth.[/quote]

Time to find his replacement I say, especially at this point of his LONG career, can't hold on to him for too long.

hagams 09-09-2014 04:29 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Helu letting that punt get blocked reminded me of this year's Hard Knocks show. If you guys didn't catch the episode where ATL's ST coach goes nuts on a rookie RB, you need to watch it. "Your not good enough to be an a@@hole!".

The biggest positive from this week is that every other team in the NFC East lost.

HailGreen28 09-09-2014 05:18 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=hagams;1081769]Helu letting that punt get blocked reminded me of this year's Hard Knocks show. If you guys didn't catch the episode where ATL's ST coach goes nuts on a rookie RB, you need to watch it. "Your not good enough to be an a@@hole!".

The biggest positive from this week is that every other team in the NFC East lost.[/quote]Eagles won.

htownskinfan 09-09-2014 08:50 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Positives
Morris looked great and run blocking was good also
I thought RG3 looked good overall
Andre Roberts looks good receiving and returning kicks

Negatives
So many to list where to start
Pass blocking was awful
Special teams awful
Coaching was awful

I just finished watching nfl rewind,out of the 18 rushing plays between Morris and Helu only twice were they stopped for little or no gain,most of the other rushes were for over 5 yards,Gruden should not have gotten away from it.
Gruden needs to step up his game

NC_Skins 09-09-2014 08:56 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Here is a play that stands out that most people would blame Polumbus for. While Polumbus does get beat, I want you to notice the pocket that is formed up front. A QB has to step up into the pocket to make those throws and buy himself time. Notice that Robert doesn't slide forward and hence the pressure. You can't expect Polumbus to block Watt on a 1 on 1 basis. Most of the time in the NFL, the QB has a way of making the OL look good.



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NC_Skins 09-09-2014 09:03 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Stole this from /r/Redskins.

[B][SIZE="3"]Some PFF notes on the Texans game (positives & negatives) [/SIZE][/B]
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[I]As always, players are compared among those with over 25% of snaps.

Not including the 2 Monday night games.[/I]
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[B]The Positives:[/B]
[LIST]
Robert Griffin III had the 2nd highest completion rate (78.4%) among QB's. His 267 yards and 96.7 passer rating were 11th. We were guinea pigs to the Texans D, just like we were guinea pigs to the Eagles O last year.[/LIST][LIST] Signature Stats: The good: RG3 was #1/28 in accuracy (91% accounting for drops, throwaways, spikes, batted passes, & hits as thrown). He was #4/28 in accuracy under pressure, and #5/28 in PFF's adjusted passer rating. The bad: He had the 3rd longest avg time to throw (2.93 seconds). It seems his accuracy was good BECAUSE he waited so long for the perfect opportunities. Peyton Manning is still #1 in time to throw, and Andy Dalton #2.[/LIST][LIST]Andre Roberts graded #3/53 among kick/punt returners FUCK YEAH. His 18 yds/punt return is 2nd, and his 28 yds/kick return is 7th.[/LIST][LIST]Our punter Tress Way graded #6/28 YEAH MUCH IMPROVED[/LIST][LIST] Our receivers had 0 drops, after being top 5 in drops for the last two years.[/LIST][LIST]Our DE's are way better: Jason Hatcher graded #5/44, Chris Baker #20/44, Jarvis Jenkins #29/44. That's much better than last year when all our DE's were graded in the bottom 25th percentile. If Cofield played (ankle sprain) instead of Jenkins, they would've been that much better.[/LIST][LIST]Our ILB's are way better: Keenan Robinson graded #6/46, Perry Riley #22/46. Keenan Robinson allowed 1 of 4 passes for 6 yds (and he's our highest graded ST's player). Last year London Fletcher was dead last among 100 ILB's (respect, only because of old age).[/LIST][LIST]Kory Lichtensteiger graded #5/30 among Centers.[/LIST][LIST]Our run defense held Arian Foster to 3.8 yds/carry (PFF actually graded him -5.0 hahaha). Last year PFF graded our run defense 31st so that looks much improved.[/LIST][LIST] Alfred Morris ran 6.5 yds/carry (5th), and Roy Helu ran 11.5 yds/carry (although his blocking was questionable).[/LIST][LIST]Jarvis Jenkins was penalized on a late hit to Ryan Fitzpatrick... Who cares? I'm glad our 2nd round pick is finally making it to the QB, good for him. Questionable call anyway.[/LIST][LIST]Niles Paul caught 86 yds, 2nd among TE's only to Julius Thomas (see: 3 TD catches in the first half).[/LIST][LIST] Jadeveon Clowney got 0 QB pressures on 13 rushes.[/LIST][LIST]Polumbus was graded #5/60Idon'tknowwhybutItrustthem. His run blocking was 8th, and his pass blocking was 24th.[/LIST]
[B]The Medium:[/B]
[LIST] Rak, Kerrigan, and Murphy were graded average and didn't do much, but I think its because the Texans ran the ball so much since they had the lead. But not every game will be like that. Orakpo only pass rushed on 12 of 20 pass plays. Wtf is he afraid to take on elite LT's? Kerrigan rushed on 21 of 24.[/LIST][LIST]Guards Chester and Lauvao graded about average.[/LIST]
[B]The Negatives:[/B]
[LIST]Cofield right ankle sprain[/LIST][LIST]Jordan Reed hamstring strain[/LIST][LIST] Our secondary is still very bad: PFF graded our Safeties in the bottom 10th percentile, and our CB's in the 60-70th percentile (both about the same as last year).[/LIST][LIST] Logan Paulsen graded #43/49, as always[/LIST]

CRedskinsRule 09-09-2014 09:33 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
So, now all Skins fans are in favor of abolishing the extra point, am I right??

KI Skins Fan 09-09-2014 09:39 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1081793]Here is a play that stands out that most people would blame Polumbus for. While Polumbus does get beat, I want you to notice the pocket that is formed up front. A QB has to step up into the pocket to make those throws and buy himself time. Notice that Robert doesn't slide forward and hence the pressure. You can't expect Polumbus to block Watt on a 1 on 1 basis. Most of the time in the NFL, the QB has a way of making the OL look good.[/quote]

Yes, you make a good, well-illustrated point. I think we need to be able to accept that there are many fundamentals of playing QB, especially in the NFL, that Robert hasn't yet learned. He got by largely on his exceptional talent before now. Now, he is being taught those fundamentals and he must learn them on the job. That means we're going to see uneven play from him for a while.

On the other hand, as he continues to develop his fundamentals and pairs those skills with his athletic gifts we should also start to see him make more big plays and fewer negative plays.

Although I have some concerns about his judgement and instincts as a QB at this point, I also believe that he is a bright man who is working hard to improve. He wants to be the best but he must develop a stronger foundation of QB skills in order to become the best. Once playing the position the right way becomes second nature to him, he can leave behind the over-thinking and hesitating and let his talent express itself.

I have no idea how long it might take for him to get to that point. It might even be next season. Nevertheless, I think he is good enough to win with right now as long as he and the other players eliminate the most egregious of the negative plays that have plagued us as a team.

Chico23231 09-09-2014 09:47 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1081794]Stole this from /r/Redskins.

[B][SIZE="3"]Some PFF notes on the Texans game (positives & negatives) [/SIZE][/B]
---------------------------------------------------------------
[I]As always, players are compared among those with over 25% of snaps.

Not including the 2 Monday night games.[/I]
---------------------------------------------------------------
[B]The Positives:[/B]
[LIST]
Robert Griffin III had the 2nd highest completion rate (78.4%) among QB's. His 267 yards and 96.7 passer rating were 11th. We were guinea pigs to the Texans D, just like we were guinea pigs to the Eagles O last year.[/LIST][LIST] Signature Stats: The good: RG3 was #1/28 in accuracy (91% accounting for drops, throwaways, spikes, batted passes, & hits as thrown). He was #4/28 in accuracy under pressure, and #5/28 in PFF's adjusted passer rating. The bad: He had the 3rd longest avg time to throw (2.93 seconds). It seems his accuracy was good BECAUSE he waited so long for the perfect opportunities. Peyton Manning is still #1 in time to throw, and Andy Dalton #2.[/LIST][LIST]Andre Roberts graded #3/53 among kick/punt returners FUCK YEAH. His 18 yds/punt return is 2nd, and his 28 yds/kick return is 7th.[/LIST][LIST]Our punter Tress Way graded #6/28 YEAH MUCH IMPROVED[/LIST][LIST] Our receivers had 0 drops, after being top 5 in drops for the last two years.[/LIST][LIST]Our DE's are way better: Jason Hatcher graded #5/44, Chris Baker #20/44, Jarvis Jenkins #29/44. That's much better than last year when all our DE's were graded in the bottom 25th percentile. If Cofield played (ankle sprain) instead of Jenkins, they would've been that much better.[/LIST][LIST]Our ILB's are way better: Keenan Robinson graded #6/46, Perry Riley #22/46. Keenan Robinson allowed 1 of 4 passes for 6 yds (and he's our highest graded ST's player). Last year London Fletcher was dead last among 100 ILB's (respect, only because of old age).[/LIST][LIST]Kory Lichtensteiger graded #5/30 among Centers.[/LIST][LIST]Our run defense held Arian Foster to 3.8 yds/carry (PFF actually graded him -5.0 hahaha). Last year PFF graded our run defense 31st so that looks much improved.[/LIST][LIST] Alfred Morris ran 6.5 yds/carry (5th), and Roy Helu ran 11.5 yds/carry (although his blocking was questionable).[/LIST][LIST]Jarvis Jenkins was penalized on a late hit to Ryan Fitzpatrick... Who cares? I'm glad our 2nd round pick is finally making it to the QB, good for him. Questionable call anyway.[/LIST][LIST]Niles Paul caught 86 yds, 2nd among TE's only to Julius Thomas (see: 3 TD catches in the first half).[/LIST][LIST] Jadeveon Clowney got 0 QB pressures on 13 rushes.[/LIST][LIST]Polumbus was graded #5/60Idon'tknowwhybutItrustthem. His run blocking was 8th, and his pass blocking was 24th.[/LIST]
[B]The Medium:[/B]
[LIST] Rak, Kerrigan, and Murphy were graded average and didn't do much, but I think its because the Texans ran the ball so much since they had the lead. But not every game will be like that. Orakpo only pass rushed on 12 of 20 pass plays. Wtf is he afraid to take on elite LT's? Kerrigan rushed on 21 of 24.[/LIST][LIST]Guards Chester and Lauvao graded about average.[/LIST]
[B]The Negatives:[/B]
[LIST]Cofield right ankle sprain[/LIST][LIST]Jordan Reed hamstring strain[/LIST][LIST] Our secondary is still very bad: PFF graded our Safeties in the bottom 10th percentile, and our CB's in the 60-70th percentile (both about the same as last year).[/LIST][LIST] Logan Paulsen graded #43/49, as always[/LIST][/quote]

Hard to understand the Chester, Kory and Polumbus rating.

But finally to have some true stats to what I saw from RG3 holding the ball too long. He needs to learn to trust his eyes, read the d properly and make a decisive throw. Passing concepts like "throwing a guy open" "throwing to spots" "throwing before the reciever gets his head around or before coming out his break" need to be incorporated.

CRedskinsRule 09-09-2014 10:40 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
NC_Skins, that's a nice picture of it. My only question (I really don't know) is that from the screen shots Watt is around Polumbus in 1 second and at Griffin's feet, and Griffin is already in a quick throw motion. If it was a quick pass, where Griffin is just supposed to release it within 3 seconds, and Polumbus didn't hold his block for even that second, does that change your opinion. Obviously, I don't have a hand timer, so only looking at the seconds that have elapsed from shot two to shot 3, but that doesn't really change my question. If the QB expects to drop set throw in 3 seconds, should a RT be able to hold a pocket that long?

MTK 09-09-2014 10:51 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1081805]NC_Skins, that's a nice picture of it. My only question (I really don't know) is that from the screen shots Watt is around Polumbus in 1 second and at Griffin's feet, and Griffin is already in a quick throw motion. If it was a quick pass, where Griffin is just supposed to release it within 3 seconds, and Polumbus didn't hold his block for even that second, does that change your opinion. Obviously, I don't have a hand timer, so only looking at the seconds that have elapsed from shot two to shot 3, but that doesn't really change my question. If the QB expects to drop set throw in 3 seconds, should a RT be able to hold a pocket that long?[/quote]

Exactly what I was thinking. If it was a quick pass play climbing the pocket makes no sense. If it was a longer developing play ok, of course it makes sense for him to step up.

Lotus 09-09-2014 11:02 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1081797]So, now all Skins fans are in favor of abolishing the extra point, am I right??[/quote]

Actually I'm in favor of getting a kicker who will kick the PAT high enough to clear the line. Watt made a good play but that kick was way low.

WillH 09-09-2014 11:04 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Yeah, I see that too, but I wonder if that takes into account scrambles?


[quote=Chico23231;1081799]Hard to understand the Chester, Kory and Polumbus rating.

But finally to have some true stats to what I saw from RG3 holding the ball too long. He needs to learn to trust his eyes, read the d properly and make a decisive throw. Passing concepts like "throwing a guy open" "throwing to spots" "throwing before the reciever gets his head around or before coming out his break" need to be incorporated.[/quote]

NC_Skins 09-09-2014 11:09 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1081805]NC_Skins, that's a nice picture of it. My only question (I really don't know) is that from the screen shots Watt is around Polumbus in 1 second and at Griffin's feet, and Griffin is already in a quick throw motion. If it was a quick pass, where Griffin is just supposed to release it within 3 seconds, and Polumbus didn't hold his block for even that second, does that change your opinion. Obviously, I don't have a hand timer, so only looking at the seconds that have elapsed from shot two to shot 3, but that doesn't really change my question. If the QB expects to drop set throw in 3 seconds, should a RT be able to hold a pocket that long?[/quote]

In that situation, it's more on the QB to avoid the DE by stepping up into the pocket and making the throw. RT/LTs push the edge rushers out and back as far as possible. The interior will solidify the point of attack at the line of scrimmage and this creates that pocket for QBs to work in. It's a small tight window and something I'm sure is hard to perfect.

NC_Skins 09-09-2014 11:11 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=Mattyk;1081808]Exactly what I was thinking. If it was a quick pass play climbing the pocket makes no sense. If it was a longer developing play ok, of course it makes sense for him to step up.[/quote]


Looking at the routes being ran, it would appear it was a short pass play.

edit: Just noticed it was shotgun formation. Damn.

irish 09-09-2014 11:16 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
RG3's completion percentage and QB rating are very misleading. His passes werent much more than long handoffs so the stats make it look like his passing had more of an impact on the game than it really did.

I thought the D played well enough to allow the team to win but its going to be difficult to win games when the offense can score.

WillH 09-09-2014 11:17 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1081816]Since Griff is 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage, that play was most likely a 7 step drop back, which isn't a quick pass type of situation.

edit: Just noticed it was shotgun formation. Damn.[/quote]


I We going to say it was shotgun but you beat me to it.

Anyways beside Polombus having no shot of stopping Watt, why is the RB not helping to double team HIM?

KI Skins Fan 09-09-2014 11:44 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
I understand why the coaches didn't give more attention to blocking Watt. The Skins even tried to block Watt with a TE one-on-one, as if that was going to work. When Clowney went out of the game, it should have been a no brainer to double-team Watt.

hagams 09-09-2014 11:44 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
What impressed me most about this game is JJ Watt. That dude is a freaking monster. I guess that is what a 100 million dollar DL looks like. Thanks again fat Albert.

CRedskinsRule 09-09-2014 11:53 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Looking at the 3 screens again, and remembering the drills that we saw Orakpo and Kerrigan doing where they painted the path to take on the field, it looks like Watt took a perfect path to Griffin. First pic, he is lined up on the hash marks, shaded insided. 2nd pic, he is engaged with Polumbus but still on the hash marks, meaning Polumbus didn't get any push toward the sideline away from Griffin. 3rd pic, he is attacking Griffin at exactly the 7 yd mark and Polumbus is chasing him at that point. Griffin was actually in the pistol, meaning he got the ball and took two steps back, looked left (probably to draw the safety away) then was at the midpoint of his release when Watt got there. Ideally (I think) from pic#2's position, you would either want Watt to be about a yard toward the sideline, a yard deeper than the qb and having to come back toward Griffin.

Good point about the RB, but it looks like he was to release underneath and if so he wouldn't be in a position to get an outside chip.

Polumbus grades high as a run blocker, but the coaches have to know he can't set an edge on any speed rusher. (I don't think Moses or Compton can either :( )

FRPLG 09-09-2014 11:55 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Watt basically won that game. He's going to do that this year. He owned the game.

skinsfan69 09-09-2014 11:58 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1081822]I understand why the coaches didn't give more attention to blocking Watt. The Skins even tried to block Watt with a TE one-on-one, as if that was going to work. When Clowney went out of the game, it should have been a no brainer to double-team Watt.[/quote]

I was very unimpressed with that entire game plan. From the playcalling, to the lack of attention paid to Watt, 0 designed runs for Griffin. It was Jim Zorn part 2. Oh, and don't get me started on that shitty reverse call deep in our own territory. Hopefully we'll see some improvements next week. Let's get DJax down the field a bit more, let's get RG3 on the move, and for god sakes, coach his ass up and get him to stop BACK-PEDDLING!

skinsfan69 09-09-2014 12:01 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=FRPLG;1081834]Watt basically won that game. He's going to do that this year. He owned the game.[/quote]

I'm not ready to call him Reggie White as a few of those sacks were on Griffin. He pushed around our line a bit, but wasn't that to be expected? We made some plays on him in the run game. I would've liked to see Gruden have some designed rollouts to the left side and go away from him.

CRedskinsRule 09-09-2014 12:10 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
One more comparison.

Look at those 3 pictures again, BUT focus on TWilliams side. Pic 1 the line up is fairly mirrored of Watt/Polumbus. Pic 2 Trent is engaged and winning, Polumbus is engaged, but Watt is really nearly passed him. Pic 3 Trent is smoking a cigar, the Right Guard is looking for who else he can feed to Trent, and Polumbus is about a yard behind Watt.

We know Polumbus isn't Williams, and their other DE isn't Watt so obviously Trent should win his matchup, but just pointing out another way to look at those slides.

44Deezel 09-09-2014 12:10 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1081839]I'm not ready to call him Reggie White as a few of those sacks were on Griffin. He pushed around our line a bit, but wasn't that to be expected? We made some plays on him in the run game. I would've liked to see Gruden have some designed rollouts to the left side and go away from him.[/quote]

QBs are under duress all over the league, and RG3 is no different. Plenty of big slow QBs are able to react quickly, step up and/or to the side and buy time to make a throw downfield. Stafford did it a bunch just last night. Just watch some other games. The contrast is stark.

It's not speed, but reaction time. RG3 did a much better job of reacting sooner in the 2nd half, but he stills opts to go backwards and roll out vs. taking the lane right in front of him. There's no reason he should have been outrushed by Ryan Fitzpatrick. There were yards to be gained, but he either reacted too late or, for whatever reason, did not want to cross the line of scrimmage under any circumstances.

Bucket 09-09-2014 12:30 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1081816]Looking at the routes being ran, it would appear it was a short pass play.

edit: Just noticed it was shotgun formation. Damn.[/quote]

You had the right idea though. Robert needs to climb the pocket more. The one play I remember was the intentional grounding play. He should of stepped up in the pocket instead of running in to JJ Watt, but hindsight is always 20/20.

Redskin Warrior 09-09-2014 12:42 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Let's not forget RG3 is in transition to BECOME a pocket passer. I think folks are to quick to judge his performance. He needs reps, live game reps to get comfortable with the new scheme and as a quarterback. I didn't and I don't expect him to light it up straight out the gate. I also didn't and don't expect J. Gruden to be Coach of the Year either. I want the Skins to win just as much as the man but I understand this team needs time to gel and mesh together. Time to start lower expectations ppl my issue would be if RG3 regresses more than he progresses to early to tell.

44Deezel 09-09-2014 12:49 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=FRPLG;1081834]Watt basically won that game. He's going to do that this year. He owned the game.[/quote]

That's a 5 win team that will get dominated most of the season. Nothing he did justifies 6 points.

KI Skins Fan 09-09-2014 02:17 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1081837]I was very unimpressed with that entire game plan. From the playcalling, to the lack of attention paid to Watt, 0 designed runs for Griffin. It was Jim Zorn part 2. Oh, and don't get me started on that shitty reverse call deep in our own territory. Hopefully we'll see some improvements next week. Let's get DJax down the field a bit more, let's get RG3 on the move, and for god sakes, coach his ass up and get him to stop BACK-PEDDLING![/quote]

Agree with you about the game plan. It was weak. Jay Gruden needs to improve and he knows it.

Robert is going to take a little longer. He needs some time to get rid of old, bad habits and to feel comfortable doing things the right way.

tc2deuce 09-09-2014 02:20 PM

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Eric Winston is looking for a job but for some reason Tyler Polumbus is on our roster!?!?

KI Skins Fan 09-09-2014 02:22 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;1081834]Watt basically won that game. He's going to do that this year. He owned the game.[/quote]

That game was [U]lost[/U], not won.

SirLK26 09-09-2014 03:02 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1081872]Agree with you about the game plan. It was weak. Jay Gruden needs to improve and he knows it.

Robert is going to take a little longer. He needs some time to get rid of old, bad habits and to feel comfortable doing things the right way.[/quote]

I thought the game plan was fine, and executed nicely as well.

This game really came down to the stupid mistakes. We lost, like you said... they didn't win. If Helu had blocked Blue, Paul hadn't fumbled, and Griffin hadn't tripped over Lichtensteiger's foot, we would have won the game and nobody would be complaining about the game plan.

Sure, we could have went with longer routes, but Griffin was already getting hit like it was. It would have been really ugly if he had started waiting 4 seconds for Jackson to get open downfield.

Perhaps we should have ran more, but if you take away the plays in the two-minute drills, the run-pass ratio was fairly close. If I counted right, the ratio outside those two minute drills was 23 passes(not counting the plays that were penalized), and 17 rushes. It's not like Gruden was heaving the ball all over the place. And if we had had the lead for most of the game, I'm sure we would have ran way more.

Also, I made this point already Sunday I believe, but Reed going down hurt as much as anything. I'm sure he was a key part of the game plan.

In the end, to me at least, it came down to two things: boneheaded plays and JJ Watt.

donofriose 09-09-2014 03:03 PM

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[quote=tc2deuce;1081873]Eric Winston is looking for a job but for some reason Tyler Polumbus is on our roster!?!?[/quote]

Not saying Polumbus is better but there is a reason why Winston is always looking for a job.

over the mountain 09-09-2014 03:04 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
i tempered my disappoint in the play calling since i heard RG3's presser, Keim and others say the texans D played deep dropping 2-3 back almost every single play and forced a short pass game plan.

the Texans D scheme should have been perfect for us since we were going into the game with a short passing scheme but alas, turnovers in the RZ and the fact that we cant sustain long drives without getting a sack or some other screw up.

That Guy 09-09-2014 03:05 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
RGIII spent too much time looking at the rush and not enough time looking downfield. that was my take away from watching the game.

however, if you take away the turnovers, we could have won even with the other issues. so there's hope, but there's some work to do before the team is ready for prime time.

NC_Skins 09-09-2014 04:24 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Turnovers were the main reason we lost. You can't give up the ball twice in the redzone and expect to win.



Good notes from Keim on Orakpo's pressure throughout the game.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/10772/under-review-brian-orakpos-rush?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Under review: Washington Redskins Brian Orakpo's rush - ESPN[/url]

VegasMax 09-09-2014 09:16 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1081898]Turnovers was the main reason we lost. You can't give up the ball twice in the redzone and expect to win.
[/quote]

They were real killers. 2 great possessions to start the 2nd half, could have easily been 2 big TDs. Instead, nothing. Just absolutely killed us,

NC_Skins 09-10-2014 12:39 AM

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[url=http://imgur.com/a/aftVu]09.07.14 Texans vs Washington - Imgur[/url]

Some pictures from /r/Redskins that were shot for the Houston press.

44Deezel 09-10-2014 07:20 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
For everyone blaming the O-line for everything, here's a play that happens just about every game. Stafford gets pressured immediately, steps up, slides to the left and buys enough time to complete a pass downfield. ALL QBs get pressured constantly, not just RG3:

:58 mark. Nice play by Stafford about :30 into it as well.

[url=http://www.detroitlions.com/media-center/videos/Lions-vs-Giants-full-highlights/9c4a98b7-eecd-4697-a856-66f6644041db]Lions vs. Giants full highlights[/url]

Polumbus may not be all world, but as Cooley pointed out in his film breakdown yesterday, Robert routinely puts him in bad situations and makes him look worse than he is as a result. Like Zoolander, he can't go left;)

MTK 09-10-2014 08:16 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
I thought Griffin played well under pressure for the most part. Especially after watching it again. He completed several passes with guys in his face and he did so with accuracy too.


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