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[quote=Irrefutable;1086607]add Orakpo, he is crazy if he thinks he is an elite OLB[/quote]

I give him pass since he was playing on basically one hand

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1086608]I give him pass since he was playing on basically one hand[/QUOTE]


What about all the other games he doesnt show up for over the years. Being injury prone on top of being not so good doesnt earn you a pass and it certainly doesnt earn you a big contract b

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[quote=Schneed10;1086605]I think the Eagles game took a ton out of us. We looked slow off the ball on both lines of scrimmage to me. And Cousins was staring down receivers.

We're also too thin at the moment due to injuries. I still think we have good games ahead of us but it will take more than a good game to beat our next opponent: Seattle.

The sky isn't falling but yeah, we're just not there yet.[/quote]

I don't want to use injuries as an excuse, but as a below average team we cannot afford all the injuries we have. I think this was a perfect storm of injuries, our inability to play well in prime time, and just having a bad game coming all together at the worst possible moment.

I hate what I saw out there, but what do we expect when we are all so banged up. Breeland looked good as the third corner, but not as the starter. Hatcher is not 100%, I think Jenkins was beat up. Our already terrible o-line was already down one starter and may be down another. And we have a competent backup, but he's still the backup.

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Cousins need to learn how to pump fake.

This has to be one of the hardest years to be a Redskins fan. We get killed everywhere for the name all year and recently on South Park. Then the team rewards us for loyalty with a shitty product on the field. smh.
The Skins must have some great Cool-aid at Redskins park because they always seem to think they are better than they are and fool us all the time. Haz should be fired. In the after game interview Manning said that we made NO ADJUSTMENTS and the Giants had the defense figured out from the start. How many times do they need to hear the same effing quotes before they figure it out!

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Plus Rak being mic'ed up was pathetic. He sounded like a loser.

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It's pretty simple. This team/franchise fails because it's in their nature to fail. It's in the DNA, from the front office on down. There are no winners here, none. None who give enough of a crap to care. None who will do the work and make the sacrificies to get things done. It's been this way for 20+ years so why anyone thinks it's every going to change is beyond me.

Players continue to make the same stupid mistakes. The front office makes stupid mistakes and stubbornly refuses to build any depth whatsoever. And fans continue to hope. It's remarkable, reading people's posts last night and today, listening to fans and the sycophants on local radio, how things change radically.

Two weeks ago, after the team's first win after [U]nine[/U] straight losses going back to last year, you'd think this team was 5-0 and rocking and rolling the way people talked. They beat the horrificlly bad Jaguars, and suddenly the offense is unstoppable, the defense is 85-Bearish and the coaches are geniuses, unlike the evil Shanahans who drove this franchise into the ground, as if it wasn't already six feet under when they got here. Cousins was the next coming of the franchise QB, people keep conveniently blocking out his mediocre to bad performances prior to this season...I saw everything from people predicting 9-7/10-6/11-5 records and playoffs...uh huh.

Then reality set in when the team played you know, a professional NFL team last week. Albeit one with a poor secondary. So Cousins continued to look like a world beater until Philly started putting pressure on him. Oops. That ended the comparisons to Joe Montana, compounded by the disgraceful performance last night...

Then another prime time embarrassment, in a "home" game where large chunks of the crowd were again in the oppositions colors. Cousins looked worse than Grossman on HIS worst day. The defense was comically bad. The coaches were again outclassed and clueless.

None of this will end anytime soon. With Seattle and Arizona next, this team will be 1-5 and probably will end with at least 10-12 losses again for yet another subpar campaign. The franchise QB that they stupidly traded away the world for, is so fragile he's at the point where he could get out of his car for practice and something will tear or snap. Cousins is what he is, a 4th round pick with very limited potential. The special teams and defense are laughably bad.

The Seattle game on MNF will at least add to the recent string of prime time disasters/embarrassment. This whole team needs to be blown up and sunk in the Bay and then rebuilt like an expansion team, but unfortunately that won't happen.

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[quote=Skins4L;1086581]Google "great qbs who have thrown 4 ints" i just did it made me feel better everyone try 2nd link lol[/quote]

Maybe you should also look up nobody QBs who have thrown for 3 or more TDs for a little balance. Doesn't Matt Flynn hold the Packers record for most TD passes in a game. I'm pretty sure Josh McCowen should still be a backup. What ever happened to John Skelton? I'm guessing the ratio for backups throwing a slew of interceptions in single game has trended much higher than prolific starters too. 5 out of 11 games in his brief career Cousins has thrown 2 or more ints. And 8 out of those 11 games he has turned it over atleast once. Sounds a lot like the Rex Grossman effect to me. In contrast, Robert in his second year, undoubtedly his worst, threw for 2 ints or more (but never more) in 2 out of 13 games, and turned the ball over atleast once 10 out of 13 games. I don't believe that stats tell the whole story by any means, but I do believe if you're going to use stats they should be used diversely.

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Unfortunately I have to agree. Somehow the culture of losing remains strong despite making changes with the coaching staff. Is it a coincidence that this is the case, or perhaps the losing starts at the very tip top. Frustration is at an all time high, and words really can't express how I feel as a lifelong Skins fan and former season ticket holder (moved away from the D.C. area).

I think I am just tired of hoping so much, only to have the team continually underperform. Or perhaps I just expect too much from a team that really doesn't have what it takes. Defensively this is definitely a real possibility. I think our performance last night and the weeks prior (minus the Jacksonville game against the DIII Jaguars) proves that Jim Haslett's ability to put together and lead an elite defensive in the league is gone. We run around the field as if we are chickens with our heads cut off; running hard and in the wrong directions. There is no discipline. Can we please just admit that the defense needs new leadership!

With regards to the offense, well, I have to admit I have been a proponent of Kirk Cousins since I saw him in the preseason his rookie season. I've never fully bought into the RGIII hype, and have been calling for Kirk to get an opportunity ever since his rookie year. With this being said, I think we can forgive the bad performance last night, but what worries me is Kirk's demeanor on the sideline, and his subsequent inability to rally the team when things went from bad to worse. We need leadership, and we are obviously not getting it from the coaches, so someone has to step up, and it really should come from the quarterback.

This team is just like the teams of the past decade and a half, full of potential with a pension for underperforming at all costs. Is it too much to ask for a little consistency and a team that plays together? Where does this lack of discipline and culture of losing stem from? Can it really be the coaching staff, or does it start at the tip of the spear? We all know the owner is the person calling the personnel shots with regards to the coaching staff, and perhaps Jay Gruden is the right guy, but for some reason the cancerous ownership that is Dan Snyder will always prevail, preventing any possibility for a consistent, championship level team.

I wish I could just look the other way and avoid watching, because this would save me a lot of heartache and frustration, but I am a diehard and have been since I was a little kid. You can't help who or what you love, and I just can't help that I am a diehard skins fan, I just wish we had the right leadership at the top, in order to trickle down the organization and lead us in the right direction. Until this day, I will forever be the gulliblefan!

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[quote=fanarchist;1086615]Maybe you should also look up nobody QBs who have thrown for 3 or more TDs for a little balance. Doesn't Matt Flynn hold the Packers record for most TD passes in a game. I'm pretty sure Josh McCowen should still be a backup. What ever happened to John Skelton? I'm guessing the ratio for backups throwing a slew of interceptions in single game has trended much higher than prolific starters too. 5 out of 11 games in his brief career Cousins has thrown 2 or more ints. And 8 out of those 11 games he has turned it over atleast once. Sounds a lot like the Rex Grossman effect to me. In contrast, Robert in his second year, undoubtedly his worst, threw for 2 ints or more (but never more) in 2 out of 13 games, and turned the ball over atleast once 10 out of 13 games. I don't believe that stats tell the whole story by any means, but I do believe if you're going to use stats they should be used diversely.[/quote]

Whoa fanarchist! Blast from the past! Been a minute

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[QUOTE=RFKRat;1086614]It's pretty simple. This team/franchise fails because it's in their nature to fail. It's in the DNA, from the front office on down. There are no winners here, none. None who give enough of a crap to care. None who will do the work and make the sacrificies to get things done. It's been this way for 20+ years so why anyone thinks it's every going to change is beyond me.



Players continue to make the same stupid mistakes. The front office makes stupid mistakes and stubbornly refuses to build any depth whatsoever. And fans continue to hope. It's remarkable, reading people's posts last night and today, listening to fans and the sycophants on local radio, how things change radically.



Two weeks ago, after the team's first win after [U]nine[/U] straight losses going back to last year, you'd think this team was 5-0 and rocking and rolling the way people talked. They beat the horrificlly bad Jaguars, and suddenly the offense is unstoppable, the defense is 85-Bearish and the coaches are geniuses, unlike the evil Shanahans who drove this franchise into the ground, as if it wasn't already six feet under when they got here. Cousins was the next coming of the franchise QB, people keep conveniently blocking out his mediocre to bad performances prior to this season...I saw everything from people predicting 9-7/10-6/11-5 records and playoffs...uh huh.



Then reality set in when the team played you know, a professional NFL team last week. Albeit one with a poor secondary. So Cousins continued to look like a world beater until Philly started putting pressure on him. Oops. That ended the comparisons to Joe Montana, compounded by the disgraceful performance last night...



Then another prime time embarrassment, in a "home" game where large chunks of the crowd were again in the oppositions colors. Cousins looked worse than Grossman on HIS worst day. The defense was comically bad. The coaches were again outclassed and clueless.



None of this will end anytime soon. With Seattle and Arizona next, this team will be 1-5 and probably will end with at least 10-12 losses again for yet another subpar campaign. The franchise QB that they stupidly traded away the world for, is so fragile he's at the point where he could get out of his car for practice and something will tear or snap. Cousins is what he is, a 4th round pick with very limited potential. The special teams and defense are laughably bad.



The Seattle game on MNF will at least add to the recent string of prime time disasters/embarrassment. This whole team needs to be blown up and sunk in the Bay and then rebuilt like an expansion team, but unfortunately that won't happen.[/QUOTE]


I agree with all of this. I can no longer dig deep down for hope. Either the team really is cursed (burial ground stuff), or DS needs to sell this team and a complete rebuilding needs to be done. Even 2012 when I look back seems so cruel. Its as if after years of just straight forward suck, the Gods said you know what lets screw with these fans a little differently this year. So they gave us RG-3 and hope and elation! It was 14-0 against Seattle in a home playoff game, and we were back! Than the Gods had us rite where they wanted us and BOOM! Complete disaster on so many levels since that glimmering moment of hope.

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I wonder how many DB's Cousins will get to the Pro Bowl?

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I'll agree that Kirk has a pension, early on in his career, to throw interceptions. But I also think it is hard to deny that when given the time, Kirk has shown more natural ability to play the position, than Robert every has in his 3-years with the team. Robert's not throwing the interceptions like Kirk, because Robert's too busy awkwardly running around and flopping on the ground, either as a result of being hit by the opposing defense or simply because of his inability to slide properly. How can such a "great athlete" look so awkward when he gets out of the pocket. I have NEVER been impressed with Robert's ability to play the position at the NFL level, because he has shown that he just doesn't have the innate ability to process information quickly enough. When are we going to stop buying into the hype and start looking at the harsh reality. Robert Griffin III is a product of Redskins Nation's intense desire to finally win, after over two decades. And because the organization franchised its future to get him, the leadership at the top is unwittingly perpetuating this false belief in a player that has great potential, but will never be the player we want him to be in order to truly lead this team. I could go on but I think I have gotten my opinion across enough. I hope I am wrong. I wish I am wrong. Because at the end of the day I am a diehard skins fan and always will be. I just don't think I am!

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Fuck it!! I'm not throwing in the towel just yet, I might in denial but I have faith. We currently have a lot injuries, young players starting (Amerson, Breeland, Cousins). These team is better than last year, we do still have some shitty players (Meriweather, Polumbus, Riley, Chester) but as the season progresses the team will get better (granted we get some of those folks back from injury. Playing with your 3rd string TE didn't help Cousins.

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Eli Manning, Trent Dilfer, joe Flacco, Doug Williams, Mark Rypien. All not so great qb's off the top of my head - that won superbowls because they had two things going for them. O-lines that allowed them to manage the game and even shine, and great defenses. We are sooooo far away from being great in those two aspects of the game that it makes me depressed and sick. Unless you have a Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers you will not overcome those deficiencies so I dont really care rite now which of our two qb's is playing. It aint happening until we build a team around one of them.

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[quote=gulliblefan;1086626]I'll agree that Kirk has a pension, early on in his career, to throw interceptions. But I also think it is hard to deny that when given the time, Kirk has shown more natural ability to play the position, than Robert every has in his 3-years with the team. Robert's not throwing the interceptions like Kirk, because Robert's too busy awkwardly running around and flopping on the ground, either as a result of being hit by the opposing defense or simply because of his inability to slide properly. How can such a "great athlete" look so awkward when he gets out of the pocket. I have NEVER been impressed with Robert's ability to play the position at the NFL level, because he has shown that he just doesn't have the innate ability to process information quickly enough. When are we going to stop buying into the hype and start looking at the harsh reality. Robert Griffin III is a product of Redskins Nation's intense desire to finally win, after over two decades. And because the organization franchised its future to get him, the leadership at the top is unwittingly perpetuating this false belief in a player that has great potential, but will never be the player we want him to be in order to truly lead this team. I could go on but I think I have gotten my opinion across enough. I hope I am wrong. I wish I am wrong. Because at the end of the day I am a diehard skins fan and always will be. I just don't think I am![/quote]

RG3 had one great year and a year when he played hurt. He was starting to catch traction this year but got hurt again. Cousin has the benefit of playing four years on a pro-style offense in college. So his fundamentals are more sound... Robert did not. Our division opponents know the weaknesses of this o-line and continually expose it when they play us. The coaches have a propensity to be too loyal to these players. Long and Moses should start to be on the field. Chester and Polumbus are dead end players. Moss should be on the field. He is a leader and he can not lead from the bench.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1086549]Cousins pretty much doomed the young secondary and the defense. If your QB throws 4 INTs, your defense will not look good. Giving the opposing offenses good filed position and leaving your defense with no rest. We need to figure out how to stop the seam route. We need to get Moses coached up. We need to teach Cousins some intestinal fortitude (can you teach that?). [B]RG3 would have taken the punishment and taken the responsibility on his self[/B]. RG3 does no throw passes up for grabs because he is under pressure. I noticed in the Eagles game when Cousins got hit or sacked. He looked terrified, he had the look of horror. RG3 took a lot of hits but that is better than throwing picks.[/quote]
Robert is fearless.....his body is not
see....latest lost season to injury.

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;1086631]RG3 had one great year and a year when he played hurt. He was starting to catch traction this year but got hurt again. Cousin has the benefit of playing four years on a pro-style offense in college. So his fundamentals are more sound... Robert did not. Our division opponents know the weaknesses of this o-line and continually expose it when they play us. The coaches have a propensity to be too loyal to these players. Long and Moses should start to be on the field. Chester and Polumbus are dead end players. Moss should be on the field. He is a leader and he can not lead from the bench.[/QUOTE]


Im not sure about Griff catching traction. He certainly wasnt catching it against Houston. For a very short time he seemed good against Jacksonville, but KC also looked like Superman and Colt McCoy probably could have beat that team also. So...nice thought but ehhh.

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It was an ass-kicking in every way.

My hope is that the game in Philly was such a street-fight that it left them drained. Not saying it as an excuse or a belief that they are particular good but just that this was, hopefully, a not particularly good team having a really bad day.

Really, that is the extent of my hope - that we are [I]only[/I] a not particularly good team.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1086634]It was an ass-kicking in every way.



My hope is that the game in Philly was such a street-fight that it left them drained. Not saying it as an excuse or a belief that they are particular good but just that this was, hopefully, a not particularly good team having a really bad day.



Really, that is the extent of my hope - that we are [I]only[/I] a not particularly good team.[/QUOTE]


Lmao. As im reading your post I was thinking..."so your hope is we are not particularily good". Your last statement would be a great sig.
Edit: im going to think "we are not particularly a good team "from now on. Its just better than being a shit show.

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I hope Jay can make good use of the info gleaned from this game....players, coaches, BU's, etc
Beyond that, it was a...tragedy I will morn for at least a few days...and pints

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What an effing debacle. I turned it off after captain int threw his 4th. Looks like we're heading toward yet another long season.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1086638]What an effing debacle. I turned it off after captain int threw his 4th. Looks like we're heading toward yet another long season.[/QUOTE]


Not a bad season though, just not a "particularly good season. "
Thanks JR!

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1086551]Cousins 4 INTS is why the defense looked so bad.


I forgot about the 2 fumbles.[/quote]
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The ints came after we got behind, because our defense cant stop anyone but the jags, even if we had the broncos offense.

Cousins played great against Philthy, we lost because the d gave up more than 30. Cousins played bad against NJGiants, we lost because the d gave up more than 30.

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[quote=punch it in;1086633]Im not sure about Griff catching traction. He certainly wasnt catching it against Houston. For a very short time he seemed good against Jacksonville, but KC also looked like Superman and Colt McCoy probably could have beat that team also. So...nice thought but ehhh.[/quote]

Honestly in the Texans game the WRs let RG down... Niles dropped pass would of went for a TD and there was another key drop. RG didn't lose that game for us. He was overly conservative, I grant you that.

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[quote=gulliblefan;1086626]I'll agree that Kirk has a [B]pension[/B], early on in his career, to throw interceptions. [/quote]

penchant

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We blew $11million of our cap space on Orakpo, when we had desperate needs at safety and right tackle. That was a terrible mistake of our FO. Not the end of the world though.

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1. we should have upgraded RT

2. we should have upgraded FS

3. lauvaua - still too early but people questioned the signing and his play (i know he didnt play last night)

4. the criticism that cousins just throws the ball at a receiver (aka chucking it up) when under pressure was on full display last night

5. penalties are killing us. im guessing we will be top 3 after week 4.

6. haslett banked on bringing pressure so his weak secondary wont be exposed ..... where is the pressure haslett?

7. ryan clark's "leadership" was lacking on the field last night

8. the team was unprepared and had a hang over from the eagles game

does gruden change things up? does he work the players harder?

im interested to see how gruden handles his first stretch of turmoil.

this is not the end of the world. we all expected 8-8 or worse. we will win some games going forward. i fully expect us to go 1-1 against the seahawks and cardinals. but the play of some players are hard to watch (rak, polumbus, secondary).

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[quote=rbanerjee23;1086643]penchant[/quote]

he has a pension to .. just posting this for informative purposes.

"The NFL is an organization that rewards the number of active seasons in both their pension and 401k plan. The pension, which players become eligible for at age 55, gives them $470/month for each season they played. A player with 4 seasons would get $1880/month starting at age 55, for the rest of their life. However, each year inflation is eating away the value of those pension dollars."

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[quote=gulliblefan;1086619]Unfortunately I have to agree. Somehow the culture of losing remains strong despite making changes with the coaching staff. Is it a coincidence that this is the case, or perhaps the losing starts at the very tip top. Frustration is at an all time high, and words really can't express how I feel as a lifelong Skins fan and former season ticket holder (moved away from the D.C. area).

I think I am just tired of hoping so much, only to have the team continually underperform. Or perhaps I just expect too much from a team that really doesn't have what it takes. Defensively this is definitely a real possibility. I think our performance last night and the weeks prior (minus the Jacksonville game against the DIII Jaguars) proves that Jim Haslett's ability to put together and lead an elite defensive in the league is gone. We run around the field as if we are chickens with our heads cut off; running hard and in the wrong directions. There is no discipline. Can we please just admit that the defense needs new leadership!

With regards to the offense, well, I have to admit I have been a proponent of Kirk Cousins since I saw him in the preseason his rookie season. I've never fully bought into the RGIII hype, and have been calling for Kirk to get an opportunity ever since his rookie year. With this being said, I think we can forgive the bad performance last night, but what worries me is Kirk's demeanor on the sideline, and his subsequent inability to rally the team when things went from bad to worse. We need leadership, and we are obviously not getting it from the coaches, so someone has to step up, and it really should come from the quarterback.

This team is just like the teams of the past decade and a half, full of potential with a pension for underperforming at all costs. Is it too much to ask for a little consistency and a team that plays together? Where does this lack of discipline and culture of losing stem from? Can it really be the coaching staff, or does it start at the tip of the spear? We all know the owner is the person calling the personnel shots with regards to the coaching staff, and perhaps Jay Gruden is the right guy, but for some reason the cancerous ownership that is Dan Snyder will always prevail, preventing any possibility for a consistent, championship level team.

I wish I could just look the other way and avoid watching, because this would save me a lot of heartache and frustration, but I am a diehard and have been since I was a little kid. You can't help who or what you love, and I just can't help that I am a diehard skins fan, I just wish we had the right leadership at the top, in order to trickle down the organization and lead us in the right direction. Until this day, I will forever be the gulliblefan![/quote]a fish rots from the head down. what has about 15 years of Dan Snyder as owner brought us?

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Cousins has a mental aspect to his game that I do not like. Can he make some throws sure...

Can he handle a rush or pressure... NO. That is a huge problem moving forward and he does not have that it factor it takes to be a continually successful career.
He is what he is a 1-5 QB in games he has started and more importantly 2-1 as a guy coming in as a relief. That's it folks. He is a good backup but not a long term answer as starter

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[quote=over the mountain;1086645]1. we should have upgraded RT

2. we should have upgraded FS

3. lauvaua - still too early but people questioned the signing and his play (i know he didnt play last night)

4. the criticism that cousins just throws the ball at a receiver (aka chucking it up) when under pressure was on full display last night

5. penalties are killing us. im guessing we will be top 3 after week 4.

6. haslett banked on bringing pressure so his weak secondary wont be exposed ..... where is the pressure haslett?

7. ryan clark's "leadership" was lacking on the field last night

8. the team was unprepared and had a hang over from the eagles game

does gruden change things up? does he work the players harder?

im interested to see how gruden handles his first stretch of turmoil.

this is not the end of the world. we all expected 8-8 or worse. we will win some games going forward. i fully expect us to go 1-1 against the seahawks and cardinals. but the play of some players are hard to watch (rak, polumbus, secondary).[/quote]

Moses was drafted for the RT, takes times

Philip Thomas should be promoted from the PS, anyone know how his foot is?

Haslett gots to go!! Promote Baker to DC, this clown has had 5/6 years with the same results. Enough is enough.

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I like Orakpo, but let him walk, he is not worth what he is going to ask for. Let Murphy start next year. 2nd round picks should be starters in year 2 anyways. We need a #1 cornerback. After week 4 that's what I'd take in round 1. Hall/Amerson/Breeland would be ok as 2-4.

We need to draft/sign 2 new starting safeties. Basically we need a complete overhaul in the secondary.

For the love of all things good in the world cut Polumbus this week and let Compton or Moses start

Perry Riley needs to be replaced. He is just an absolute statue in pass coverage.

And most importantly we need RG3 to play a full 16 games un 2015. I think he is the answer still, but gruden needs to be able to find out for sure if he is our franchise QB.

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Last night’s game didn’t show Redskins fans anything they shouldn’t have already known. We’re a terrible team. For the most part, we’ve been a terrible team for over two decades. There have been few bright spots, among them 2012. So one would naturally think, well, let’s look at that bright spot and build on it. Well, the biggest bright spot was RGIII, and so many of us don’t want the Redskins to build on that. Really? After two decades of sucking, we can’t wait a few more years while a young QB develops?

My recommendation to the FO (and the fans) would be this: it’s going to take a while to turn things around, but at least we have things we can build on: a talented receiver crew, strong TEs, a pro-bowl LT. Everything else is basically garbage. Okay, so we work on building that up, on developing guys like Amerson and Breeland, bringing in a new DC, allowing a rookie HC to take his lumps. We need to identify a core strength, build on that, and most importantly have patience. I posted in the pregame thread that this Giant game scared me. Why should any of us be surprised that a perennial contender like the Giants embarrassed a perennial loser like the Redskins? Why did we think we were so far removed from the 3-13 team we were 9 months ago? Why, after more than two decades of sucking, are we constantly shocked when a single offseason didn’t turn us into a dynasty in the waiting? It’s this loss of perspective and terrible impatience that has often plagued our front office, but has I believe more recently been the reasoning behind those wanting Cousins over RGIII.

It’s no guarantee that RGIII will be great. But demanding a complete overhaul after every bad season is not going to solve any of our problems. And our problem isn’t QB. It’s the defense, it’s the offensive line, it’s the lack of depth across the roster. Truly turning around this team and making it good will take time and patience. We’re going to have to expect and endure a lot more failure and have faith that the core of guys we have now can be built around. And I think it can happen.

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If we wait a few years to develope Griff will Trent still be a pro bowl caliber LT? Will Jackson and Garcon still have their speed? We know the shelf life on RB's so will Almo still be great? IF and thats a big IF Griff can stay healthy we dont have a few years. We need him or KC or whoever to be good next year or all these pieces we have will be bent and broken.

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Gruden needs to clean out the roster, too many players and coaches that don't want to fight every down.

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Well, wasn't that a whooping?

The good news is that you are never as bad as you look at your worst. For the sake of my sanity I will presume that last night was our worst.

The loss of DHall was huge. It changes every level of the defense.

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You know your defense sucks big time when losing DHall means the world. My God.

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The ints came after we got behind, because our defense cant stop anyone but the jags, even if we had the broncos offense.

Cousins played great against Philthy, we lost because the d gave up more than 30. Cousins played bad against NJGiants, we lost because the d gave up more than 30.[/Q

He played well in the first half of Philly.

He did not play well in the second. He hit some big plays. He had four downs to gain 10 yards with two minutes to go to get us into FG range. He blew it and threw as poorly as he did in that two minute drill as he did last night.


He even admitted his mental problem with the game in his press conference.

Re: Giants Game Negatives
 

I know they've been saying it, but Kirk Cousins straight shits his pants with any pressure ni his face. If he has a clean pocket, he's as good as any of them, but with even a little pressure his mechanics go ALLLLL to shit.