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DynamiteRave 01-10-2015 11:25 PM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1104101]I think by this time next year people will be loving Gruden instead of asking when will he be fired.[/quote]

Eh, I dunno if I'd say people would be singing his praises. But I do think there'll be a vast improvement from this season. No, that doesn't necessarily mean playoffs, but I don't think we'll be the absolute laughing stock of the league next year.

SirLK26 01-10-2015 11:49 PM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1104101]I think by this time next year people will be loving Gruden instead of asking when will he be fired.[/quote]

Hiring Single T the year after Gruden gets here is probably the most fortuitous thing that's ever happened to the latter's career. Scot has been a part of three successful teams and is the main guy responsible for building San Francisco... he's obviously better at his job than Allen or AJ Smith. If he's able to do his thing here(gotta wonder if he really knows what he's getting into) and Gruden is able to coach...

Hog1 01-10-2015 11:50 PM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
Heard Cooley sitting in on the Kevin and Tom show yesterday. K & T were remarking the positive comments about the Dan in the interview with SM coming from Scott. Basically, they were saying they did not understand why these guys spoke so highly of Dan since they already had the job. No need to brown nose the boss with BS.
Cooley stepped in and stated "you guys don't get it. Everybody loves Dan. He's a great guy". The fans don't like him but everybody who meets him thinks he is a great guy........
weird....

Bishop Hammer 01-10-2015 11:54 PM

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I think given the proper tools Gruden can be a good coach. I pick up a Kubiac vibe, he"ll coach The Skins to the playoffs on a regular basis but not deep post-season runs.

Considering Was has only made the playoffs thrice the past two decades it would be a big step up.

Skinzman 01-10-2015 11:56 PM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
[quote=Hog1;1104108]Heard Cooley sitting in on the Kevin and Tom show yesterday. K & T were remarking the positive comments about the Dan in the interview with SM coming from Scott. Basically, they were saying they did not understand why these guys spoke so highly of Dan since they already had the job. No need to brown nose the boss with BS.
Cooley stepped in and stated "you guys don't get it. Everybody loves Dan. He's a great guy". The fans don't like him but everybody who meets him thinks he is a great guy........
weird....[/quote]

As fans, we judge our like/dislike based on wins. I have found myself in the past saying "I hate Dan Snyder", but that is a simplified version of it all. I have no clue if Dan is a good guy or not, he may be a great guy to have as a friend. I dont actually hate the guy, I just wish we had a different owner. Its just easier to say "I hate Dan Snyder" than go on a monologue about why he is a bad owner.

Now... If he has truly learned his lesson and is going to turn over the keys to McC and will be patient, that thought will change. In reality, we are starting to think Dan is getting it and becoming a better owner. How we as fans will express it is that we are now liking Dan Snyder.

ethat001 01-11-2015 01:08 AM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
[QUOTE]McCloughan was GM of the 49ers from 2005-2010. He drafted well during that time. But the team’s records were 4-12, 7-9, 5-11, 7-9, 8-8, and 6-10. It wasn’t until after he left and Jim Harbaugh came aboard as the head coach did things gel in San Francisco.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2015/01/07/need-to-know-will-redskins-fans-be-patient-enough-for-a-rebuild/]Need to Know: Will Redskins fans be patient enough for rebuilding with the draft? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/QUOTE]

As mentioned already, it's useful to realize that we're on the right path but that path is sometimes a long one.

KI Skins Fan 01-11-2015 08:57 AM

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Per Scot: “I can promise you this: after getting through free agency and getting through the draft, we’ll be a better roster next year, no matter what.”

This is what I wanted to hear from our new GM. Good luck, Scot! I'm holding you to your promise.

KI Skins Fan 01-11-2015 09:01 AM

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BTW, who is ultimately responsible for handling the salary cap? I would think it would be Scot, since he 's putting the roster together but this is the Redskins and what they do doesn't always make sense. Does anyone here know?

mbedner3420 01-11-2015 10:22 AM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1104116]BTW, who is ultimately responsible for handling the salary cap? I would think it would be Scot, since he 's putting the roster together but this is the Redskins and what they do doesn't always make sense. Does anyone here know?[/quote]

I think Allen does based on an espn 980 interview, which has me nervous. That, in some marginal way, gives him control over the roster and roster moves.

Hog1 01-11-2015 10:22 AM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1104115]Per Scot: “[B]I can promise you this: after getting through free agency and getting through the draft, we’ll be a better roster next year, no matter what.”[/B]

This is what I wanted to hear from our new GM. Good luck, Scot! I'm holding you to your promise.[/quote]
Makes me want to cry..........

skinsfan69 01-11-2015 10:59 AM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1104116]BTW, who is ultimately responsible for handling the salary cap? I would think it would be Scot, since he 's putting the roster together but this is the Redskins and what they do doesn't always make sense. Does anyone here know?[/quote]

A guy named Eric Schaefer I believe is the cap and contract guy for the Redskins.

hutch17 01-13-2015 12:30 PM

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“Now he has a new coordinator, he has a new offense he has to learn, especially with Jay’s offense,” said McCloughan. “I remember with [Mike] Holmgren it took Brett Favre two years to figure it out. With Robert, mentally he’s ahead of Favre from the standpoint of picking up schemes and understanding what the offense is trying to do.”

Just read this quote and it makes me start to think, that he liked Griffin and will extend him, I assume that means good bye to Cousins.

punch it in 01-13-2015 02:31 PM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
[QUOTE=hutch17;1104607]“Now he has a new coordinator, he has a new offense he has to learn, especially with Jay’s offense,” said McCloughan. “I remember with [Mike] Holmgren it took Brett Favre two years to figure it out. With Robert, mentally he’s ahead of Favre from the standpoint of picking up schemes and understanding what the offense is trying to do.”



Just read this quote and it makes me start to think, that he liked Griffin and will extend him, I assume that means good bye to Cousins.[/QUOTE]


I wonder what he has seen to make him think Robert is mentally ahead of anyone? Especially a hof'er but ok....

JWsleep 01-13-2015 02:51 PM

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For me, the big thing is the potential change in structure. Have a football guy pick the players. Odd concept...

It will take time, no doubt, but there are ways to monitor progress beyond wins and losses. We could see that the team was not improving this year--that's what made it so awful. Pick some good folk, get a good locker room and culture and move ahead. Look for players who do not quit even in losses, improve in the trenches on both sides of the ball, and evaluate RGIII over the season. I'd like to see them trade back in the draft if the can, to maximize the number of picks.

I do hope McC cleans house after the draft and FA--time to clear out the figgin dead wood there. He mentioned that he liked that some of the scouts are young, so he can mold them. That's fine. But the old guard must go.

My lingering fear: Danny will meddle, or McC will have personal troubles and have to step down. Will Danny stick with the structure, even if McC isn't the answer? We can only hope...

Defensewins 01-13-2015 04:17 PM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
[quote=hutch17;1104607]“Now he has a new coordinator, he has a new offense he has to learn, especially with Jay’s offense,” said McCloughan. “I remember with [Mike] Holmgren it took Brett Favre two years to figure it out. With Robert, mentally he’s ahead of Favre from the standpoint of picking up schemes and understanding what the offense is trying to do.”

Just read this quote and it makes me start to think, that he liked Griffin and will extend him, I assume that means good bye to Cousins.[/quote]

Don't read to much in to this.....we are at that time of year where you try and lift the spirit and confidence of players that have had it rattled. If I was McCloughan I would do the same. What is best for the team is of all three Qb's play well. RGIII has the most work to do out of the three.
Who will start will be decided next camp and preseason. Not now.

REDSKINS4ever 01-15-2015 04:59 PM

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I'm not expecting much from the Redskins in 2015. If McCloughan can retool the roster enough to where the team can finish 7-9, 8-8, or perhaps 9-7 then it will be a clue or a sign that the Redskins are headed in the right direction.....

over the mountain 01-15-2015 05:30 PM

Re: A New Day: Scot McCloughan GM Thread Part 2
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1105036]I'm not expecting much from the Redskins in 2015. If McCloughan can retool the roster enough to where the team can finish 7-9, 8-8, or perhaps 9-7 then it will be a clue or a sign that the Redskins are headed in the right direction.....[/quote]

8-8 would be amazing next year.

My "not expecting much" radar is around 5-11.


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