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merriweather has only played in 50% of games since he's been here. that's just not reliable enough. if he's cheap he's worth keeping, but you can't depend on him for 16 games.

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My new GM is an advocate of building through the draft.
"Why hire guys that are not familiar with your system, injury issues, and may have other habits that we don't like. Let's bring in our own guys through the draft and teach them what we want and pay them to keep them. Free Agency is a tool available that we may also use when it makes sense" --Scott McC....> <
Until he proves this will not work, I am ALL in with this philosophy. Been waiting years to hear it. HTTR......
Look how well the FA philosophy has served us in the past...

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Yeah its time to build up this team and we do it by the draft no more FA BS. Yeah we can go get a couple starters in FA but I want all our picks. Trade cousins for a 5 if we can also. No sense in having him and rg3

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[quote=Lotus;1105029]Now there will be a Combine for veteran free agents on March 22.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12172630/nfl-hold-combine-veteran-free-agents]NFL to hold combine for veteran free agents - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I like it .

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The reality of the NFL is that we will need to dabble in Free Agency. If you listened to Scot, he drafts based on BPA, not Need.

That means, to fill Needs, we'll have to use Free Agency.

Also, we have several current roster members (at least 11) who will be UFA's:
Orakpo, Polumbus, Helu, J Jenkins, Meriweather, Hankerson, Paul, Moss, McCoy, Clark & Biggers to name a few.

So, we draft BPA and hope that we get all of those positions filled? Seriously?

I think it's clear that we will need to have some involvement in Free Agency.
Avoiding Free Agency is as silly as Avoiding draft picks.

Good teams strike a balance....hopefully, we become a good team soon.

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[quote=Lotus;1105029]Now there will be a Combine for veteran free agents on March 22.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12172630/nfl-hold-combine-veteran-free-agents]NFL to hold combine for veteran free agents - ESPN[/url][/quote]

......waste of time .

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[quote=Bangee7;1105195]The reality of the NFL is that we will need to dabble in Free Agency. If you listened to Scot, he drafts based on BPA, not Need.

That means, to fill Needs, we'll have to use Free Agency.

Also, we have several current roster members (at least 11) who will be UFA's:
Orakpo, Polumbus, Helu, J Jenkins, Meriweather, Hankerson, Paul, Moss, McCoy, Clark & Biggers to name a few.

So, we draft BPA and hope that we get all of those positions filled? Seriously?

I think it's clear that we will need to have some involvement in Free Agency.
Avoiding Free Agency is as silly as Avoiding draft picks.

Good teams strike a balance....hopefully, we become a good team soon.[/quote]

Orakpo - Injured, as usual
Polumbus - Demoted
Helu - Backup
J Jenkins - Bust
Meriweather - Concussed or suspended
Hankerson - Contributed nothing
Paul - Special Teamer
Moss - Not in Skins plans
McCoy - Noodle armed stopgap
Clark - Done
Biggers - Sucks

These players need to be replaced via FA? Uh, no. They could all leave and not be missed on the field.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1105211]Orakpo - Injured, as usual
Polumbus - Demoted
Helu - Backup
J Jenkins - Bust
Meriweather - Concussed or suspended
Hankerson - Contributed nothing
Paul - Special Teamer
Moss - Not in Skins plans
McCoy - Noodle armed stopgap
Clark - Done
Biggers - Sucks

These players need to be replaced via FA? Uh, no. They could all leave and not be missed on the field.[/QUOTE]
I agree, and further if the team decided that one or two, like Helu or Paul, did fill a need why not resign your own instead?

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Let them all test the market and come back before even considering to offer.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1105213]I agree, and further if the team decided that one or two, like Helu or Paul, did fill a need why not resign your own instead?[/quote]

" Why not resign your own" ? ahhh because the team was 4-12 and you can do better - Paul is a special teams player masquerading as a TE - Helu is an average 3rd down back

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Helu hasn't done much in 2 years. Paul had 1 good game last yr.

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Helu and Paul are perhaps worth keeping if looked at purely as depth players rather than starters.

Depth has been an issue with this team for years.

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I for one hope we keep Helu. Especially on 3rd down he's shown to be one of the more reliable pass catching rbs in the league. Paul is hit or miss, depends on the price. He shows flashes when called upon, but I also like some of the young talent coming out in the draft this year who can both block and be a threat in the passing game which would allow us to not worry about wasting two roster spaces on people who do one and not the other. Don't really want to keep any of the other free agents we have.

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1105219]" Why not resign your own" ? ahhh because the team was 4-12 and you can do better - Paul is a special teams player masquerading as a TE - Helu is an average 3rd down back[/QUOTE]
I think both had decent backup years, Helu certainly filled a role. If you are saying go out and get someone else for comparable dollars, sure bring guys in for competition as well as some undrafted rookies. BUT if you are saying we need to spend much more to upgrade those positions I say there is value to the guys who have solid chemistry, have effective if not standout ability and our FA dollars are better spent elsewhere. Another way to say it is those guys are holes only if you choose to make them one, in which case you need to have a plan that produces more without spending unreasonably over what their resign fee would be.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1105211]Orakpo - Injured, as usual
Polumbus - Demoted
Helu - Backup
J Jenkins - Bust
Meriweather - Concussed or suspended
Hankerson - Contributed nothing
Paul - Special Teamer
Moss - Not in Skins plans
McCoy - Noodle armed stopgap
Clark - Done
Biggers - Sucks

These players need to be replaced via FA? Uh, no. They could all leave and not be missed on the field.[/quote]

This assessment is dead on.

I feel bad for Jenkins, he showed promise during pre-season his first year but that injury really killed his ceiling.

I will never understand why some people are still enamored with Hank. lol I remember getting into a huge argument with some guy on the board a year or two ago, because he swore Hank was going to be a formidable #1.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1105226]Helu hasn't done much in 2 years. Paul had 1 good game last yr.[/quote]

Helu I think is a good #2, but I'd honestly like to see Redd moved up the depth chart.

I don't know how offenses work, but I know we're bringing in big fatties for the line... Would that mean we're changing to a shifty cut runner (like Helu) or a big power runner (Alfmo)?

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I like Helu but we need a back that can block on 3rd downs. It was a big problem this year.

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In free agency, Mike Iupati and Byron Maxwell are my hopefuls, I really hope they look into moving Amerson to FS.

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I'd love maxwell and mike I.

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[quote=Mattyk;1105243]I like Helu but we need a back that can block on 3rd downs. It was a big problem this year.[/quote]

This. Our RB and TE *have* to block, and catch 2nd. We've just collected RB and pass-catching TE who cannot block.

Nothing wrong with FA to fill the roster with good depth / character. The strategy should be pick up the bargains AFTER the first 2 weeks of FA, instead of overpaying for older vets looking for a payday. If McC has a good eye for the draft, hope he has a good eye for FA bargains as well. And taking them young 25-27 is better than the 30+ year olds we used to pick up.

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Barksdale yes! Orrrr orlando franklin i like it OP. Thing is your db selections worry me. Tramons not young anymore hes about where we picked up dhall when we got him in age. Thats cool it worked with hall but nahhh abd rahim moore is basicly meriweather with a littttle better instincts and coverage... Nahhhh i want ballhawks!!

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1105246]In free agency, Mike Iupati and Byron Maxwell are my hopefuls, I really hope they look into moving Amerson to FS.[/quote]

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2334794-why-mike-iupati-must-be-at-top-of-washington-redskins-free-agent-wish-list?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=br_redskins]Why Mike Iupati Must Be at Top of Washington Redskins' Free-Agent Wish List | Bleacher Report[/url]

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Dan Williams the NT from Arizona is also a free agent I would like to look at.

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I kept a close eye on Brian Bulaga during the GB divisional playoff game. He was matched up against Cliff Avril for most of the game and it seemed to me that he handled Avril well in pass protection.

The Packers didn't seem to run much to Bulaga's side. I don't know what that might indicate, if anything.

It seems to me that he could help us as our new RT if the Skins want to go with a FA at that position. He's just 26 years old which is a good thing.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1105625]I kept a close eye on Brian Bulaga during the GB divisional playoff game. He was matched up against Cliff Avril for most of the game and it seemed to me that he handled Avril well in pass protection.

The Packers didn't seem to run much to Bulaga's side. I don't know what that might indicate, if anything.

It seems to me that he could help us as our new RT if the Skins want to go with a FA at that position. He's just 26 years old which is a good thing.[/quote]

I watched the samething, agree. I think he would be a solid RT signing.

Actually I was impressed with the Green Bays no-name oline man handle Seattle Dline most of the day.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/27/report-rams-interested-in-trading-for-nick-foles/]Report: Rams interested in trading for Nick Foles | ProFootballTalk[/url]


If the Rams would cut Bradford, I would hope we would be very interested. "Pay-as-you-go" and "prove it" contracts are the new fad, so there is no excuse to bitch out on a player like Bradford. Im not talking break the bank, but he is a risk that would be worth taking.

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[quote=Chico23231;1106179][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/27/report-rams-interested-in-trading-for-nick-foles/]Report: Rams interested in trading for Nick Foles | ProFootballTalk[/url]


If the Rams would cut Bradford, I would hope we would be very interested. "Pay-as-you-go" and "prove it" contracts are the new fad, so there is no excuse to bitch out on a player like Bradford. Im not talking break the bank, but he is a risk that would be worth taking.[/quote]

Yeah I had said the same thing earlier in the year. Bradford, RGIII and Kirk battle it out. McCoy IMHO is not going be a starter in this league.

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[quote=mredskins;1106182]Yeah I had said the same thing earlier in the year. Bradford, RGIII and Kirk battle it out. McCoy IMHO is not going be a starter in this league.[/quote]

I would be more inclined to move RG3 or McCoy if we did. I think Cleveland is a good landing spot for either guy.

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[quote=Chico23231;1106183]I would be more inclined to move RG3 or McCoy if we did. I think Cleveland is a good landing spot for either guy.[/quote]

Typically you carry 3 QB's. RGIII is under contract and is fairly cheap plus he is playing for that 5th year payday.

McCoy has already been through CLE he is not going back.

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I just don't see St. Louis letting Bradford walk. Probably not going to happen. He still has value. He's still probably shown enough in his limited play that if you put talent around him, he can be really good. I think he stays put but has to compete for the job.

We're looking at a competition probably between Griffin and someone else. Not going to be three guys. Gruden pretty much already stated that. We already know he likes McCoy so I would assume they pick him over KC and draft a guy.

I also think if Philly is dangling Foles, and I'm the Redskins, I make a call.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1106185]I also think if Philly is dangling Foles, and I'm the Redskins, I make a call.[/quote]


:laughing2



:Flush:



Ok Vinny.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1106186]:laughing2



:Flush:



Ok Vinny.[/quote]

Well he's better than any of the options we have here. Making a call to find out what the price is doesn't mean make a deal.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1106187]Well he's better than any of the options we have here.[/quote]

Id chose waiting to see if Bradford would become available over Foles. I do think Foles would be a better option over Cousins though...but Im not giving a pick in the first 3 rounds for him.

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i dont know much about Scot McCloughan but i dont think trading picks for players is his MO. i dont want Foles anyway. thats the last thing we need. another average QB thinking he is elite.

I think Bulaga is going to want LT money and command close to 7-8 mil per year.

Iupati will also command top dollar. If we didnt pull the trigger on lauvau at 4-5 mil per last year, it would seem more do-able.


i dont see us adding multiple premier talent FAs. We need to add 1 or 2 starters in FA, made one of them will be premier.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1106185][B]I just don't see St. Louis letting Bradford walk. Probably not going to happen. He still has value. [/B]He's still probably shown enough in his limited play that if you put talent around him, he can be really good. I think he stays put but has to compete for the job.

We're looking at a competition probably between Griffin and someone else. Not going to be three guys. Gruden pretty much already stated that. We already know he likes McCoy so I would assume they pick him over KC and draft a guy.

I also think if Philly is dangling Foles, and I'm the Redskins, I make a call.[/quote]

I think form a $$$ stand point it makes the most sense for STL to cut him.

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Trading for a QB would be stupid. Build both lines, bolster the defense, fix special teams, and set up a situation where a young/inexperience QB can grow and be successful.

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Ron Parker SS, from Kansas City
Mike Iupati OG, from San Francisco
Dan Williams NT, from Arizona
Byron Maxwell or Brandon Flowers CB from Seattle and San Diego respectively
Rahim Moore FS, from Denver
Will Hill SS, Baltimore (has issues I know)
Samson Steele C

Those are the group of FAs I have interest in

Although he would be way too much and there isn't a need at all, having Dez Bryant on Madden would be fun

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Brian Bulaga?
Oh man, I would cream myself if we got him.

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SM has already said he's not one to depend on free agency. I'd expect us to be quiet this year.

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While McCloughan has said he intends to the build through the draft, if Baluga fits in Jay's system and is available at the right price, I am confident SM would make an offer.

I wouldn't expect Redskin 1 to be out of the gates day one, but, in light of SM's comments and where we are talentwise, I would expect them to look into a few folks who become available.