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I was really hoping Moses was going to make an impact last year. I am so fucking pumped that we have a Oline guru making the most out of our investments in young Olinemen. How many have we seen develop into nothing, granted that will happen when you're only selecting late round players, but I think with this line we may are an early round draft pick starter and a few young depth guys away from being elite. We will win with this.

I really think the Oline is the single most important unit on a football team. QB's, RB's, WR's, and TE's are useless without a good Oline (see most Redskins teams since the early 90's).

Yeah Yeah Defense wins championships, but you literally can't win games if you can't score.

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BTW . . . Just curious for input from longtime fans, (I was too young to really remember anything but the costumes), what would make a Redskins Oline worthy of the "Hogs" moniker (not that they are anywhere close, I just want to know what I'm looking out for)

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These guys have a gotten off to a great start! Really exciting to see true power football in the Burgundy and Gold......



The Redskins' primary weapon in the backfield was [B]running back Earnest Byner, who ranked 5th in the NFL with 1,048 rushing yards, while also catching 34 passes for 308 yards and scoring 5 touchdowns. Rookie running back Ricky Ervins was also a major asset to the running attack, rushing 145 times for 680 yards for an average of 4.7 yards per carry[/B], while also catching 16 passes for 181 yards. And when Washington was near the goal line, they usually relied on fullback Gerald Riggs, who rushed for 248 yards and scored 11 touchdowns. The Redskins' offensive line, known as "The Hogs", was led by Pro Bowl tackle Jim Lachey and guard Mark Schlereth, along with four-time Pro Bowl veteran Russ Grimm. [B]The Hogs allowed the fewest sacks in the league with just 9, 10 sacks less than the team that allowed the second-fewest. [/B]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1122189]lets see after the next 2 weeks.

I won't scoff at either till we show we can handle them.[/quote]

Oh I agree, just looking based on the last two games.

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[quote]The Hogs allowed the fewest sacks in the league with just 9, 10 sacks less than the team that allowed the second-fewest.[/quote]

giving up ~0.5 sacks a game is just ridiculous.

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[quote=That Guy;1122280]giving up ~0.5 sacks a game is just ridiculous.[/quote]

18, 22, 19, 14, 20, 17, 20, 11, 14, 20, 15, 16, 12, 13, 16, 23, 20, 20, 17

Avg ~ 16

Those are the least number of sacks by a team for each year since '96, so even the best over the past 20 years haven't come close, and they gave up half of what the best teams generally give up every year. That's just crazy. So far I can only find one better team with that stat, the '88 Dolphins only gave up 7.

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and guys think about it who was the QB behind that line..point being an average QB looks very good behind a great O LINE!!

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[quote=rocnrik;1122283]and guys think about it who was the QB behind that line..point being an average QB looks very good behind a great O LINE!![/quote]

In almost all of the glory years for the Redskins, that's been the case. A stout defense, ridiculous OL, brutal running game. QB's have always been mid pack guys who played well for a short time. We've had very few if any QB's who were long time "franchise" guys since Sonny.. 6 wins or 10 wins, this is Redskins football and I'm damn glad to see it come back..

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I would have gladly given the 5th pick in the draft for Russ Grimm if it would have taken that. I'm glad we're finally taking linemen seriously. I have no problem with our draft this year whatsoever. As SFredskin pointed out, who would you have rather drafted right now. Alex Mack or Brian Orakpo?

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orakpo wasn't bad at all, he just wanted too much money and got hurt a bit too much. even with hindsight, that's not a terrible pick.

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Man, I miss the hogs. Here's to hoping that the current line becomes their 21st century incarnation.

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Football is won in the trenches..Even a great D line makes average DB'S look good!

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Heres a OMG scenario for you guys that want to fix the run game and give Cousins better protection.
Cody Whitehair is the highest rated guard on the CBS board.
Yet he is rated #37 overall.
Which means he could be there at 21.
And can he play center?
You see where I am going with this?

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My official Center draftee man crush:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2016/02/25/could-redskins-consider-another-iowa-offensive-lineman-in-this-years-draft/[/url]

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1893056/austin-blythe]Austin Blythe, C, Iowa, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

Blythe plays with good knee bend to hold up to bull rushes, slides well laterally and carries dynamite in his hands to pop defenders, [B]often surprising opponents with his power and knocking them to the turf. Shows some nastiness in his play, looking to pancake and land on top of opponents. [/B]He isn't just a pile driver, however, showing impressive agility and understanding of angles to sneak ahead of opponents and seal them off, creating easy lanes for his teammates to exploit


"Blythe, who’s among the 333 prospects at this week’s NFL Scouting Combine, said he [B]met with a Redskins representative at the Senior Bowl [/B]earlier this month but hadn’t yet spoken to anyone from the team this week in Indianapolis"

"IN OUR VIEW: Blythe may not come with the name recognition and length of some of the other top center prospects in 2016, [B]but he's pro-ready, boasting the smarts, toughness and technique to project as a future starter [/B]who might still be available in the middle rounds."

This is the guy I want us to draft at Center

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[quote=Chico23231;1139680]My official Center draftee man crush:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2016/02/25/could-redskins-consider-another-iowa-offensive-lineman-in-this-years-draft/[/url]

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1893056/austin-blythe]Austin Blythe, C, Iowa, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

Blythe plays with good knee bend to hold up to bull rushes, slides well laterally and carries dynamite in his hands to pop defenders, [B]often surprising opponents with his power and knocking them to the turf. Shows some nastiness in his play, looking to pancake and land on top of opponents. [/B]He isn't just a pile driver, however, showing impressive agility and understanding of angles to sneak ahead of opponents and seal them off, creating easy lanes for his teammates to exploit


"Blythe, who’s among the 333 prospects at this week’s NFL Scouting Combine, said he [B]met with a Redskins representative at the Senior Bowl [/B]earlier this month but hadn’t yet spoken to anyone from the team this week in Indianapolis"

"IN OUR VIEW: Blythe may not come with the name recognition and length of some of the other top center prospects in 2016, [B]but he's pro-ready, boasting the smarts, toughness and technique to project as a future starter [/B]who might still be available in the middle rounds."

This is the guy I want us to draft at Center[/quote]

So he was Schreiffs C when he was there too right. I have no problem drafting another nasty smart Iowa OL

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He is a smaller guy though. 6-2 293 isnt the size we want. We alreadt have a Kory L

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1139682]So he was Schreiffs C when he was there too right. I have no problem drafting another nasty smart Iowa OL[/quote]

He def played along Schreff for a couple years. So last year he was a full time Center for an Iowa team which was outstanding. His weight is a little low, but he can bulk up.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1139683]He is a smaller guy though. 6-2 293 isnt the size we want. We alreadt have a Kory L[/quote]

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/combine/2016/ALL/C/?:sort_col=10&:sort_dir=1]2016 NFL Draft Combine - CBSSports.com 2016 NFL Draft Combine[/url]

Well, true, but he can bulk. So he just did that, 225 29 times leading the Center candidates at the combine.

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Hes rated the #6 center on CBS.
Going by that I'd say hes a fith rounder at best.

(yes I know CBS isnt perfect)

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CBS is probably the best in projections.

most years the top C is like, a high 3rd rounder, and usually guards don't really get picked until the 2nd round. every now and then you get someone crazy like a hutchinson though.

definitely a guy to keep an eye on. i'd be shocked if we didn't draft an og/c type in the 2nd-5th round. if the skins met him at the senior bowl, there's a good chance they got what they needed there.