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[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24057772/falcons-announce-wr-julio-jones-is-out-for-the-season]Falcons announce WR Julio Jones is out for the season - CBSSports.com[/url]

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[quote=over the mountain;1124514][url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24057772/falcons-announce-wr-julio-jones-is-out-for-the-season]Falcons announce WR Julio Jones is out for the season - CBSSports.com[/url][/quote]

Joke post? Since it is from 2013...

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1124515]Joke post? Since it is from 2013...[/quote]

yes, just trying to have some short lived fun. ran across it when i was googling jones injury update. the hyperlink description was too good to pass up.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/30/julio-jones-didnt-practice-on-wednesday-with-a-pair-of-injuries/]Julio Jones didn’t practice on Wednesday with a pair of injuries | ProFootballTalk[/url]

^^ current injury update. DNP yesterday. havent heard about today's participation.

take any help we can get.

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Good news, Per Keim:

Redskins coach Jay Gruden said an MRI showed no damage to Chris Culliver's left knee. Gruden said, "it's something he has to deal with from a pain standpoint." Gruden said he's not sure yet about his chances to play Sunday at Atlanta.

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I am skipping this week and going to enjoy last weeks win for a few more days!
As far as I'm concerned, we play the jets next.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1124459]My concern is our secondary and their passing game. We need to control the clock and [B]score TD's instead of FG's[/B]. We can win, rattle Ryan.[/quote]

That is THE biggest key for me. We can keep the ball away from them for 40+ minutes, and move the ball up and down the field, but if we get 3s instead of 6s, then we will lose.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1124519]Good news, Per Keim:

Redskins coach Jay Gruden said an MRI showed no damage to Chris Culliver's left knee. Gruden said, "it's something he has to deal with from a pain standpoint." Gruden said he's not sure yet about his chances to play Sunday at Atlanta.[/quote]

Good news, but if he's still sore, I hope that they sit him and hopefully he's 100% against the Jets). He was clearly not healthy last week and got torched for 2 TDs -- what do you think JJ will do to him?

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It's not the ideal situation, but I think you have to put Breeland on Julio, then go from there depending on the receiver sets. Julio has more than twice as many receptions as the next guy on that team. You simply can't afford to put someone on him that can't run with him.

Freeman out of the backfield as a receiver worries me more than Julio though...

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Dont see us winning this game. A lot of things going against us. If we do win.. I expect Super Bowl predictions next week.

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If it were here, I would say we have a shot. Matty Ice doesn't lose many home games.

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my biggest fear for this game is that the birds will do what the giants did to minimize the pass rush by going to that quick/short passing game. I hope the dc doesn't fall into the trap of being afraid of getting beat deep and playing everyone so far off the ball to minimize the chance of getting beat deep that it opens up miles of underneath room for them to get 1st downs and chew up clock.
They did that against the giants in fear of getting beat by ODB, I'm afraid we will see the same thing this week. Zero or one sack by the defense because the short stuff is open, no turnovers forced and a runaway game.

HOPEFULLY they will play aggressive and force the birds to win the game, vs giving it to them an easy 5 to 8 yards at a time, which will result in a sure loss anyway.

To elaborate further, look at the cowgirls game. up 28-7 what do they do?
play prevent and lose the game.
I think we will start out playing prevent, especially with the depleted secondary. What that will do is give them long time consuming drives, make their running game look more credible than it is, and by the time they decide to change the plan because prevent isn't working, it will be too late.

Here's to hoping they prove me wrong!

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[quote=martytheman;1124532]my biggest fear for this game is that the birds will do what the giants did to minimize the pass rush by going to that quick/short passing game. I hope the dc doesn't fall into the trap of being afraid of getting beat deep and playing everyone so far off the ball to minimize the chance of getting beat deep that it opens up miles of underneath room for them to get 1st downs and chew up clock.
They did that against the giants in fear of getting beat by ODB, I'm afraid we will see the same thing this week. Zero or one sack by the defense because the short stuff is open, no turnovers forced and a runaway game.

HOPEFULLY they will play aggressive and force the birds to win the game, vs giving it to them an easy 5 to 8 yards at a time, which will result in a sure loss anyway.[/quote]

I'm ok with keeping everything in front of them, make ATL earn it all the way down the field...as long as we choke 'em out in the red zone and force FG attempts

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1124533]I'm ok with keeping everything in front of them, make ATL earn it all the way down the field...as long as we choke 'em out in the red zone and force FG attempts[/quote]

The problem is, that plays right into the birds strength. Ryan is more than happy to throw short and fast and keep a clean jersey, Julio runs a ton of underneath stuff and can beat you just as badly with rac as he can over the top.
I really hope the redskins can start strong, chew up some clock and come away with td's instead of fg's. IF they can do that, I like their chances. Unfortunately recent history against that team suggests otherwise.

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I think the Redskins chances are on who plays and how effective the dinged up players are. Last Sunday Culliver was so ineffective I think Amerson could have played better (Did I really say that?). Sometimes a back-up at 100% is better than your starter at 80%. When I said back-up I know Amerson is gone to the Raiders.

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Keys to the game are simple. Win the turnover battle and blitz the hell outta Ryan. Cannot give that guy time.

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I think this game gets played much like the Giants game, and with the same results. We just don't have the overall talent to beat dynamic receivers.

But if Breeland plays lights out on JJ then maybe the rest can put a solid outing together. Even so, I think we need 28 points minimum to beat them.

Final score
Was 22
Atl 42

Lets move on quickly.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1124539]I think this game gets played much like the Giants game, and with the same results. We just don't have the overall talent to beat dynamic receivers.



But if Breeland plays lights out on JJ then maybe the rest can put a solid outing together. Even so, I think we need 28 points minimum to beat them.



Final score

Was 22

Atl 42



Lets move on quickly.[/QUOTE]


This reminds me i forgot a very important key to the game. Run it down their effing throats like we are trying to hurt them and keep the ball outta their dang hands. [emoji2]

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Playing keep away doesn't always work:

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=290921015]Colts vs. Dolphins - Game Recap - September 21, 2009 - ESPN[/url]

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1124541]Playing keep away doesn't always work:



[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=290921015]Colts vs. Dolphins - Game Recap - September 21, 2009 - ESPN[/url][/QUOTE]


No but u didnt have to reference 2009 to find an exception. You could have referenced week one when we played the Fins. Lol
Obviously we have to not only run but move the chains and score. JC has to be the KC of last week. As in 0 int's!

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[quote=punch it in;1124542]No but u didnt have to reference 2009 to find an exception. You could have referenced week one when we played the Fins. Lol
Obviously we have to not only run but move the chains and score. JC has to be the KC of last week. As in 0 int's![/quote]

That game always sticks in my mind. Colts had it for less than 15 minutes, and hey ran 35 plays to 84 for the Dolphins. and still won 27 - 23. It was a crazy game.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1124539]I think this game gets played much like the Giants game, and with the same results. We just don't have the overall talent to beat dynamic receivers.

But if Breeland plays lights out on JJ then maybe the rest can put a solid outing together. Even so, I think we need 28 points minimum to beat them.

Final score
Was 22
Atl 42

Lets move on quickly.[/quote]

Good point about points...field goals won't this weekend, gotta get the ball in the end zone.

Desean jax back would be a huge lift to the offense. I'm not sold on the Falcons defense. Matt jones need some more reps. We need to get these big play guys in the game plan. While garçon, grant and Alfmo are our steady, keep the chains moving guys...but d jax and Matt jones have the break away threat that keep opposing d coordinators on their toes.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1124543]That game always sticks in my mind. Colts had it for less than 15 minutes, and hey ran 35 plays to 84 for the Dolphins. and still won 27 - 23. It was a crazy game.[/QUOTE]


Yeah thats what ya call a baaaaad loss.

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In the first big upset of the season, the Washington Redskins outlast the Atlanta Falcons 28-20

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[quote=RedskinJake;1124457]Falcons fans sound just like the Dolphins fans did.. expecting 3 TD win margins.. I hope this is a trap game for them. I'd love to see us score on the first drive, luck into a fumble recovery for a TD and then run the ball for 40 minutes. This game is theirs to lose but that's why they play the games.. Can't stand Falcons fans. As arrogant as Eagles fans but without any reason to be..[/quote]

Well they do have the same number of Trophys as the eagles fans so I would say that is a toss up.

I will be there Sunday and I am looking for a ball control run all over them type of game.

Two of the biggest players this weekend will be Chris Thompson for us (they are weak in covering passes in the backfield) and Devonta Freeman for them he has been tearing it up and is much more important to them than he gets credit for. I do think we can stop the run up the middle and our linebackers are fast Especially Robinson and can contain the screen game, I wouldn't say the same about them.

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I'm not the least bit concerned about the Falcons running game. I know they've been good at running the ball this season but I think we can put a stop to that.

I think the people who can beat us are the elite players on other teams. We seem to have the rest under control. On the Falcons, those players are Ryan and Jones. Jones must be doubled and denied the ball. Let Hankerson or some other overrated Atlanta player have the opportunity to drop a pass or fumble at a key point in the game. As for Ryan, this may be the week to spring some exotic blitzes to push back the Falcons offense or get a turnover.

As for our offense, we just need to keep doing what we're doing but do it even better. Fewer penalties and no turnovers would make a significant difference for us.

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Reed, Culliver, DJax, and Hall out. Can't see us winning this. Could see us getting blown out. Atlanta 38, Skins 16. Makes me sad to write that.


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I wish they still had Amerson right about now.

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[quote=30gut;1124574]I wish they still had Amerson right about now.[/quote]

Not me. Play what we got, see what we got. We knew what we had in Amerson and it wasn't good. If someone (Q. Dunbar, I am looking at you!) steps up and performs, fantastic. If not, oh well, at least we'll see if they have some potential for development.

Bottom line, it is highly unlikely that Amerson would be the difference between winning and losing Sunday. If Culliver sits out and the eventual starter gives up 3 TD's as opposed to the 2 TD's Amerson would have given up ... maybe.

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John Keim
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Redskins coach Jay Gruden said four starters will not play Sunday: tight end Jordan Reed (concussion), receiver DeSean Jackson (hamstring), corner Chris Culliver (knee) and corner DeAngelo Hall (toe).

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Sorry, just saw that Culliver definitely out. Doesn't change my opinion.

Likely that Blackmon and Breeland start at corners and Jarret the slot corner with Dunbar coming in when they go four wide.

Again, I would take Blackmon over Amerson. Mostly b/c I know Amerson sucks and suspect Blackmon sucks less. I could be wrong but I doubt it. Amerson really, really sucked.

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I just looked up the Falcons vs. Eagles game, since we just came off of the win against the Eagles. I predict the game on sunday will be very similar to Eagles vs. Falcons, but the Skins will rush a lot more often and try to control the clock:

[URL="http://www.atlantafalcons.com/schedules/game/2015/regular1"]http://www.atlantafalcons.com/schedules/game/2015/regular1[/URL]

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Lol, im not saying Amerson is the difference between winning and losing.

Our current CB depth is nil; Amerson would help.

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[quote=30gut;1124579]Lol, im not saying Amerson is the difference between winning and losing.

Our current CB depth is nil; Amerson would help.[/quote]

The Skins knew they lacked CB depth when they cut him. What does that say about their belief in him?

At this stage of our team build, I say keep running players through the system until we can find players who can do the job. Once you know a player can't do it, as in the case of Amerson, cut him and try the next guy. You may need to open a lot of oysters before you find a pearl.

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Remember, breeland has own dez Bryant...a large, athletic wr.

This is a big test for Barry, interesting see how he gives help. I'm gonna be watching Jarrett, will he line up on the outside?

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Culliver out is a huge blow.

I wouldnt be surprised if Amerson was cut bc he was missing assignments and responsibilities. pure speculation on my part but id take 11 guys on the same page.

His cut was unexpected, that leads me to believe something happened behind closed doors. did he miss another meeting like last year? not study enough?


perhaps a Jeron Johnson sighting, letting him be the 4th corner? i know he is a safety but i thought he was kinda hybrid. is he out of the dog house yet? is he even on the active roster? I thought he would be contributing a lot more.
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I was curious on how Amerson was doing ..sigh

"Fast forward one week and the North Carolina State-product has now found himself engrained in the Raiders cornerback rotation, playing every defensive snap except two against Chicago and finishing the day with 7 total tackles, 1 very impressive pass defensed and 1 forced fumble."

[url=http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/David-Amerson-Earning-A-Role-In-Raiders-Secondary/f36290ba-2d6d-454e-b5d4-7015298bb07f]David Amerson Earning A Role In Raiders Secondary[/url]

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checked out jeron johnsons twitter for any hints .. none except he thanks the lord every day for a new day, seems to be friends w darryl young and loves his Boise State Broncos.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1124585]Culliver out is a huge blow.



I wouldnt be surprised if Amerson was cut bc he was missing assignments and responsibilities. pure speculation on my part but id take 11 guys on the same page.



His cut was unexpected, that leads me to believe something happened behind closed doors. did he miss another meeting like last year? not study enough?[/QUOTE]


I thought he was cut because he sucked.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1124583]The Skins knew they lacked CB depth when they cut him. What does that say about their belief in him?

At this stage of our team build, I say keep running players through the system until we can find players who can do the job. [B]Once you know a player can't do it, as in the case of Amerson, cut him and try the next guy. You may need to open a lot of oysters before you find a pearl.[/B][/quote]

Yup. My point exactly.

Who knows ...

Maybe Blackmon is a (very) late bloomer previously hindered by a series of injuries but is now all better and fits our system really really well;

Maybe Deshazor is that crazy UFA who fell between the cracks and just needed an opportunity;

Maybe Q. Dunbar - like D. Young (a LB his rookie year) - is a real diamond in the rough with the potential to be a stud CB in a year or two.

Test the depth and see what you got. This is as good a game as any to try it.

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[quote=punch it in;1124586]I thought he was cut because he sucked.[/quote]

Im thinking ... sucked + "something" = unexpected cut.

I just dont know what that "something" is. he was cut after the d hall injury so we were a little thin there and cutting him at that point and bringing in will blackmon off the street seemed a lil extreme.

i feel like we are missing something here.

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[quote=Chico23231;1124584]Remember, breeland has own dez Bryant...a large, athletic wr.

This is a big test for Barry, interesting see how he gives help. I'm gonna be watching Jarrett, will he line up on the outside?[/quote]

I seriously doubt it. His draft report makes out as a linebacker type safety who doesn't turn and run particularly well. Here is his draft profile: [url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/kyshoen-jarrett?id=2552593]Kyshoen Jarrett Draft Profile – NFL.com[/url]

[quote][B][U]Weaknesses:[/U][/B] Tight-hipped rover who is more linebacker than safety. Clunky when transitioning from backpedal. Lacking recovery speed. Frenetic. Allows excitement for the game to overcome him at times. Can get lost in coverage when plays break down and scramble ensues. Blitzing machine with limited coverage responsibilities, often locking in on tight ends and as a very deep, single-high safety.

...

[B][U]Bottom Line:[/U][/B] Productive, yet limited, three-year starter with a nose for the ball and a willingness to play a physical brand of football. He can be a liability in coverage and will have to be covered up by scheme, but he's an absolute bulldog around the line of scrimmage and can play on special teams right away.[/quote]

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[quote=over the mountain;1124590]Im thinking ... sucked + "something" = unexpected cut.

I just dont know what that "something" is. he was cut after the d hall injury so we were a little thin there and cutting him at that point and bringing in will blackmon off the street seemed a lil extreme.

i feel like we are missing something here.[/quote]

I'm thinking the "something" was ... "sucked + [sucked really bad, sucked last year, sucked again this year and we are now convinced he will continue to suck from now until doomsday - a blind dog with three broken legs provides better coverage than him.]"

I could be wrong. (Not about him sucking though, that's a rock-solid-take-it-to-Vegas-and-bet-your-house reason for him being cut).