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A very accurate assessment:

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/23049/after-playoff-elimination-redskins-face-plenty-of-work-in-quest-to-return]Redskins have plenty of work to do to return to postseason - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 

How much do we have w cap room? Thought it was close to $50 mil but if we keep DJax and pay Cousins, that number goes down a lot.


Offseason priorities:
-- Dline, LB, Center+LG, safety, CB, RB
1) FA - fill gaps above
2) Draft - best available with focus on spots above
3) Get healthy -- Galette, Culliver, Ihenacho, Niles Paul, Hayward, Jarrett..

Hoping Breeland/Smith/Dunbar/Scherff/Moses develop.. Hope Ihenacho gets better -- maybe him & Hall back there?

Finally some hope for future. Hope this continues, tired of a flash playoff run followed by ineptitude. McC is the difference from the past.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1137120]do we sign DJAX? And how long? I say we do for another 4 years[/quote]

Need him to restructure his deal or let him walk.

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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1137070]I wouldn't sign Cousins to any extended contract

Sign him to a one year contract, no more than 10 million, with the option to pickup an extended contract if he pans out.

He was okay this season, not fantastic, he didn't lead us to any wins over teams with a winning record, all of our wins came off of teams with 8-8 or worse records.

He may be a good QB, or he may turn out to be another dud, don't pin too much hopes on him just yet.[/quote]

Yea, you might as well fuck off, thanks.

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[quote=mooby;1137121]This is the worst idea I've ever heard in 10 years of reading terrible ideas on these forums. Reevaluate your life.[/quote]

Yes. Re evaluate your entire life and dont bother posting here again, thanks.

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Is this dude fuckin serious? Atlanta, not a loss IMO if garcon doesnt lose the ball and grant doesnt fall the fuck down... lose BOTH to philly without Kirk, lose as hell to tampa... need i go on? Get the fuck off this board and out of a fucking redskins jersey you fucking MORON.
Bye Felicia. You fucking scrub

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We need to improve team speed on defense. DLineman that are disruptive and can get to the qb is a top priority.
We desperately need a top notch Left Guard to solidify our O-line.
We need a big blocking TE that can also be a threat in the passing game. We do not have one that can block. Bringing in a 6th O-lineman is not working.

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[quote=Schneed10;1137131]Holy shit this guy. Lifetime ban for being an idiot?

Finished the season sixth in QBR, threw for more yards than any QB in team history, and in a league with a dearth of talent at the QB position, you say he's only worth one year ten million?

Shit, Sam Bradford will get three years 40 million at least.[/quote]

:laughing2


I was waiting on this. Thanks for the laugh. Dude is high as hell if he thinks offering KC 10 mil is going to fly.

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I really thought the skins were better than this version of GB but I was wrong.

Just not there yet. Scot has work to do and I'm sure he is the first to admit it too.

HTTR and hopefully this is the start to building a championship caliber team

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[quote=kingj;1137153]I really thought the skins were better than this version of GB but I was wrong.

Just not there yet. Scot has work to do and I'm sure he is the first to admit it too.

HTTR and hopefully this is the start to building a championship caliber team[/quote]

Somehow I think Scot most likely had a more realistic idea of this team's ceiling for 2015 than most of us.

If you remember back before the season began he was quoted as saying something like "We may not get a lot of wins this season but you will know you played the Redskins after the game"

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Interested to see what happens with Knighton. Underperformed this year, but on the right deal he can be of value to us. It seemed like he was a huge factor in bringing the locker room together, we need that leadership. Also think we need to go another direction at RB. Love Alfmo - just a case of good but not good enough. I think the off-season checklist looks something like (more or less in this order):

MLB
Younger DL
Center
Left Guard
Corner
Blocking TE
Running Back
Tall Receiver

Really happy with what we got done this season and excited for next year. Ready to see Scot work his magic again this off-season. HTTR

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1137123]Djax is still under contract, correct? No need to extend him this off-season imo.[/quote]

Would love to see Rashad Ross become more that just a return man and be that guy that can take the top off a defense. We need that element in our offense and right now DJax is bringing it. It seemed like our offense really turned a corner when he got healthy.

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[QUOTE=Avinash_Tyagi;1137070]I wouldn't sign Cousins to any extended contract



Sign him to a one year contract, no more than 10 million, with the option to pickup an extended contract if he pans out.



He was okay this season, not fantastic, he didn't lead us to any wins over teams with a winning record, all of our wins came off of teams with 8-8 or worse records.



He may be a good QB, or he may turn out to be another dud, don't pin too much hopes on him just yet.[/QUOTE]


Why the heck would he go for that? He'd get snapped up in a heartbeat. I am hoping you were being sarcastic.


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[quote=Kindoy;1137156]Interested to see what happens with Knighton. Underperformed this year, but on the right deal he can be of value to us. It seemed like he was a huge factor in bringing the locker room together, we need that leadership. Also think we need to go another direction at RB. Love Alfmo - just a case of good but not good enough. I think the off-season checklist looks something like (more or less in this order):

MLB
Younger DL
Center
Left Guard
Corner
Blocking TE
Running Back
Tall Receiver

Really happy with what we got done this season and excited for next year. Ready to see Scot work his magic again this off-season. HTTR[/quote]

Knighton needs to lose 50 pounds. They need at least 2 good DL. The pass rush was inconsistent. There is still a long way to go - we cannot expect the NFC east to remain weak.

The safety position needs help as well....several vets cut.... wise spending on free agents. And obviously another good draft.

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The O line need improved which should definitely help the running game. I really think the Skins lack of a run game hurt them big-time vs GB. They also need to let Morris go and find a more dynamic RB who can also catch passes.

The D needs improving at most positions but the line especially needs improved. I agree Knighton need to lose weight, he's not much good only being able to play 2 plays before he's winded.

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[quote=irish;1137165]The O line need improved which should definitely help the running game. I really think the Skins lack of a run game hurt them big-time vs GB. They also need to let Morris go and find a more dynamic RB who can also catch passes.

The D needs improving at most positions but the line especially needs improved. I agree Knighton need to lose weight, he's not much good only being able to play 2 plays before he's winded.[/quote]

I gotta laugh a lil to hear folks criticizing the Oline...I mean yes kory l and leribus were god awful the second quarter together...but when u don't have a running game and the defense obviously doesn't respect it, rushing the passer becomes easy.

It wasn't like Alfmo was bad, he gashed them several times. But Dom capers clearly was ready for the skins offense gameplan.

And once we flashed in the first quarter, early second; adjustments were made by Green Bay and we were out coached to the tune of 35-7.

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[quote=Schneed10;1137131]Holy shit this guy. Lifetime ban for being an idiot?

Finished the season sixth in QBR, threw for more yards than any QB in team history, and in a league with a dearth of talent at the QB position, you say he's only worth one year ten million?

Shit, Sam Bradford will get three years 40 million at least.[/quote]

You're slipping, Schneed. After reading that idiot's posts, I was practically giddy waiting for a classic response from you. But no! You went easy on him and I'm sorely disappointed.

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmwJQ62Cs_o[/url]

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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1137095]I'm saying offer hims what he's worth, not more

And if he's not willing to accept it, then so be it, he's not so good that we can't afford to lose him.

He's not a top tier QB, I'd hesitate before even putting him in tier two.

We won't be lost without him.[/quote]

Lost?
We'd have no QB......period.
He's proved himself by far, do you not look at numbers and ratings and record books and stuff?

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Sigh. I REALLY wanted that one last night, but as I was telling some friends, I would have said the same thing next week. Signs are pointing up with a traditional offense in place. Sometimes I forget just how many serious injuries we had all year too. A few pieces, another SM draft and we'll be in good shape.

Biggest thing I don't want is us f-ing around with Cousins. Lock him up so that's one less thing to worry about.

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After this season I trust Scot 100%. He will get us to the playoffs on a consistent basis. Look at the nfc east, it's ours for the taking if we want it to be. Dallas has romo but he's old now and coming off another collarbone.. Giants are ok but they have a ton of holes as well and Eli is 35 now? Or close anyway. Philly just sucks

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[quote=Chico23231;1137166]I gotta laugh a lil to hear folks criticizing the Oline...I mean yes kory l and leribus were god awful the second quarter together...but when u don't have a running game and the defense obviously doesn't respect it, rushing the passer becomes easy.

It wasn't like Alfmo was bad, he gashed them several times. But Dom capers clearly was ready for the skins offense gameplan.

And once we flashed in the first quarter, early second; adjustments were made by Green Bay and we were out coached to the tune of 35-7.[/quote]

That's what I'm saying, the Skins don't really have a running game so the D can sit on the pass and rush the passer like crazy. The run game starts with the O line. If that's improved the running game is improved.

Morris did have a couple of nice runs yesterday but since he's no threat to catch a pass it seems obvious that when he's in there's an excellent chance he's gonna run the ball.

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[QUOTE=Avinash_Tyagi;1137086]Then we move on to a new QB, maybe draft one in the offseason or pickup someone in free agency (or both).

Cousins isn't so good that we need to worry about losing him.

Besides 1 year at 10 mil is a great deal[/QUOTE

All i can do is shake my head …please go back and look at the stats Cousins put up on a below average team without any running game .funny you make this post after loss .

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[quote=Meks;1137150]Is this dude fuckin serious? Atlanta, not a loss IMO if garcon doesnt lose the ball and grant doesnt fall the fuck down... lose BOTH to philly without Kirk, lose as hell to tampa... need i go on? Get the fuck off this board and out of a fucking redskins jersey you fucking MORON.
Bye Felicia. You fucking scrub[/quote]

YOU TELL EM!!! Gotta agree with you!! some folks are really not redskin fans at all and have no clue about the game..most likely cowboy trolls..

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[quote=irish;1137174]That's what I'm saying, the Skins don't really have a running game so the D can sit on the pass and rush the passer like crazy. The run game starts with the O line. If that's improved the running game is improved.

Morris did have a couple of nice runs yesterday but since he's no threat to catch a pass it seems obvious that when he's in there's an excellent chance he's gonna run the ball.[/quote]

Another thing, should the game plan be to pass it 72% of the time against a top 3 pass defense?

Not very smart gameplan or coaching imo. In fact, very dumb

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Gruden has a ways to go as a coach. I think he improved from year one to year two. With that said, however, many times this year, it seemed the Skins were out schemed/game planned by opposing coaches.

While I know the running game has been non-existent for most of the year, Gruden doesn't seem particularly committed to it when the rubber hits the road. Ultimately, this is becoming a passing league but, to me, you still must have a commitment and ability to run the ball.

Yesterday, we were essentially one dimensional which has occurred to often over the course of the year. Against good teams, and in the play offs, that just doesn't fly.

We will see what next year brings, and I am hopeful that we will see a better team (even if record is not as good - first place schedule next year). My biggest concern is Gruden's default setting seems to, historically, be a passing game. Hopefully, we take some strides in establishing the run next year so in games like yesterday, the opposing team can't just pin their ears back and come full bore for the QB.

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lets not forget alfred morris is a free agent, but i like jones better

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Id look for us to sign and draft a couple RB. I think it moves to near the top of the list for McC. Anybody who knows and studies McC past knows running the ball is a must from his teams.

I expect at a minimum 2 new RBs on the roster opening day.

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We need a 300+ pound strong as a bull center. Kory L may be smart and knows protections and all, but he can't hold up against guys like Raji. He just isn't strong enough. SM needs to find a center within the first few round of the draft. He can get a RB in the later rounds.

I'd also like to see Redd get a shot next year.

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When our spot comes in the draft, if Jaylon Smith is there (because of torn up knee, he might drop) I would grab him or Kenny Clark DL UCLA.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000609483/article/ucla-dt-kenny-clark-shows-intriguing-potential-in-bowl-loss]UCLA DT Kenny Clark shows intriguing potential in bowl loss - NFL.com[/url]

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I agree. We need a DT with this top pick. Aside from Baker rotating in, who do we have if Hatcher leaves?

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[quote=Chico23231;1137181]Another thing, should the game plan be to pass it 72% of the time against a top 3 pass defense?

Not very smart gameplan or coaching imo. In fact, very dumb[/quote]

What team have you been watching!? They haven't been able to run the ball the majority of the season so they are a pass offense out of necessity. They tried to keep GB a bit honest with some runs but with a line that struggles to run block and a plodding RB like Morris who telegraphs run by virtue of his being in the game I thought they ran too much. Actually I'm surprised that over a quarter of the plays were runs and IMO had they passed a bit more might have had better results on offense.

I get you don't like Gruden but I though he did a great job all season with what was essentially a 1 dimensional offense.

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[quote=irish;1137202]What team have you been watching!? They haven't been able to run the ball the majority of the season so they are a pass offense out of necessity. They tried to keep GB a bit honest with some runs but with a line that struggles to run block and a plodding RB like Morris who telegraphs run by virtue of his being in the game I thought they ran too much. Actually I'm surprised that over a quarter of the plays were runs and IMO had they passed a bit more might have had better results on offense.

I get you don't like Gruden but I though he did a great job all season with what was essentially a 1 dimensional offense.[/quote]

Ive been watching the same team, but you think passing more against a great pass defense was the answer? Yeah, you could be expect more turnovers as well.

11 rushes for 50 yards...4.5 a carry isn't getting stuffed exactly. The argument makes sense if its like 3 or less yards a carry.

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Matt jones will be in the future plans and they will also get another rb or 2 depending on Thompson

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[quote=Defensewins;1137151][B]We need to improve team speed on defense.[/B] DLineman that are disruptive and can get to the qb is a top priority.
We desperately need a top notch Left Guard to solidify our O-line.
We need a big blocking TE that can also be a threat in the passing game. We do not have one that can block. Bringing in a 6th O-lineman is not working.[/quote]

Couldn't agree more with the bolded part . . . we NEED speed bad on defense . . . the defenses in KC, Seattle, AZ, Denver, Carolina . . . what do they all have in common . . . they have extremely fast defenses . . . in this NFL, where passing offenses with fast receivers everywhere, you need to have a fast defense . . . we need new MLB's (yes, with speed) . . .

i also agree with need some new D-Lineman . . . some youth up front there would be nice!! . . . and one more stud corner . . . and a strong safety that is fast and can hit (in the Chancellor mode) . . .

will SM be able to fix this all this off-season? probably not, but if anyone can it is SM!! . . . but either way, i expect he'll address the defense heavily this year . . . and probably some height at WR too . . .and some o-line too . . . new guard?

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Posted this in another thread, fits better in this one:

How to be better next year:
Better guard and center play (more specifically in regards to the running game)
Better pass rush

Both these areas will improve internally when we get injured guys back. Then add a few draft picks up front on both sides and I think we'll be greatly improved there. I also see Alfmo leaving and us drafting another rb.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1137187]Gruden has a ways to go as a coach. I think he improved from year one to year two. With that said, however, many times this year, it seemed the Skins were out schemed/game planned by opposing coaches.

While I know the running game has been non-existent for most of the year, Gruden doesn't seem particularly committed to it when the rubber hits the road. Ultimately, this is becoming a passing league but, to me, you still must have a commitment and ability to run the ball.

Yesterday, we were essentially one dimensional which has occurred to often over the course of the year. Against good teams, and in the play offs, that just doesn't fly.

We will see what next year brings, and I am hopeful that we will see a better team (even if record is not as good - first place schedule next year). My biggest concern is Gruden's default setting seems to, historically, be a passing game. Hopefully, we take some strides in establishing the run next year so in games like yesterday, the opposing team can't just pin their ears back and come full bore for the QB.[/quote]
I think this staff comes into games really well prepared, but definitely in game adjustments are lacking. I don't really know whether that is a game skill that can be learned.

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[quote=irish;1137165]The O line need improved which should definitely help the running game. I really think the Skins lack of a run game hurt them big-time vs GB. They also need to let Morris go and find a more dynamic RB who can also catch passes.

The D needs improving at most positions but the line especially needs improved. I agree Knighton need to lose weight, he's not much good only being able to play 2 plays before he's winded.[/quote]

This is spot on. I'm agreeing with irish way too much lately.

Our RB position is just not good enough, Morris is just not a homerun threat in any fashion. I think your starting RB needs to be that threat, and in the passing game too.

I've come around to chico's thinking on the center position, too. I don't think you outright cut Lichtensteiger but you definitely do what you can to upgrade it. If you successfully upgrade then you can let Steiger go.

Smart player but just not big enough.

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[quote=Chico23231;1137203]Ive been watching the same team, but you think passing more against a great pass defense was the answer? Yeah, you could be expect more turnovers as well.

11 rushes for 50 yards...4.5 a carry isn't getting stuffed exactly. The argument makes sense if its like 3 or less yards a carry.[/quote]

I'm surprised we didn't take more advantage of their passing D. They struggled with coverage in the middle and definitely didn't have the speed to cover DJax. But our line didn't hold up as well as it has against lesser lines (no that's not really shocking). Let's remember KC still posted a 300+ game. (not deducting the 59 yds of sacks), and a 91.7 passer rating.

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We are picking 21st in the draft. Here are the 21st picks since the merger:
[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=1970&year_max=2015&type=&round_min=1&round_max=1&slot_min=21&slot_max=21&league_id=&team_id=&pos_new=qb&pos_new=rb&pos_new=wr&pos_new=te&pos_new=e&pos_new=t&pos_new=g&pos_new=c&pos_new=ol&pos_new=dt&pos_new=de&pos_new=dl&pos_new=lb&pos_new=db&pos_new=k&pos_new=p&college_id=all&conference=any&show=all&order_by=]Draft Finder Query Results | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

Some good names on the list, particularly in recent years. A solid blue-chip player should be reasonably expected.