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there goes Devontae Booker

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I guess he has alot of guys he would roll with left on his board because a 4th round pick in a deep draft like this is way >>>>>>> than a 5th round next year?

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1143128]This trade sucked. If we were going to trade out of the 4th at least secure an extra 4th next year. This trade benefits them, not us.[/quote]

I can't argue that right now because I haven't been a big fan so far. That said, Scot is getting paid to do the job with a crew of pro scouts and a history of building winners so I have to trust that when we look back at this draft next year, we'll be pleased. If you could grade the draft today and be right, you'd be doing what 32 pro teams can't do..

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You gotta give Scot credit because I didn't think it was possible for him to get out of this draft without a decent D-Lineman. Yet, it looks like he might just be able to do it. Hell, I could have picked someone good for our DL this year. This has to count as a Scot screw-up.

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This entire draft has been an exercise in "In Scot we trust." Even though I don't believe 100% of our picks will pan out I have faith in his scouting abilities and general plan, so I will keep the faith. Besides, after the draft there may be players available on other teams that might be available for a trade, or they might be dumped once the draft is over. If we come out of the draft without any d-linemen, or possibly a couple project d-linemen, I trust Scot will make the necessary moves to get us through next year.

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I'm gonna say Jack Allen and a RB in round 5.

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As far as the draft up until this point I give them an A. No doubt. Even picked up a pick with Doctson.
This trade was not an A, but like I said he must have alot of guys he likes left because the only rational thought is "hey Im getting a guy i would have taken here and adding a free pick next year.

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i'm fine with the first 3 rounds, just the trade and skipping dts/rbs in the 4th is a bit weird without having any explanation or whatever.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1143129]there goes Devontae Booker[/quote]

You don't need to update with EVERY player selected. Most of us are following along as well.

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[quote=sevier2;1143137]You don't need to update with EVERY player selected. Most of us are following along as well.[/quote]

I haven't listed every player (or even close), just players I thought might have been of interest to us. Sorry the 10 or so people I have posted about have ruined your day.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1143138]I haven't listed every player (or even close), just players I thought might have been of interest to us. Sorry the 10 or so people I have posted about have ruined your day.[/quote]

No worries, didn't ruin my day in the least.

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[quote=sevier2;1143139]No worries, didn't ruin my day in the least.[/quote]

Glad to hear it.

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1143105]2nd pick is in 2017 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[B]WTF ?[/B][/QUOTE]
That's the good part of it. We will have extra 5th and 6th next year. That's good stuff.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1143140]Glad to hear it.[/quote]

So, back to football then?

There goes Connor McGovner...

Sorry i couldn't resist.

But really, the trade was strange but it seems a lot of people here are considering us contenders with only a few holes to fill while Scot is still looking long term and building for the future.

My money's on the guy getting paid to make those decisions. I'm loving this draft so far.

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[quote=sevier2;1143142]So, back to football then?

They're goes Connor McGovner...

Sorry i couldn't resist.
[/quote]

Touche.

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[quote=sevier2;1143142]So, back to football then?

They're goes Connor McGovner...

Sorry i couldn't resist.

But really, the trade was strange but it seems a lot of people here are considering us contenders with only a few holes to fill while Scot is still looking long term and building for the future.

My money's on the guy getting paid to make those decisions. I'm loving this draft so far.[/quote]

The philosophy is not the issue with me. I think Scot didn't get enough for trading down so far. He shouldn't fall in love with the idea of trading down. This ain't Scot's Discount Trade Center.

I still trust in Scot but I think he got taken on this trade.

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[QUOTE=sevier2;1143142]So, back to football then?



There goes Connor McGovner...



Sorry i couldn't resist.



But really, the trade was strange but it seems a lot of people here are considering us contenders with only a few holes to fill while Scot is still looking long term and building for the future.



My money's on the guy getting paid to make those decisions. I'm loving this draft so far.[/QUOTE]



I dont think it is that black and white. We aren't exactly a rebuilding project of a team imo. We did go 9-7 last year. Id say we are "contenders" to make the playoffs again - no doubt. Id say we can have a pretty damn good team next year. You can build for the future and still try and win now. I think that is what he is doing, and I like it.

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Matt Ioandis
KJ Dillon
Tyvis Powell

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Was that a shitty trade or is it just me?

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I was thinking Reader and NFL Network just mentioned him..

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[quote=30gut;1143146]Matt Ioandis
KJ Dillon
Tyvis Powell[/quote]

Good call.

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Here's everyone's D tackle. Matt Ionannidis? Anybody know anything about him.

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Hey look, we draft a defensive lineman. Hooray!

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Finally got that DT

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[quote=30gut;1143146]Matt Ioandis
KJ Dillon
Tyvis Powell[/quote]

Yes! This guy caught my attention at the Senior Bowl.
Adds to DL depth

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Got an extra pick and a DT. Win! I like it again. SM is on fire.

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Yay, we got a fat boy!

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/matthew-ioannidis?id=2555240]Matthew Ioannidis Draft Profile – NFL.com[/url]

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[url]http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/matthew-ioannidis?id=2555240[/url]

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I like the pick alot.
He apparently fits our scheme nicely. Now he just has to go to work.

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is he better than billings? i guess we'll see.

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Nice call, 30 Gut!

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Warning the following is from PFF and/or Matt's mom

Position fit:

DE in a 3-4 or 3-technique DT in a 4-3 defense.

Stats to know:

Had the seventh-highest pass-rush grade in the nation this past season. Earned a positive grade in every area of the game PFF measures.

What he does best:

• Reads the game. Ioannidis lined up all over the defensive line in Temple’s multiple fronts, and was asked to play both one- and two-gaps. Whatever he was tasked to do, he was very good at reading the play, as well as dealing with his blockers, often looking blocked, but flowing to the path of the running back and getting in on the play. Also gets his hands in passing lanes; he batted down three passes in 2015.

• Rushes the passer. He isn’t a bad player in any facet, but his best attribute is rushing the passer, and his production would likely have been higher had he been allowed to purely play one-gap every snap, rather than spend time at nose tackle or head-up over blockers. Ioannidis notched 33 total pressures this past season and 67 over the past two seasons, and was consistently disrupting the pocket.

• Works for the duration of the play. High-motor may sound like a cliché, but Ioannidis isn’t blocked just because initial surge doesn’t work—he’s prepared to spin the other way, keep fighting, and generally keep working his way to the ball, which produces some late positive plays.

• Temple had him playing all across the D-line, all the way from traditional 3-4 nose tackle, head-up over the center, to the edge of the defense outside of the tackle. He won’t be asked to do nearly as much in the NFL, but the fact that he was able to give all of those techniques a good effort bodes well for his ability to adjust to the next level.

• Can throw on anchors against double teams really well for a player of his size.

Biggest concern:

• He isn’t the best athlete in the world. Wins more with strength and motor than he does with quickness and burst, which is an issue for a guy best-suited for a one-gap system, because the standard of lineman in the NFL is far higher.

• Doesn’t have an array of pass-rushing moves. Usually just attacks a gap and then works towards the ball. He’ll use an occasional spin move, but needs to add a variety of ways to win to his repertoire.

• Was virtually eliminated from the game as a pass-rusher when he faced Notre Dame, arguably the best line Temple played against over the past two seasons. That will raise question marks about how his play will translate to the NFL level. Recorded no pressures in 31 pass-rushing snaps in that game.

Pro style comparison:

Kendall Langford, Indianapolis Colts. Like Ioannidis, Langford isn’t the best athlete in the world, but he has been able to be relatively productive as an interior pass-rusher across multiple schemes in his NFL career. His potential was seen as perhaps higher than he ever fully realized, and there is a danger that also rings true for Ioannidis.

Bottom line:

Matt Ioannidis was an extremely productive college player for Temple, where he was one of the most important parts of a very good defense. He played all over their defensive line and was a consistently-disruptive force. He figures to be scheme diverse in the NFL, and has skills that should translate, but the concern is that he just doesn’t have the required athleticism to continue that production at the next level against better athletes. He is a very intriguing prospect, and a player with a lot to like, and who should fit any scheme in the NFL.

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Shoulda stayed put and got billings. Don't like it at all

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well, he's basically a pure power NT. plug the gap and do the dirty work. does very little in passing situations though, according to that scouting report on nfl.com.

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[quote=That Guy;1143158]is he better than billings? i guess we'll see.[/quote]

There's gotta be a reason he slipped so far. Whatever it is, I trust our GM. Obviously not every pick will work out but he's got the pedigree.

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Versatile, good motor, good 5th rounder.

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Scott obviously goes with motor and attitude over pure athletes who might not be driven.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1143161]Shoulda stayed put and got billings. Don't like it at all[/QUOTE]



I wanted Billings, but one thing I didnt like is he has alligator arms. Wont be able to get his hands up in pass defense.
This guy seems like a good solid work horse.

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traded down again

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What did we get this time?