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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1145552]How about we give our current RB's a chance before panicking.[/quote]

you need two good RBs.... I will give them another game or two. Everyone has focused on Jones fumbling problems, even if he has solved the problem, he averaged 3.4 ypc . Hardly a rookie season worthy of being handed the #1 RB position.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1145561]you need two good RBs.... I will give them another game or two. Everyone has focused on Jones fumbling problems, even if he has solved the problem, he averaged 3.4 ypc . Hardly a rookie season worthy of being handed the #1 RB position.[/quote]

Jones and Marshall didn't get many touches, tough to judge them on that. Jones had a good run called back on a penalty, had another decent run and was grabbed by one leg by Weatherspoon and pushed back.

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Chance, Schmantz! None of the younger players besides Jones is ready to carry the load.

Nobody is freaking out about the RB's. They're just telling the truth which is that our RB's are not a strong group. Matt Jones needs a solid backup and that person is not yet on the team.

I think we're going to be forced to pick up a veteran RB who can help us get through this season. It seems to me that the right mix would be Jones, a veteran pickup, Thompson (3rd down), and one of the young RB's.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1145566]Chance, Schmantz! None of the younger players besides Jones is ready to carry the load.

Nobody is freaking out about the RB's. They're just telling the truth which is that our RB's are not a strong group. Matt Jones needs a solid backup and that person is not yet on the team.

I think we're going to be forced to pick up a veteran RB who can help us get through this season. It seems to me that the right mix would be Jones, a veteran pickup, Thompson (3rd down), and one of the young RB's.[/quote]

Pierre Thomas is available and is our insurance policy. There is no reason to get worked up until he is signed by someone else.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1145577]Pierre Thomas is available and is our insurance policy. There is no reason to get worked up until he is signed by someone else.[/quote]

Thomas is more of a receiver than a runner. He had 52 yards rushing last year.... he is not the answer. There will be some decent running backs cut in a few weeks.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1145578]Thomas is more of a receiver than a runner. He had 52 yards rushing last year.... he is not the answer. There will be some decent running backs cut in a few weeks.[/quote]

Agreed, but Thomas knows the offense, and has a history with the coaching staff. One last point, there is no reason to have a veteran running back taking the practice reps from the young players.

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Not sure why people are already complaining about the running. Guess what? That's not what we're going to do best. It is what it is. I wouldn't be surprised if Cousins has around 650 attempts.

Question. Do the Patriots worry about their running game? Never. Obviously KC isn't Tom Brady, but I really expect him to pick up where he left off at the last half of 15 and take it to another level of play.

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We're definitely a passing team now, but we still need to run more effectively than last year. No reason why that can't happen.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1145609]Not sure why people are already complaining about the running. Guess what? That's not what we're going to do best. It is what it is. I wouldn't be surprised if Cousins has around 650 attempts.

Question. Do the Patriots worry about their running game? Never. Obviously KC isn't Tom Brady, but I really expect him to pick up where he left off at the last half of 15 and take it to another level of play.[/quote]

New England has a def & ST that don't give up more then 20 pt/game too.
We haven't proven that we have that in our tool belt just yet.

We will face some better teams this year (tougher schedule) & being one dimensional against good teams usually isn't a good game plan.

It would be nice to be able to extend some drives, eat some clock & keep the defense off the field.

Callahan is the best o-line coach in the league. What he's done with Pass Pro is amazing here. But he also developed Dallas into a top rushing attack. I just can't understand why it hasn't translated here quite yet.

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[quote=Bangee7;1145617]Callahan is the best o-line coach in the league. What he's done with Pass Pro is amazing here. But he also developed Dallas into a top rushing attack. I just can't understand why it hasn't translated here quite yet.[/quote]

I know this is heresy, should his running schemes be simplified?

Lavau said in an interview during camp they had about 13 different run schemes:

[url=http://www.espn980.com/redskins-audio/]Redskins Audio | ESPN 980[/url]

It's the interview from 8-9-16.

Cooley seems to suggest that it might be tough to master that many schemes.

All of our starters are going into the second year of this offense with Callahan as the Oline coach and run game coordinator.

They shouldn't have to pause and think as much as they were in Atlanta at the snap of the ball.

His line performed well in Dallas and, in theory, that should translate here. But, we really don't know how many different schemes he was allowed to run in Dallas and how complicated those were.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1145609]Not sure why people are already complaining about the running. Guess what? That's not what we're going to do best. It is what it is. I wouldn't be surprised if Cousins has around 650 attempts.

Question. [B][COLOR="Red"]Do the Patriots worry about their running game? Never. Obviously KC isn't Tom Brady, [/COLOR][/B] but I really expect him to pick up where he left off at the last half of 15 and take it to another level of play.[/quote]

New England was 7th in the league in rushing.... 151 yards per game

[url=http://www.nfl.com/teams/newenglandpatriots/statistics?team=NE]New England Patriots Stats at NFL.com[/url]

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1. Schreff and Moses working together on the right side, both coming off their 1st year as starters
2. Lauvao coming back healthy and starting at left guard
3. Matt Jones entering the fold with a year experience and as "the man"
4. Whole team confident after a solid second half playoff run
5. Another year to assimilate in Callahan, mcvay and gruden's offense

I like our chances of being a stronger running team. My biggest fear is depth at the position

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Running back update:


Seventh-rounder Keith Marshall has been working as the Redskins' No. 4 running back at practice this week following his brutal preseason opener.

He's now behind Matt Jones, Chris Thompson, and undrafted [B]rookie "Robert Kelley[/B]." Marshall received five carries against the Falcons last Thursday night, but turned them into negative-one yards rushing. The offensive line was part of the problem, but Marshall showed a tendency to try to bounce every run outside. At 5'11/222 with 4.31 speed, Marshall looks the part, but he's in a fight for a roster spot, even after GM Scot McCloughan talked him up nine days ago.

per the Washington post.

watch that dude in bold....training camp hero full effect!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'll be interested to see if Marshall can do anything against 3rd/4th stringers like Kelley did. Where's my boy Mack Brown in that rotation?!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1145632]I'll be interested to see if Marshall can do anything against 3rd/4th stringers like Kelley did. [B]Where's my boy Mack Brown in that rotation?![/B][/quote]

Gearing up for his future employment by standing in front of a mirror and repeating "Would you like fries with that?" over and over and over ...

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I don't see nothin wrong with a little bump & grind.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1145642]I don't see nothin wrong with a little bump & grind.[/QUOTE]



Lets keep it clean in here......

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1145621]I know this is heresy, should his running schemes be simplified?

Lavau said in an interview during camp they had about 13 different run schemes:

[url=http://www.espn980.com/redskins-audio/]Redskins Audio | ESPN 980[/url]

It's the interview from 8-9-16.

Cooley seems to suggest that it might be tough to master that many schemes.

All of our starters are going into the second year of this offense with Callahan as the Oline coach and run game coordinator.

They shouldn't have to pause and think as much as they were in Atlanta at the snap of the ball.

His line performed well in Dallas and, in theory, that should translate here. But, we really don't know how many different schemes he was allowed to run in Dallas and how complicated those were.[/quote]

well, 13 schemes would explain some confusion. sometimes it pays to dumb it down a bit. I'm sure they'll get it figured out- but I would feel much better if it started sooner rather than later.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1145641]Gearing up for his future employment by standing in front of a mirror and repeating "Would you like fries with that?" over and over and over ...[/quote]

At least at five guys right?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1145641]Gearing up for his future employment by standing in front of a mirror and repeating "Would you like fries with that?" over and over and over ...[/quote]

Marshall can go to Canada / CFL where the field is 65 yards wide.... he can run 30 or 40 yards to gain 1 yard

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[quote=Irrefutable;1145681]Marshall can go to Canada / CFL where the field is 65 yards wide.... he can run 30 or 40 yards to gain 1 yard[/quote]

Man, that was harsh! He has a few more games to show some flashes of his potential.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1145692]Man, that was harsh! He has a few more games to show some flashes of his potential.[/quote]

I hope I am wrong, I thought Marshall was a good pick.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1145693]I hope I am wrong, I thought Marshall was a good pick.[/quote]

He needs playing time and experience, he was a 5 star recruit out of high school, injuries affected his college career. I have high hopes for him.

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7th round lottery ticket basicly.

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we giving up on this years draft picks already, huh?


And McC draft picks at that?

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[quote=Chico23231;1145704]we giving up on this years draft picks already, huh?[/quote]

Kelly has shown more so far.