Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=punch it in;1152779]I hear what you are saying completely. It is ultimately up to the player. Remember that only recently did the nfl make this a serious issue though. Therefore there probably isn't a whole lot of data on guys retiring early because of it. All the old timers found out after they were already effed up. You have a few that have walked away since so much light was cast on the problem. As research becomes clearer and these guys make more money faster you will see more make that decision.[/quote]

All fair assumptions to make. But probably not applicable to Jordan Reed specifically, since he said he plans to continue playing.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Schneed10;1152778]"Should" and "will" are entirely different. I would probably agree with "should" myself. But that's not what got my attention, what got my attention was these assertions that Reed [U]will[/U] have a shortened career. They're not at all fact-based.

He has said he intends to keep playing. So unless somebody can demonstrate through data that concussions lead to a high likelihood of a shortened career [U]against the player's will[/U], then this is stupid[/B].[/quote]

Since there really isn't any reliable data on player concussions over the last 50 years, you have a wonderful world of denial built for yourself.

Simple question:
Can multiple concussions over a period of few years affect a player's physical abilities?

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Schneed10;1152778]"Should" and "will" are entirely different. I would probably agree with "should" myself. But that's not what got my attention, what got my attention was these [COLOR="Red"]assertions that Reed [U]will[/U] have a shortened career.[/COLOR] [COLOR="Green"]They're not at all fact-based.[/COLOR]

He has said he intends to keep playing. So unless somebody can demonstrate through data that concussions lead to a high likelihood of a shortened career [U]against the player's will[/U], then this is stupid.[/quote]

[COLOR="Red"]I reiterate, no one has said that on this thread.[/COLOR]

[COLOR="SeaGreen"]So what?
This is a discussion board, we're discussing, or stating opinions and making future predictions, thats what sports fans do.[/COLOR]

Re: Jordan Reed
 

Doesn't look like he'll play

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Re: Jordan Reed
 

Reed is making an 8 figure salary. If we were in his shoes we'd keep playing and worry about the health risks later. He only has a short period of time where he can make his money. This isn't golf. Get your money Jordan and prey you're ok later on in life.

Jordan Reed
 

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1152791]Reed is making an 8 figure salary. If we were in his shoes we'd keep playing and worry about the health risks later. He only has a short period of time where he can make his money. This isn't golf. Get your money Jordan and prey you're ok later on in life.[/QUOTE]



If i made one 8 figure salary id be able to make that work while chilling in the Caribbean for the rest of eternity. Just sayin...
And money aint worth quality of life. I hope to hell he bounces back and has a long ass career for us. He is one hell of a tight end.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=MTK;1152741]Everyone is a neurologist these days.[/quote]

Myself, I've always been a fake neurologist.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

This thread on the first 3 pages are a bunch of crabby apples. Goodness, its ok to disagree with each other.

I'm not worried about him retiring soon, but I am worried for his distant future.

Hopefully for everyone, the medical technology in the future can help cure some of these issues caused by too many head injuries.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;1152787][COLOR="Red"]I reiterate, no one has said that on this thread.[/COLOR]

[COLOR="SeaGreen"]So what?
This is a discussion board, we're discussing, or stating opinions and making future predictions, thats what sports fans do.[/COLOR][/quote]

Don't rush the season, bro. Let Halloween and Thanksgiving have their day.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1152785]Since there really isn't any reliable data on player concussions over the last 50 years, you have a wonderful world of denial built for yourself.

Simple question:
Can multiple concussions over a period of few years affect a player's physical abilities?[/quote]

Yes, though as evidenced by years and years of boxing, those effects don't typically set in until much later in life, after the athlete has long passed his playing days. There is very little history, proportionally speaking, of players and boxers having their physical abilities compromised until they are in their 40s, 50s, and beyond.

Jordan Reed
 

For the record I am simply saying he should retire. One thing that has plenty of data to back it up is that you can compromise your quality of life in a huge way if you keep getting your coconut rattled. One thing that does not need data to support it is that all the money in the world is not worth it. Why take the chance? For fame and fortune? He has millions. He can get any number of better jobs than most of us can.
You guys are both talking impossible talk as there is and will never be data on his specific noggin. Every concussion is different for every person. So are the effects.
But why in the hell gamble on your well being?
Im not saying you get hit hard you quit, but 6 "known" concussions in a few years is enough to make me walk away.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=punch it in;1152827]For the record I am simply saying he should retire. One thing that has plenty of data to back it up is that you can compromise your quality of life in a huge way if you keep getting your coconut rattled. One thing that does not need data to support it is that all the money in the world is not worth it. Why take the chance? For fame and fortune? He has millions. He can get any number of better jobs than most of us can.
You guys are both talking impossible talk as there is and will never be data on his specific noggin. Every concussion is different for every person. So are the effects.
But why in the hell gamble on your well being?
Im not saying you get hit hard you quit, but 6 "known" concussions in a few years is enough to make me walk away.[/quote]

That's the whole crux of the reason why we're talking past each other; some of us are talking "should" others are talking what Reed will do.

TBH I don't care what you would do. I care about Jordan Reed.

Love Schneed

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Schneed10;1152833]That's the whole crux of the reason why we're talking past each other; some of us are talking "should" others are talking what Reed will do.

TBH I don't care what you would do. I care about Jordan Reed.

Love Schneed[/quote]

Yea but Jordan Reed doesn't post here.
So you'll just have to read what us scrubs write.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

just got off the phone w jordan reed, he said he'll honor whatever we decide via vote. said he needs a minimum of 11 votes on the subject.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=los panda;1152835]just got off the phone w jordan reed, he said he'll honor whatever we decide via vote. said he needs a minimum of 11 votes on the subject.[/quote]

The vote will be rigged anyway. You know certain powerful influences want him to play.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;1152833]That's the whole crux of the reason why we're talking past each other; some of us are talking "should" others are talking what Reed will do.



TBH I don't care what you would do. I care about Jordan Reed.



Love Schneed[/QUOTE]



He has better hands, but Im a better blocker.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[QUOTE=los panda;1152835]just got off the phone w jordan reed, he said he'll honor whatever we decide via vote. said he needs a minimum of 11 votes on the subject.[/QUOTE]



By my count it is 5-2 in favor of him walking away. 6-2 if you include me role playing as Jordan Reed. Sort of a gray area on how Schneed feels about role played Jordan, so give or take a vote...

Re: Jordan Reed
 

no practice for Reed again today...he is all but out.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1152841]no practice for Reed again today...he is all but out.[/QUOTE]



Keep him out until after the bye. We can beat the Lions, and Tigers (and bears - oh my) without him. Let him get 110% for the playoff run

Re: Jordan Reed
 

Pretty sure Schneed has him in a $500.00 keeper league.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

Yep officially out

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Re: Jordan Reed
 

Note that since the concussion protocol was instituted the typical absence following a concussion has been two weeks. It can be longer but it's not often shorter.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

I think I said this before but I dont want him playing against that POS brufict in London.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=over the mountain;1152868]I think I said this before but I dont want him playing against that POS brufict in London.[/quote]

good call, can't we just let scherff go enforcer on burfict on the first play?

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[QUOTE=los panda;1152884]good call, can't we just let scherff go enforcer on burfict on the first play?[/QUOTE]
I like the way you think! [emoji6] [emoji106]

Re: Jordan Reed
 

Jordan Reed will be back! I'm anxious for his return.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=kct1975;1152915]I like the way you think! [emoji6] [emoji106][/quote]

you would have liked the way i played :devil:

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/health/kevin-turner-cte-diagnosis/index.html]Kevin Turner, former NFL player, diagnosed with CTE - CNN.com[/url]

Kevin Turner died of CTE. The worst case ever found, severe enough to kill a 40 year old. They thought he died of ALS. But in autopsy they found he did not have ALS or snything else, but he had a severe case of CTE. It killed him. Not suicide or other usual associated cause.

Re: Jordan Reed
 

Flag football, here we come!

Re: Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;1154669]Flag football, here we come![/quote]

Not flag football, but maybe we'll come to the obligation of tackling with your arms, wrapping the guy. I know it has to sound absurd, like the absolute pussyfication of football... but this rules exists in rugby, it forces the defender to actually tackle, you cannot just launch yourself into the opponent, and you have to tackle below the shoulders. Personally I've never been a fan of big hits, I like the facts that it's a physical sport, I've played CB so I appreciate the courage it takes to get down and tackle a guy twice your weight, but seeing a guy get "lit out" isn't fun to me.

Anyway this probably wouldn't even be enough, it ever were to be done. There are a awful lot of concussions in rugby, and they are way behind in the implementation of the concussion protocol. They are just beginning to talk about CTE, only two known cases, but the institutions are in complete denial, so it's really hard to know if the "rate" of CTE is as high in rugby as it is in football.