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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1154228]In our division, by winning % we are in last place now.

I'm actually rooting for the Eagles tonight. Still going for 1st place.[/QUOTE]
We have same amount of wins as NYG and Phi and we beat both

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We'll beat Minnesota after they bye

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1154226]U have to chill out man lol no we are not[/quote]

We can still make the playoffs, but we need to learn to finish drives. This red zonecurse needs to be exorcised!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1154229]We have same amount of wins as NYG and Phi and we beat both[/quote]

I'm not worried because it can change in a week, but look at the standings. We're in last place right now. You have to actually be tied with someone to have the tie breaker.

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If you have 4 wins in 8 games, and another team has 4 wins in 7 games, they're ahead of you.

One of my best buddies is a Vikings fan, if I had to pick a non division game to win, that would be the one.

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We have left:

Vikes (home)
Packers (home)
Dallas (away)
AZ (away)
Philly (away)
Carolina (home)
Chicago (away)
NYG (home)

None of these teams is a sure win or loss (Chicago might be the closest thing -- we ought to hammer them), and Carolina, Green Bay, and Arizona aren't looking as scary as they did at the start of the season. But we still haven't put together a complete game, and until we do, we will have at best mixed results against these teams. Honestly, I could see us doing anything between 2-6 and 6-2 (I don't see us doing much worse or better than that) -- and the best case puts us right on the edge of the playoff picture.

Losing (or failing to win) games that you were in until the end (Lions, Bengals, Cowboys) really hurts. The really good teams find ways to win most of those. We're just not there yet.

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I feel like we'll finish 8-7-1 and that tie will haunt us.

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[quote=MTK;1154237]I feel like we'll finish 8-7-1 and that tie will haunt us.[/quote]

I think so too. 8-7-1 or 9-6-1 is my next guess.

Hopkins has to make that kick. I typed that right as the Chargers kicker pulled a Hopkins. FG kickers are pudding soft except for like 3 of them.

I'm in SD so they're my AFC team.

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[quote=MTK;1154237]I feel like we'll finish 8-7-1 and that tie will haunt us.[/quote]

But if we finish over .500 and miss the playoffs I won't love it, but it would still be a positive step. 2 straight years over .500 for us is good. I think next year is when we become dangerous. We have extra picks and a nice salary cap situation. Next year I think we go legit. 10 + wins in 2017.

Although I predicted 11-5 this year. We'd have to win 7 of 8 now to get to 11. So I could just be John Denver, full of shit.

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[quote=calia;1154236]We have left:

Vikes (home)
Packers (home)
Dallas (away)
AZ (away)
Philly (away)
Carolina (home)
Chicago (away)
NYG (home)

None of these teams is a sure win or loss (Chicago might be the closest thing -- we ought to hammer them), and Carolina, Green Bay, and Arizona aren't looking as scary as they did at the start of the season. But we still haven't put together a complete game, and until we do, we will have at best mixed results against these teams. Honestly, I could see us doing anything between 2-6 and 6-2 (I don't see us doing much worse or better than that) -- and the best case puts us right on the edge of the playoff picture.

Losing (or failing to win) games that you were in until the end (Lions, Bengals, Cowboys) really hurts. The really good teams find ways to win most of those. We're just not there yet.[/quote]

I agree, but throw Chicago in there too. We can beat 95% of teams and lose to 100% of teams if we don't bring it.

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Penalties and missed FGs killed us. We beat this team on the field.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1154242]Penalties and missed FGs killed us. We beat this team on the field.[/QUOTE]
We do that every week! It's so frustrating but it also shows that we are getting better overall. We used to get beat all around the field. Now it's us doing it to ourselves. Again we had a bad game today for 2 full Qtrs and still didn't lose. Not bad

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8 wins is our ceiling. This team lacks a killer instinct and is very inconsistent. I can see us sweeping the eagles and giants, but everyone else is a toss up, and even our divisional games aren't a sure thing.

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[QUOTE=FlyerSkin;1154244]8 wins is our ceiling. This team lacks a killer instinct and is very inconsistent. I can see us sweeping the eagles and giants, but everyone else is a toss up, and even our divisional games aren't a sure thing.[/QUOTE]
I said 9-7 I'm sticking with 9-6-1

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Someone please tell me Gruden was being sarcastic about saying he didn't know you could tie? And he didn't understand how a team could tie last week? Is he really that fucking stupid?

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Bengals are ghetto punks!!

[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/WATCH-Bengals-and-Redskins-get-into-postgame-altercation-48630383]WATCH: Bengals and Redskins get into postgame altercation[/url]

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It's really frustrating to hear gruden say "we got to get back to running the ball" or "we abandoned the run there for awhile". He siad this shit after halftime today.

Your the fuckin head coach, do something about it. I've heard this said 3 to 4 times after games, during games.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1154228]In our division, by winning % we are in last place now.



I'm actually rooting for the Eagles tonight. Still going for 1st place.[/QUOTE]



There is one game in the win column separating our entire division from top to bottom. We beat the Eagles. We beat the Giants. We gave a game to Dallas. I would hope you are still going for first place. Lol

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10-5-1.

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These last 2 games should have been wins...just brutal.

I appreciate the fight and how competitive this team is...which is a big positive and really defines this team since this time last last year. Other than that pathetic Pittsburgh game, we have played with the intensity which keeps us in every game.

But what is aggravating is when we fucking dominant our opponent (like we did in the first half today, no question) but we can't get the ball in the end zone for td scores OR have lapses on special teams or dumb penalty or turnover which keeps the opponents in the game with easy scores. I've seen this multiple times this season where we should have 2 score or double digit leads,but we let the other team hang around.

this is what pisses me the fuck off. I blame the coaches and the players...

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1154260]10-5-1.[/QUOTE]
I think we win 5 more games. Beat Minnesota, Dallas, philly, NY and Chicago. Make the wild card and win on the road!

Worst case 8-7-1

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I say we beat Minn, Packers, Philly, NY, Carolina, Bears.

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PFF has Anthony Lanier as the 5th best defensive player today. I know he recovered the fumble, but i did not notice him most of the game. He did not register a tackle in the game stats.

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well that was some crazy shit.

looks like matt jones is worthless after all.

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First and foremost- this team has fight.

It wasn't too long ago, that we were finishing below .500 every year.

I know it sucks to lose tight games, but....at least we are IN these games to the end. It wasn't always like that.

So, that's step #1.

Step #2 is to learn to finish more of these games & bring home the win.

It won't take take much to get to step 2 consistently.
Josh Norman needs called out by his teammates to cut out the stupid penalties.
He knows better- he'll clean it up.

Hopkins- I am still behind this guy. Yeah, he had a bad game & missed a few make-able kicks. He is still light years ahead of the chumps we used to roll through here.
Anyone remember the (what was it?) 8-10 years of sub-par kickers?
He's still young & he'll reflect & learn from this.

So we get to the halfway point & now have a bye week.
Time to get healthy, look back on what could have been better & get a plan to fix it.

Things are not all bleak...there is a lot of positive to be taken from the crappy outcome today.

We're at the half way mark & we're 1.5 games over .500. We all know it could be more & so do the players & coaches. That should give everyone more confidence & resolve to get the rest of the little things ironed out & start rocking for the second half & the playoff run.

Hail!

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Is it okay to feel the need to physically beat the entire ref crew today? FFS, the game was over 4 hours long and about a third of the penalties were just bullshit. Isn't it clear the league ratings are way fucking down...clean this bulkshit up now goodell. It's unwatchable and all these commercial timeouts to go along with this crap makes watching an entire game tough.

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Yes. Just don't act on that feeling :)

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They are still a few players away on defense, and they can play sloppy and make a ton of mistakes and still almost win against decent teams.

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[quote=Chico23231;1154256]It's really frustrating to hear gruden say "we got to get back to running the ball" or "we abandoned the run there for awhile". He siad this shit after halftime today.

Your the fuckin head coach, do something about it. I've heard this said 3 to 4 times after games, during games.[/quote]
I agree. He is the HC, he is the emperor of the team, get it done!!!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1154197]We're not winning the SB. But making the playoffs 2 years in a row would be excellent progress. So that's what I want. This tie might haunt us later.

We need to run the ball more. Gotta keep pounding it even if it doesn't work immediately. Both to have the run be a threat and to wear down their front 7.[/quote]

100% agree with you there. I've never seen the Skins make consecutive playoff berths since I've been old enough to remember. There's still hope this season cab make it happen!

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Today was frustrating. At least we're still over .500. Skins are known to rally at the end of the season. We still have a good shot at the playoffs.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1154189]The referees missed a flying missile into the side of Jackson's head, that knocked him out of the game, and Crowder almost getting his neck broke, but somehow they were able to see the smallest most minuscule contact on Garcon for the softest penalty in NFL history. Just amazing. The NFL better say something about this game. Gooddell, do something you bum.[/quote]

Seriously.

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[quote=Chico23231;1154193]Team isn't going anywhere this year. Less impressed than most here...penalties, red zone offense and throwing 56 times a game equals loss. We beat this team today but too dumb to win[/quote]

It funny that you mention that the Skins are too dumb to win because I was listening on radio and Doc Walker kept talking about embarrassing it would be to lose to a team as stupid as Cincy but every time something stupid was happening it seemed to be a Skin doing it. This team should be 7-1 but like you said Chico, they are too dumb to win.

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I want to see accountability from the team, and so I feel, that a guy like Hopkins should be cut. Send the message that when you make mistakes that cost your team the game, it will not be tolerated. Kickers are a dime a dozen, not like we are asking to cut a QB or starting WR.

If he can't be trusted to kick what amounted to be an extra point, then he cannot be counted on period.

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All of this is a wash if we come back strong and healthy and beat a one dimensionsal Vikings team in 2 weeks.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1154250]Someone please tell me Gruden was being sarcastic about saying he didn't know you could tie? And he didn't understand how a team could tie last week? Is he really that fucking stupid?[/quote]

Since no one has defended Gruden I have to assume he's that stupid,Our coaches suck

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This team is so demoralizing to watch. Even when they are doing well, I feel like I am waiting for the other shoe to fall.

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[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1154285]I want to see accountability from the team, and so I feel, that a guy like Hopkins should be cut. Send the message that when you make mistakes that cost your team the game, it will not be tolerated. Kickers are a dime a dozen, not like we are asking to cut a QB or starting WR.



If he can't be trusted to kick what amounted to be an extra point, then he cannot be counted on period.[/QUOTE]


Cutting Hopkins does nothing to solve the real problem... scoring in the redzone.

Hopkins has been a nice find, I wouldn't cut him off one miss and I think that sends the wrong message anyway.

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[quote=Chico23231;1154261]These last 2 games should have been wins...just brutal.

I appreciate the fight and how competitive this team is...which is a big positive and really defines this team since this time last last year. Other than that pathetic Pittsburgh game, we have played with the intensity which keeps us in every game.

But what is aggravating is when we fucking dominant our opponent (like we did in the first half today, no question) but we can't get the ball in the end zone for td scores OR have lapses on special teams or dumb penalty or turnover which keeps the opponents in the game with easy scores. I've seen this multiple times this season where we should have 2 score or double digit leads,but we let the other team hang around.

this is what pisses me the fuck off. I blame the coaches and the players...[/quote]

I share your frustration that we haven't been able to finish games. It's a damn shame that we failed to pick up wins the last two weeks. We could be 6-2 right now. But we're not.

What we are is competitive. Right now, I'd say there are fewer than half a dozen teams in the league that I'd expect to dominate us in any given game. That's real progress.

All year I've been trying to keep my emotions in check because i believe we are still one off-season (one FA period and one Draft) away from becoming a perennial contender. If we compete for a playoff spot this season, it's gravy, as far as I'm concerned.

Rash changes in the coaching staff or player personnel is the last thing I want to see right now. We're headed in the right direction, so I'd hate to see the decision-makers rock the boat during the season. The off-season is the time to make all of those assessments and decisions, IMO.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1154289]Since no one has defended Gruden I have to assume he's that stupid,Our coaches suck[/quote]

He's not that stupid. It was a smart-ass remark reflecting his frustration. Jay Gruden is a keeper, IMO. Now, as for some of his assistants, he needs to take a hard look, in the [U]off-season[/U], on whether or not they should be retained.