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I actually heard a few talking about it today...

Most of them saying if anything, he IS a businessman and traders like that.

Trust me, I'm definitely someone who takes stuff the media says with a grain of salt, but I did see quite a bit on it today.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1154907]This the attitude that lost the dems the election...deplorables. The media backed up this attitude and people are sick of the false narrative. Dem lost because Obama wasn't a good president and Hillary was poor in her previous leadership positions.



But you know, you have to be knowledgeable and have to think to have those arguments. It's easy just to yell racist, bigot, anti women, anti blah blah blah[/QUOTE]



Let us forget all of the bigoted comments he made. And he did make them. Let us forget all of the sexist comments he has made about women. And he did make them. How about the fact that this two bit con artist is absolutely out of his league on a world stage? How about the fact that he is absolutely out of his league period.
I simply underestimated how many uneducated, racist, desperate, deplorable morons there were out there that were going to vote for their false messiah. He is not, and never will be my President.
Fuck him and the orange racist horse made in China that he rode in on. The entire world is laughing at us except for Putin. Another deplorable piece of garbage. 2020 can not come soon enough. Of course there is always a chance that Major Mo Mo kicks the bucket before that.

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[quote=punch it in;1154932]Let us forget all of the bigoted comments he made. And he did make them. Let us forget all of the sexist comments he has made about women. And he did make them. How about the fact that this two bit con artist is absolutely out of his league on a world stage? How about the fact that he is absolutely out of his league period.
I simply underestimated how many uneducated, racist, desperate, deplorable morons there were out there that were going to vote for their false messiah. He is not, and never will be my President.
Fuck him and the orange racist horse made in China that he rode in on. The entire world is laughing at us except for Putin. Another deplorable piece of garbage. 2020 can not come soon enough. Of course there is always a chance that Major Mo Mo kicks the bucket before that.[/quote]

forget? How could you forget "Grab them by the p(meow)y". Now that he is Pres, Id like to see them put that on a commemorative stamp, coin or something.

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[quote=punch it in;1154932]Let us forget all of the bigoted comments he made. And he did make them. Let us forget all of the sexist comments he has made about women. And he did make them. How about the fact that this two bit con artist is absolutely out of his league on a world stage? How about the fact that he is absolutely out of his league period.
I simply underestimated how many uneducated, racist, desperate, deplorable morons there were out there that were going to vote for their false messiah. He is not, and never will be my President.
Fuck him and the orange racist horse made in China that he rode in on. The entire world is laughing at us except for Putin. Another deplorable piece of garbage. 2020 can not come soon enough. Of course there is always a chance that Major Mo Mo kicks the bucket before that.[/quote]

I didn't know that 50+ million Americans were uneducated racist, desperate deplorable morons.
Thats a lot.

And if you look at the poll above this thread you will note that at least 9 Warpath members are uneducated racist, desperate deplorable morons.

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[quote=Giantone;1154909]What was false about anything I said?[/quote]

I think this is where the leftists are going to struggle. Focusing on his personality and the perception of him.

Perception is reality and for many their perception says everything you stated it correct while for an equal amount their perception says you're wrong. Either way though the cold reality is...it didn't matter. How someone campaigns and secures support to become president seems to shift wildly from election to election. This time around many seemed to make the internal argument of "We're not electing the nice person, we're electing the more capable person."

This election wasn't about whether trump is a meanie or a nice dude. It was about years of neglect for the lower middle class in the middle of this country on the part of DC politicians. The one person charismatic enough and outsider enough came along and said "drain the swamp" and every factory worker sitting on their couch looking for a new job said "Finally!" It didn't matter that he's an asshole. They voted in spite of that. The same message from someone equally as media savvy with a better reputation and a nicer demeanor would have made this a blowout across the board.

Right message
Right time
Sorta right guy

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1154935]I didn't know that 50+ million Americans were uneducated racist, desperate deplorable morons.

Thats a lot.



And if you look at the poll above this thread you will note that at least 9 Warpath members are uneducated racist, desperate deplorable morons.[/QUOTE]



Yup i will not sugar coating anything. If you voted for Donald Trump there is something wrong in your head. Warpath member or not.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1154923]Nearly everything you said was either patently false, or politically twisted. It's simply not worth refuting it point by point because I know we would just talk past each other. You won't agree with my point (proven by your lack of response to my last post) and I am confident you won't convince me.[/quote]
My post....
The Bigots and the racist won,they elected a man to president who openly tried to disgrace a gold star family ,they elected a man who doesn't know what the "NUCLEAR TRIAD " is ,they elected a man who openly ask the leader of a enemy nation to rig the election,they elected a man who will not treat your daughter with respect he just wants to crab them by their *****(his own words) and they elected a man who does not honer his word or his debts.They elected Donald Trump.
1) Yes he tried to disgrace a gold star family...no media spin
2)He does not know what the "Nuclear Triad is ...check first debate ,again no media spin.
3)Trump urged Russia to hack Hillary's e-mail fact,
[url=http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-putin-no-relationship-226282]Trump urges Russia to hack Clinton's email - POLITICO[/url]
4)How he treats women,you don't have an argument ,it is well know what he says and does.
5) Again a man know for not paying his debts. Again how is it a lie?
[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/]USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills[/url]

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Trump did not win .Hate won.

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[quote=Giantone;1154939]Trump did not win .Hate won.[/quote]

I think a lot of people most definitely hate the direction of the country and hate the fact the Obama has ignored their needs as citizens of this country for the last 8 years.

Some Ill give you some credit G1, your getting there.

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Hate won, fear won, false hopes won. Cannot wait until all of these Trumpeters are not living in bigger houses, making more money, driving bigger cars. You all fell for this loudmouth. You all are guilty for these next four years of complete madness. Lol. Hey at least SNL will be good for the next few years. We just elected a God damned Clown to the White house, and he is not even a funny clown. Lol. I have never been so embarrassed for my country.

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It is truly amazing to me that people like Donald Trump and George Bush and Dick fucking Cheney are all innocent. It is the black guy and the bitch that are the problem. Unfucking real. Im not sure if it makes you all racist or ignorant? Probably both.

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[quote=punch it in;1154932]Let us forget all of the bigoted comments he made. And he did make them. Let us forget all of the sexist comments he has made about women. And he did make them. How about the fact that this two bit con artist is absolutely out of his league on a world stage? How about the fact that he is absolutely out of his league period.
[B][I]I simply underestimated how many uneducated, racist, desperate, deplorable morons there were out there that were going to vote for their false messiah.[/I][/B] He is not, and never will be my President.
Fuck him and the orange racist horse made in China that he rode in on. The entire world is laughing at us except for Putin. Another deplorable piece of garbage. 2020 can not come soon enough. Of course there is always a chance that Major Mo Mo kicks the bucket before that.[/quote]

I voted for Trump. I suppose this post is an example of the party of intolerance?

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[quote=punch it in;1154942]It is truly amazing to me that people like Donald Trump and George Bush and Dick fucking Cheney are all innocent. It is the black guy and the bitch that are the problem. Unfucking real. Im not sure if it makes you all racist or ignorant? Probably both.[/quote]

just sounds.......deplorable?

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[quote=Chico23231;1154921]:doh:

You've been waiting to use this line for the last 2 elections haven't you?

:doh::doh:

But only on this night race is an issue? Keep chasing them windmills Don Quixtoe...[/quote]

Nope, just a look at the numbers show who propped him up. Young, old, college educated and non-college grad white people were solidly in favor of him. Hence my statement. More specifically, white males were heavily in his favor. I guess the fact that he's an old brah means he's on our side (FYI I too am a white male, most likely to be one of the least-affected people as a result of this election). He even had a solid percentage of the female vote. I guess they don't care about the fact that he bases the quality of a woman on her appearance.

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1154943]I voted for Trump. I suppose this post is an example of the party of intolerance?[/QUOTE]



I thought I was pretty clear about what I think about Trump and anybody who voted for him.
The good news is that just because a brain malfunctions today does not mean it will malfunction forever.

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[quote=Giantone;1154939]Trump did not win .Hate won.[/quote]

Truthfully,

Trump didn't win as much as Hillary lost.

2012 results:
Popular vote Obama:65,915,795 Romney: 60,933,504
2016 results:
Popular vote Clinton: 59,680,035* Trump: 59,479,278*

* count not complete

People who are complaining that the Democratic candidate lost, ought to look at the Democratic party and the tactics they used to handpick a disastrous candidate.

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All this aside, I really want to see if anyone puts their money where their mouth is on moving out of the country. I'm in wait-and-see mode. I think a terrible, unqualified person won. I don't think everyone who supports him has a lot of hate in their hearts, but many did. I do truly hope I'm proven wrong. I'll never change my opinion on him as a person unless he does a lot of good for a lot of people. That's where I don't hold my breath...

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1154948]All this aside, I really want to see if anyone puts their money where their mouth is on moving out of the country. I'm in wait-and-see mode. I think a terrible, unqualified person won. I don't think everyone who supports him has a lot of hate in their hearts, but many did. I do truly hope I'm proven wrong. I'll never change my opinion on him as a person unless he does a lot of good for a lot of people. That's where I don't hold my breath...[/quote]

I'm in the same boat TMC. If he can prove me wrong, I will be fine with that. But I'm not holding my breath. Especially if he fills his cabinet with CEO's of major corporations. Sure, the CEO of Lucas Oil knows exactly what it takes to lead the Dept. of Energy! He obviously has our best interests at heart.

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[quote=punch it in;1154946]I thought I was pretty clear about what I think about Trump and anybody who voted for him.
The good news is that just because a brain malfunctions today does not mean it will malfunction forever.[/quote]

So, hopefully there's hope for you yet.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1154948]All this aside, I really want to see if anyone puts their money where their mouth is on moving out of the country. I'm in wait-and-see mode. I think a terrible, unqualified person won. I don't think everyone who supports him has a lot of hate in their hearts, but many did. I do truly hope I'm proven wrong. I'll never change my opinion on him as a person unless he does a lot of good for a lot of people. That's where I don't hold my breath...[/QUOTE]



Things will probably somehow improve, (having nothing at all to do with this unqualified two bit con artist), over the next few years. Than all of the trumpeters minions will carve his orange mug into Mt Rushmore.
Than I will move out. Lol

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1154948]All this aside, I really want to see if anyone puts their money where their mouth is on moving out of the country. I'm in wait-and-see mode. I think a terrible, unqualified person won. I don't think everyone who supports him has a lot of hate in their hearts, but many did. I do truly hope I'm proven wrong. I'll never change my opinion on him as a person unless he does a lot of good for a lot of people. That's where I don't hold my breath...[/quote]

My vote for him was simply because I am tired of career politicians getting into the White House and keeping with the status quo - which is exactly what Hillary Clinton would have done. I think people wanted a shake up in the White house, and Trump was about the only way it was going to get shook. Donald Trump is not my favorite individual, but people are greatly underestimating how powerful and smart he is. He might be exactly what this country needs. I voted for him, I'm going to support him. I don't give a damn who likes it or not. If I can't stand the SOB toward the end of his four years, I'll vote for someone else. But anybody who wants to call me racist, bigoted, and a moron for casting my vote for him is, quite frankly, and idiot.

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Not everyone who voted for him is all of the above. Most are. Some are just one or two out of three. Some more are just horribly mis-informed and naive.

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[quote=punch it in;1154954]Not everyone who voted for him is all of the above. Most are. Some are just one or two out of three. Some more are just horribly mis-informed and naive.[/quote]

Yea, probably 39 million middle class white guys are horribly mis-informed and naive.

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1154955]Yea, probably 39 million middle class white guys are horribly mis-informed and naive.[/QUOTE]



No. I said some. Than you have your uneducated. You have your bigots. Etc etc. I was not just talking about middle class white guys either.
I am a middle class white guy for what that is worth.

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[quote=punch it in;1154956]No. I said some. Than you have your uneducated. You have your bigots. Etc etc. I was not just talking about middle class white guys either.
I am a middle class white guy for what that is worth.[/quote]

The point I'm making is that a metric shitload of Americans want him in office.

Hillary supporters act like they lost to a handfull of rednecks.
Obviously far from it.

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1154957]The point I'm making is that a metric shitload of Americans want him in office.



Hillary supporters act like they lost to a handfull of rednecks.

Obviously far from it.[/QUOTE]


Since when can a redneck not be a middle class white guy? I know plenty. Look there are those that voted for Trump who make me scratch my head. They do not appear to be uneducated, bigoted, etc.
The vast majority is "deplorable " though.

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Regardless of what "they" are the us needs to find common ground away from career politicians. My hope is that trump will bring good people regardless of political affilliation to look at and recommend real solutions. Calling his supporters names is dismissive of the fact that this is 1/2 of the people who cared enough about the country's future to go out and vote. Lets move past bickering, name calling, and the rest and really work together to solve our country's issues

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The whiny of the soft millennials today is absolutely pathetic.

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CNN is showing a protest and my first thought listening to their chants was what are we all in high school?

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I agree with the getting away from the political establishment. Right idea. Wrong fucking guy.
It is funny though everyone is talking about the "losers" whining, and just get over it. Move on. Carry on.
For 8 fucking years these same people bitching about the whiners have been fucking whining themselves. America sucks is all i have heard. Now that some two bit con artist is in office I am suppose to march in unity with all Americans? Bit hypocritical. Ill just ride out the storm until jerk off either gets himself impeached, ends the world, or the four years is up. You guys who voted for him are on your own. Lol

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[quote=Chico23231;1154960]The whiny of the soft millennials today is absolutely pathetic.[/quote]

Yeah, one of my co-workers, out of college a couple years I think, big Bernie supporter, came in round an hour late today. Her face was so red and puffy, it was obvious she had spent some of that morning crying.

Just to be clear, I hate the racist and the crook, I voted for Johnson, but still debated her when she was flat out wrong, like claiming college could be free for everyone, or that military guns have never been used by civilians before now (points to tommy guns). She's otherwise friendly, but argues everything political with utmost conviction like it's life or death, and when faced with contrary facts usually shrugs and says "whatever" and stick to her beliefs.

And I don't recall the majority of the TV news media so blatantly campaigning for one candidate before. The slanted news coverage, the landslide Hillary polls, giving Hillary debate questions in advance, vetting interview articles by her campaign before publishing, I dreaded the next four years no matter who won. It's like Aliens vs Predator, whoever wins, we lose. (I wanted Kasich to win, btw, would have settled for Cruz.)

But seeing these "safe space" millennials freak out, now that they finally lost a major election, is pretty entertaining.

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[quote=Chico23231;1154960]The whiny of the soft millennials today is absolutely pathetic.[/quote]

Why are they soft?

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1154964]Why are they soft?[/QUOTE]



Cus there fuckin fags! Hoo rah!
(This is going to be a long four years of some serious bullshit). Huge step backwards.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1154957]The point I'm making is that a metric shitload of Americans want him in office.

Hillary supporters act like they lost to a handfull of rednecks.
Obviously far from it.[/quote]


She actually won the popular vote and lost the electoral college.

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[quote=punch it in;1154965]
(This is going to be a long four years of some serious bullshit). Huge step backwards.[/quote]

Yup.

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[quote=punch it in;1154965]Cus there fuckin fags! Hoo rah!
(This is going to be a long four years of some serious bullshit). Huge step backwards.[/quote]

See, this is one reason Trump won. Because of punchitin's attitude. Constantly strawmanning and demonizing people as Obama put it with his: "cling to guns or religion" quote. Calling Trump deplorable was accurate. The constant stream of propaganda that anyone not liking the democrats was deplorable? When Hillary said that about Trump supporters, I think she hurt herself more than Mondale did with his "yes I will raise taxes" quote way back in 1984. I think enough people were fed up with punchitins attitude to fire back by voting Trump. It didn't push me that far, but I feel that anger.

And about anger, funny how a black turnout for Obama is represented as hope, and a white turnout for Trump is represented as anger. There was a lot of pent up anger among blacks of their past and present mistreatment that worked in Obama's favor too.

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[quote=Giantone;1154966]She actually won the popular vote and lost the electoral college.[/quote]

I doubt that you were worried about the popular vote before the election started.
But now that you lost you are all butt hurt about it.
And if Hilldog had won you wouldn't have said squat about it.
Hindsight is a bitch, eh?

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[quote=Giantone;1154964]Why are they soft?[/quote]

Because they lack substance in most of their arguments. There is zero substance...they have zero answers to unknown questions?

If shit is so fucking bleak, then talk to me about the Obama policies that were so fucking important to you and then why weren't these things achieved? Why is shit so bad in your fucking world, what didnt Obama do? Simply saying everyone is a racist, bigot, fascist is fucking bullshit.

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1154968]See, this is one reason Trump won. Because of punchitin's attitude. Constantly strawmanning and demonizing people as Obama put it with his: "cling to guns or religion" quote. Calling Trump deplorable was accurate. The constant stream of propaganda that anyone not liking the democrats was deplorable? When Hillary said that about Trump supporters, I think she hurt herself more than Mondale did with his "yes I will raise taxes" quote way back in 1984. I think enough people were fed up with punchitins attitude to fire back by voting Trump. It didn't push me that far, but I feel that anger.



And about anger, funny how a black turnout for Obama is represented as hope, and a white turnout for Trump is represented as anger. There was a lot of pent up anger among blacks of their past and present mistreatment that worked in Obama's favor too.[/QUOTE]



Dude go back under the slimy rock you have been hiding under and stay there.
Obama isnt a two bit con artist. It isnt about black and white you idiot.
You don't know me. My attitude? Really? Because of a comment that this is a huge step backwards? Take your long confused rant and go away. This time for good.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1154969]I doubt that you were worried about the popular vote before the election started.
But now that you lost you are all butt hurt about it.
And if Hilldog had won you wouldn't have said squat about it.
Hindsight is a bitch, eh?[/quote]

Fifth time it's happened according to one website I looked at. I have mixed feelings about that. I agree with not changing the rules retroactively because the other sides candidate won. But really, I would go either way if they decide to go popular vote next election or not.

OT1H, candidates would stick more to issues in big states in popular vote contests, not totally but to some degree. And we are a group of states, not just a homogeneous country, and the electoral college still gives weight to big states, it's not like the senate 2 reps each state.

OTOH, the POTUS really is our one true national election. Everyone's vote should count equally, just because some are banded together in huge municipalities shouldn't be a disqualifier.

So I really would be fine either way.