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Question: we hear about how amazing their line is, but isn't it just three players? There are a bunch of good teams with at LEAST 2 All-Pro/Pro Bowl type of players on their lines. It's just mind boggling that their LT, C and LG make that line as dominant as it is. We have TW (All-Pro) and Scherff (potential All-Pro) and we're not getting someone running for a billion yards. One could potentially say we have a lot more firepower on offense, yet they're going apeshit.
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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000652553/article/2016-strength-of-schedule-for-each-team]2016 strength of schedule for each team - NFL.com[/url]
Could this have something to do with it, plus this was preseason, I think I saw that the cowbells have by far the weakest strength of schedule so far this season. |
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The only teams they have played all year with winning records at the time of playing are the three teams in the division (lost to Giants, should have lost to us and beat up the eagles) and the steelers who were .500 at the time. I think everyone needs to lay off how amazing they are when all they do is beat up on the sister may of the poor teams. They will keep winning and be the top seed in the NFC because the rest of their schedule outside the division is a joke too.
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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1155541]Question: we hear about how amazing their line is, but isn't it just three players? There are a bunch of good teams with at LEAST 2 All-Pro/Pro Bowl type of players on their lines. It's just mind boggling that their LT, C and LG make that line as dominant as it is. We have TW (All-Pro) and Scherff (potential All-Pro) and we're not getting someone running for a billion yards. One could potentially say we have a lot more firepower on offense, yet they're going apeshit.
Blah. ([/quote] People keep yapping about Zeke like he's some sort of phenom. Truth is, any RB could run through these kinds of holes. Reminds me of the kind Emmitt Smith used to run through. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sTOaITi.jpg[/IMG] |
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[quote=hutch17;1155544][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000652553/article/2016-strength-of-schedule-for-each-team]2016 strength of schedule for each team - NFL.com[/url]
Could this have something to do with it, plus this was preseason, I think I saw that the cowbells have by far the weakest strength of schedule so far this season.[/quote] [url=http://www.predictionmachine.com/Strength-of-Schedule-Rankings]Strength of Schedule Rankings for NFL[/url] They update this every week I believe, taking several things into account. The Cowboys schedule so far is 32nd out of 32. They have a few tougher games coming up, playing Baltimore, Detroit, Minnesota, and the NFC East teams again so we'll see. But so far yes their schedule has been a joke |
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I'm not going to knock them on strength of schedule. Ultimately we all can only play who is on our schedule. We had every opportunity to be tied going into Thanksgiving, and we didn't get it done. I will be rooting for Baltimore :puke: but the Cowboys look like a top tier team unfortunately.
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[quote=SirLK26;1155547][url=http://www.predictionmachine.com/Strength-of-Schedule-Rankings]Strength of Schedule Rankings for NFL[/url]
They update this every week I believe, taking several things into account. The Cowboys schedule so far is 32nd out of 32. They have a few tougher games coming up, playing Baltimore, Detroit, Minnesota, and the NFC East teams again so we'll see. But so far yes their schedule has been a joke[/quote] Thanks that is the stat I was looking for. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1155548]I'm not going to knock them on strength of schedule. Ultimately we all can only play who is on our schedule. We had every opportunity to be tied going into Thanksgiving, and we didn't get it done. I will be rooting for Baltimore :puke: but the Cowboys look like a top tier team unfortunately.[/quote]
I am not saying they are not a really good team nor am I knocking anyone for playing and beating who is on their schedule but to listen to national media, Zeke is the second coming of and Dak is the best QB in football and I think it is a lot more grey than that. they played a weak schedule and have a great line. I am not as impressed by the rookies as everyone else. |
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I wanna believe eventually they will come back to Earth, but there's a tiny part of me that is scared they are set for the next decade. Of course they would basically luck into being a dominant team for the foreseeable future.
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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1155541]Question: we hear about how amazing their line is, but isn't it just three players? There are a bunch of good teams with at LEAST 2 All-Pro/Pro Bowl type of players on their lines. It's just mind boggling that their LT, C and LG make that line as dominant as it is. We have TW (All-Pro) and Scherff (potential All-Pro) and we're not getting someone running for a billion yards. One could potentially say we have a lot more firepower on offense, yet they're going apeshit.
Blah. ([/quote] Well, no. I mean Tyron Smith is right up their with Trent at LT. On top of that, they have two other first rounders in Martin (RG) and Frederick (C) and then there is La'el Collins would have been a 1st round pick but for his legal issues. All three of those guys have been really damn good. So they could have a couple of All-Pros and two more Pro-Bowl guys. Free is the RT and he is solid and a former starting LT. Our line [I]could[/I] get close. Scherff and Williams have All-Pro written all over them. I think Long and Moses will also be really damn good. Both lines are young so they could be setting the tone for quite some time. |
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I think our line is as good as the cowboys, only difference they have slightly more experience (not much).
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Factoids:
Williams, Scherff - 1st Rounders Luavo, Long, Moses - 3rd Rounders Williams and Lauvao 2010 draft. Long and Moses both 2014 draft. Scherff 2015 draft. This particular line could be together for another three or four years. Lots of growth potential from Scherff, Long and Moses. |
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Lets not forget Kouandjio a 4th round and Lauvao's replacement next year. To be honest I don't care about draft order, Jacoby was a FA, Bostic was also undrafted, Ed simmons 6th round, Ray Brown 8th round, Mark Schlereth 10th round, Raleigh McKenzie 11th round. Coaching makes a big difference.
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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1155556]I think our line is as good as the cowboys, only difference they have slightly more experience (not much).[/quote]
Its a better pass pro not run block |
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[quote=JoeRedskin;1155555]Well, no. I mean Tyron Smith is right up their with Trent at LT.
On top of that, they have two other first rounders in Martin (RG) and Frederick (C) and then there is La'el Collins would have been a 1st round pick but for his legal issues. All three of those guys have been really damn good. So they could have a couple of All-Pros and two more Pro-Bowl guys. Free is the RT and he is solid and a former starting LT. Our line [I]could[/I] get close. Scherff and Williams have All-Pro written all over them. I think Long and Moses will also be really damn good. Both lines are young so they could be setting the tone for quite some time.[/quote] Feels like we are selling Tyron Smith short, every time I see his name mentioned when media talks about their o-line they slob on his knob like he's the next Walter Jones/Orlando Pace. Which he might be, I mean I only watch two Cowboys games a year so who knows? But the way the media talks about him and their line it's like they can do no wrong. |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;1155566]Its a better pass pro not run block[/quote]
Kelley would disagree |
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[quote=JoeRedskin;1155555]Well, no. I mean Tyron Smith is right up their with Trent at LT.
On top of that, they have two other first rounders in Martin (RG) and Frederick (C) and then there is La'el Collins would have been a 1st round pick but for his legal issues. All three of those guys have been really damn good. So they could have a couple of All-Pros and two more Pro-Bowl guys. Free is the RT and he is solid and a former starting LT. Our line [I]could[/I] get close. Scherff and Williams have All-Pro written all over them. I think Long and Moses will also be really damn good. Both lines are young so they could be setting the tone for quite some time.[/quote] Right. I mean they have three Pro Bowl/All Pro guys currently playing (Collins has been out a while I believe). We have two. For me, I'm like how does that one extra make such a huge difference? I dunno. Was seeing some stats that a ton of Zeke's yards are mostly before contact. Pure insanity. |
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Dallas' line has been playing together longer. Give us another offseason of Callahans coaching and maybe an upgrade at LG and we will be as good or better. They dont have anyone like Scherff, who just destroys guys every game. And I would take Williams over Tyron Smith
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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1155578]Right. I mean they have three Pro Bowl/All Pro guys currently playing (Collins has been out a while I believe). We have two. For me, I'm like how does that one extra make such a huge difference?
I dunno. Was seeing some stats that a ton of Zeke's yards are mostly before contact. Pure insanity.[/quote] Their center is far better than Long or Kory, and the center ties the line together. I was sure we were going to draft a top tier center last draft and I still believe we ought to this year, even in the 1st or 2nd round, if it's a guy Callahan/SM both agree on. edit: Callahan signed a 3 year deal in Jan 15, so next year is his last under contract. All the more reason to get the last parts to the line and get a year under his coaching if he does decide to leave in 18. |
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edit: Callahan signed a 3 year deal in Jan 15, so next year is his last under contract. All the more reason to get the last parts to the line and get a year under his coaching if he does decide to leave in 18.[/quote] OR...extend Callahan's contract. That's a no-brainer, IMO. |
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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1155582]OR...extend Callahan's contract. That's a no-brainer, IMO.[/quote]
I still wonder why Dallas didn't. I agree it's a no brainer - if Callahan wants to stay - but I wonder if Callahan was hoping to be next in line here for HC and will look for a HC job when his contract is up. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1155585]I still wonder why Dallas didn't. I agree it's a no brainer - if Callahan wants to stay - but I wonder if Callahan was hoping to be next in line here for HC and will look for a HC job when his contract is up.[/quote]
It was because when Callahan was the o-line coach and running game coordinator in Dallas, he was next in line for the Offensive Coordinator job when it opened up. But when they hired Linehan from outside of the organization to be OC, Callahan was unhappy and was allowed to 'seek other opportunities'. I know people are tired of hearing how 'great' the o-line is in Dallas. But they would not be where they are today without Callahan. |
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[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff]2016 NFL Playoff Standings - Nation Football League[/url]
Some things stand out...the biggest to me is Dallas has played the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL so far this season. SOS is 378...lol. Oh boy, when the fall comes.... |
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[quote=Chico23231;1155719][url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff]2016 NFL Playoff Standings - Nation Football League[/url]
Some things stand out...the biggest to me is Dallas has played the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL so far this season. SOS is 378...lol. Oh boy, when the fall comes....[/quote] How is the Ravens schedule at .375? I wonder how our tie plays out. Definitely hurts us for the NFC East title, and adds some importance to the Arizona game, because they and Seattle are the only teams that could have a chance of ending with the same record as us. Interesting that the Eagles are 0-3 in the division, and Dal, NYG and us are 2-1. I know winning all 7 games is unlikely, but it would be great to be in December and half a game behind Dallas. (I think they lose to the Ravens and I hope they lose to us) |
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[quote=Chico23231;1155719][url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff]2016 NFL Playoff Standings - Nation Football League[/url]
Some things stand out...the biggest to me is Dallas has played the 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL so far this season. SOS is 378...lol. Oh boy, when the fall comes....[/quote] SOS is going to be easier for any team that finishes 4-11 the year before. Can only play the schedule they give you. |
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[quote=sandtrapjack;1155729]SOS is going to be easier for any team that finishes 4-11 the year before. Can only play the schedule they give you.[/quote]
Idw defend STJ but he's right, the Cowboys only face two different teams than we do this year. Difference is those two teams that we faced finished first in their divisions, and the Cowboys opponents finished last. Still, once the Cowboys fall back to Earth it will be epic, and I can't wait. Hopefully it starts on Thanksgiving. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1155728]How is the Ravens schedule at .375?
I wonder how our tie plays out. Definitely hurts us for the NFC East title, and adds some importance to the Arizona game, because they and Seattle are the only teams that could have a chance of ending with the same record as us. Interesting that the Eagles are 0-3 in the division, and Dal, NYG and us are 2-1. I know winning all 7 games is unlikely, but it would be great to be in December and half a game behind Dallas. ([B]I think they lose to the Ravens[/B] and I hope they lose to us)[/quote] You've been living in Pasadena, MD too long. Don't listen to those Ratbird fans over there. The Ravens suck. Still, I hope they get lucky and beat the Cowboys. |
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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1155731]You've been living in Pasadena, MD too long. Don't listen to those Ratbird fans over there. The Ravens suck. Still, I hope they get lucky and beat the Cowboys.[/QUOTE]
I have loved listening to them crying this year. But their defense is a top ranked against the rush. And if Flacco can hit the deep ball against the Dallas corners then Baltimore has a chance. It would be a great start to the afternoon for Dallas to lose! Sent from my S6 Edge |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1155755]I have loved listening to them crying this year. But their defense is a top ranked against the rush. And if Flacco can hit the deep ball against the Dallas corners then Baltimore has a chance. It would be a great start to the afternoon for Dallas to lose!
Sent from my S6 Edge[/quote] It's always a great day when Dallas loses. |
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