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Basically this. Run the damn football Gruden! Feed Fat Rob! Feed Fat Rob! Feed Fat Rob! And then play action for the bomb to Jackson!

Hhhmmmmm....what was that play? Sprint bomb?

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Im looking to see when Ryan got his sacks. He has 10 sacks and sometimes gets decent pressure but he hasnt been overly impactful imo. He has 29 tackles, 10 sacks .. so he has made 19 tackles through 11 games that arent sacks. He did get 2.5 sacks against the Eagles though ...

[U][B]Cards Game[/B][/U] - RK had 2 total tackles (which includes the sack)

2nd and 3 at WSH 32
(0:48 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) C.Palmer sacked at WAS 41 for -9 yards(R.Kerrigan).

[B][U]Boys Game[/U][/B]- RK had 5 total tackles

2nd and 9 at WSH 46
(9:53 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) D.Prescott sacked at DAL 49 for -5 yards (R.Kerrigan). Penalty on DAL-T.Smith, Offensive Holding, declined.

[B][U]Packers Game[/U][/B] - RK had 1 tackle, the sack he got.

3rd and 5 at WSH 8
(4:19 - 2nd) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers sacked at WAS 18 for -10 yards (R.Kerrigan).

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I only looked at his last 3 games but they all came on shotgun formations. To me that means he can beat his guy 1 on 1. I imagine the sack rate for shotgun is higher bc shotgun plays are usually longer route developing plays. Also I think RK excels at the outside speed rush so getting sacks on shotgun makes sense.

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[quote=punch it in;1158226]Kirk was the least of the problems. He was under heavy pressure all day. Yet he did not make any mistakes until the int at the end. The int on 3rd and 4 with 40 seconds left I cannot say I remember exactly how it undolded BUT i do not remember thinking NO! WTF?!? Lol. I want to say Crowder slipped or the dback made a hell of a play. It certainly was not a terrible decision to throw it though.[/quote]

No it wasnt a horrible decision to throw it but it was a horrible throw,so you could say it was a bad decision because he felt the pressure and hurried the throw.It was 2 yards behind Crowder right to Peterson,if it would have been on the money it might have been a td
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[quote=punch it in;1158255]I see my early season angst with RK not showing up has caught some wind in its sails. Seems like only yesterday I was being lambasted for suggesting that he is meh.[/quote]

Never did I suggest he was meh, and never did I put any wind in those sails. I just said he needs to be a factor. I never said he hasn't been a factor.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1158274]Never did I suggest he was meh, and never did I put any wind in those sails. I just said he needs to be a factor. I never said he hasn't been a factor.[/QUOTE]



Well in all fairness, 69 made the remark that he "wants to see rk show the fuck up this week" because the d has been horrible. You agreed. I thought is Schneed just making an obvious blanket statement about him having a good game? Than thought , nah, he is agreeing that rk needs to "finally" show the fuck up. Guess i read it wrong but it came across as you piling on. No biggie. We all want every skin to show up every week. I actually think RK will have a big game. Mainly because i called him out. I know he follows me on Tapatalk.

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1158272]No it wasnt a horrible decision to throw it but it was a horrible throw,so you could say it was a bad decision because he felt the pressure and hurried the throw.It was 2 yards behind Crowder right to Peterson,if it would have been on the money it might have been a td

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Guess he thought he could get it there even under pressure. Again i do not see the old kc stupid throw there. Or a throw that cost us a game. More a qb trying to overcome horrible pass pro at a crucial moment in a big game.

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Kerrigans not a dynamic player. He gets sacks because he's a solid pass rusher who never gives up. You rarely see him just dominate a lineman one on one

What's special about him though is durability and consistency(knock on wood). I had to look this up to make sure, but he has never missed a game in 5+ seasons! And his lowest sack total is 7.5 in his rookie year, since then he's averaging 10 a year

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The fact we spend so much time dissecting one of our better players just amazes me.

It's like whining about your windshield wipers when the engine doesn't run.

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[quote=MTK;1158282]The fact we spend so much time dissecting one of our better players just amazes me.

It's like whining about your windshield wipers when the engine doesn't run.[/quote]

And then we hear "Man, we miss Amerson. Guy is a baller"

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[quote=MTK;1158282]The fact we spend so much time dissecting one of our better players just amazes me.

It's like whining about your windshield wipers when the engine doesn't run.[/quote]

Idk, theres always that thin line in debates when it comes to discussing our good players. Kirk with getting rattled/ints in bunches/cant beat good teams. Reed with poor run blocking/not playing through pain. Desean being limited to go routes.

I think we all love Mr. Ryan Kerrigan and 10 sacks are 10 sacks and there is no such thing as a garbage time sack .... but he has not been a consistent force this year.

He was in the first eagles game where Lane was just suspended and he abused that rookie RT whose name starts with a V. Hopefully Ryan can get off again this week.

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We've played a lot of good defensss this year, would anyone say someone looked unblockable? Kerrigan is good and when he's out our defense is totally different.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1158288]We've played a lot of good defensss this year, would anyone say someone looked unblockable? Kerrigan is good and when he's out our defense is totally different.[/quote]

Calais Campbell looked like a man amongst boys. Of course we were really banged up in game shuffling guys all over. But I see your point. Fletcher Cox scares me this sunday.

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Kerrigan isn't flashy and won't ever be mentioned with the Khalil Mack's/Von Millers of the NFL, and I guess that's not good enough for some. He's a solid player who does a solid job at a critical position. I think the fact that our d is rarely clutch reflects poorly on him, when it shouldn't.

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[quote=over the mountain;1158289]Calais Campbell looked like a man amongst boys. Of course we were really banged up in game shuffling guys all over. But I see your point. Fletcher Cox scares me this sunday.[/quote]

While he does scare me too, Fletcher cox has been a major disappointment with the Eagles this year. Got paid

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[quote=mooby;1158290]Kerrigan isn't flashy and won't ever be mentioned with the Khalil Mack's/Von Millers of the NFL, and I guess that's not good enough for some. [B]He's a solid player who does a solid job at a critical position.[/B] I think the fact that our d is rarely clutch reflects poorly on him, when it shouldn't.[/quote]

Exactly

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I think we have a tendency to want to see more from our solid defensive players because those players have shown they belong in the NFL and we think they may have the talent to give even more than they already do. It's unfair in the sense that the thing that could enable our capable players to do more would be to have better players playing next to and around them.

Conversely, there is little reason to expect more from players who have been around awhile but haven't done much, so we don't talk as much about those players needing to improve. The old saw that "You can't polish a turd" applies.

Our top players on defense will never reach their full potential on this team unless and until they have better players working with them.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1158283]And then we hear "Man, we miss Amerson. Guy is a baller"[/QUOTE]



Yeah everyone on other teams are always ballers and our guys couldn't start anywhere else.

Like all the early season circle jerking about Orakpo ballin (9 sacks) or Lorenzo Alexander ballin (10 sacks, same as Kerrigan), ugh so silly.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1158290]Kerrigan isn't flashy and won't ever be mentioned with the Khalil Mack's/Von Millers of the NFL, and I guess that's not good enough for some. He's a solid player who does a solid job at a critical position. I think the fact that our d is rarely clutch reflects poorly on him, when it shouldn't.[/QUOTE]


Mack is definitely a baller (11 sacks) while Kerrigan with his lowly 10... just meh. Most quiet sacks ever while Mack's start god damn tsunamis.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1158285]Idk, theres always that thin line in debates when it comes to discussing our good players. Kirk with getting rattled/ints in bunches/cant beat good teams. Reed with poor run blocking/not playing through pain. Desean being limited to go routes.



I think we all love Mr. Ryan Kerrigan and 10 sacks are 10 sacks and there is no such thing as a garbage time sack .... but he has not been a consistent force this year.



He was in the first eagles game where Lane was just suspended and he abused that rookie RT whose name starts with a V. Hopefully Ryan can get off again this week.[/QUOTE]


IDK having at least one sack in 7 of his last 8 games kinda screams some level of consistency to me.

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Kerrigan's not paid like a Von Miller either. We're getting what we need from him, for sure. The defense has issues but he's not one of them.

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If you want to go by QB hurries instead of by Sacks, Kerrigan is 15th in the NFL with 20.

Ahead of Khalil Mack, ahead of Fletcher Cox, ahead of Ndamukong Suh, and tied with Everson Griffen.

[url]https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/defensive-hurries/2016/[/url]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1158282]The fact we spend so much time dissecting one of our better players just amazes me.

It's like whining about your windshield wipers when the engine doesn't run.[/QUOTE]



But kerrigan is supposed to be the engine. So it is like dissecting the engine because all the wiper blades are going to be replaced anyway. Lol
Again, I do not think he is the problem. He is a class act. He is someone i want back. I do expect or want more consistent play out of him. Plus are we really going to have a discussion about ziggy hood???

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Mack's sacks are down this year but he also forces more fumbles than RK does. Sacks shouldn't be the be-all/end-all argument though, Mack also has 61 tackles which suggests he's a better run defender (although I think RK's lack of tackles is mostly because outside of Baker our d-line is mediocre and it allows opposing blockers to get to the second level easier).

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[quote=punch it in;1158304]But kerrigan is supposed to be the engine. So it is like dissecting the engine because all the wiper blades are going to be replaced anyway. Lol
Again, I do not think he is the problem. He is a class act. He is someone i want back. I do expect or want more consistent play out of him. Plus are we really going to have a discussion about ziggy hood???[/quote]

I also agree he's not the problem. I don't think he's elite but he is consistent. The only dominant game he's had this year was against the Eagles but even then people were failing to give him cred.

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TW, Kouandjio and Sullivan starting on the OL this week. I like Kouanjio, he's been here 2 years and this is his chance to win the job.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1158306]I also agree he's not the problem. I don't think he's elite but he is consistent. The only dominant game he's had this year was against the Eagles but even then people were failing to give him cred.[/QUOTE]



I gave him credit that game BUT for beating up a guy starting his first game in the league. My thing with RK is that he is, outside of Norman, our best defensive player. That is a problem. It is and is not a knock on the guy. He is by no means a slouch, but when he is your stud it is an issue. 10 sacks ok. However he does not, by any means, appear to me as a disruptive force on D. You need a full blown code red baller on D. He aint it. So im giving him grief for not being spectacular. Lol. We need spectacular. There are just too many games where he is held at bay and not always by an Anthony Munoz. Lol.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1158305]Mack's sacks are down this year but he also forces more fumbles than RK does. Sacks shouldn't be the be-all/end-all argument though, Mack also has 61 tackles which suggests he's a better run defender (although I think RK's lack of tackles is mostly because outside of Baker our d-line is mediocre and it allows opposing blockers to get to the second level easier).[/QUOTE]



RK doesn't hold a candle to Mack. Indictment on RK? Not really as many people do not. But RK is our Mack. He is our Watt. When RK is your stud that is an issue. Because on a play by play basis he just does not bring it. RK needs a complimentary player to take the heat off him. As a first round pick I just wish he was "that guy". Not that "other guy" who is the compliment. He aint the problem but he aint the solution. End rant.

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Im drunk Christmas shopping and my wife keeps telling me stop blogging. So if this makes sense - cool. If not - i have a valid excuse

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RK says its a code red game:

[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Ryan-Kerrigan-makes-a-strong-statement-about-Eagles-game-49691057]Ryan Kerrigan makes a strong statement about Eagles game[/url]

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1158310]Im drunk Christmas shopping and my wife keeps telling me stop blogging. So if this makes sense - cool. If not - i have a valid excuse[/QUOTE]


Always listen to the wife. Even she knows you're bringing nothing but nonsense. ;)

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[QUOTE=MTK;1158312]Always listen to the wife. Even she knows you're bringing nothing but nonsense. ;)[/QUOTE]



Like Kerrigan! Lol. He is going to have a monster game because of this. No doubt. Haha.

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Deshazor Everett to see more action tomorrow since Blackmon is out, I love this kid. I hope he puts a strong performance.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1158311]RK says its a code red game:

[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Ryan-Kerrigan-makes-a-strong-statement-about-Eagles-game-49691057]Ryan Kerrigan makes a strong statement about Eagles game[/url][/quote]

Every remaining game at this point is a must win. I think we have to go 3-1 in the remaining games to get in.

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[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1158315]Every remaining game at this point is a must win. I think we have to go 3-1 in the remaining games to get in.[/QUOTE]
3-1 is a must.

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Will be watching 2am from Malaysia with gf who has only saw the skins opening night .... i hope it's friggin worth it cuz day 4 or so and im still a little jet lag and shit.... defense better show up. That is all #HTTR

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[quote=punch it in;1158258]He has a habit of completely not showing up for a game. Even if he has 2 sacks he is invisible for the other 40 plays.
Again, he is not thee biggest problem by any stretch. But a first round pick needs to get more consistent pressure. You know stats do not always tell the whole story.[/quote]

He has 10 sacks but it's really not telling the entire story. He has disappeared for long stretches, as has Smith. The sack he got last week was really all Norman coming off the edge on a corner blitz. RK basically fell into that one. Plus he's been getting abused on the bootlegs.

It's really not a big shocker that we desperately need to upgrade our pass rush.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1158327]He has 10 sacks but it's really not telling the entire story. He has disappeared for long stretches, as has Smith. The sack he got last week was really all Norman coming off the edge on a corner blitz. RK basically fell into that one. Plus he's been getting abused on the bootlegs.

It's really not a big shocker that we desperately need to upgrade our pass rush.[/quote]

We could have drafted Jaylon Smith have him heal for a year like the cowboys. Doctson lost the year, so what's the difference. I still think Smith is suffering a sophomore slump.

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So what about that bum Kerrigan eh

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[quote=MTK;1158582]So what about that bum Kerrigan eh[/quote]

Only 1 sack? So average. Mack would've had 5.

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I haven't read all recent posts, but I'm just going to give you chumps the benefit of the doubt and assumed you showed up here to eat some HBK flavored crow.

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