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[quote=JoeRedskin;1160364]I was not suggesting both would go to the same place but, rather, that neither of them, individually, would be headed here.

Again, putting aside my personal dislike for his "style," I am not a fan of the Ryan defense - not unless he significantly stripped it down. At this point, his is not a scheme that is easily implemented. Even if he could achieve the level of success he did with Baltimore or the Jets, it would be a couple years down the road.

While I know we aren't "a player or two away," I also don't think the D needs a total overhaul which is what hiring Rex would mean. Barry doesn't "coordinate," in that he just doesn't seem to put players in places they will succeed and doesn't play to their strengths. I think Ryan may have done that early in is career but now is devoted to his scheme. Ryan's D at this point needs buy-in from the players, dedication to a scheme, and trust in the coordinator. At this point in his career, Ryan has become a caricature of himself and I just don't see him engendering trust from the players.

Also, I just don't see Rex and Gruden working well together. I may be wrong but I get the feeling they would clash and we would have all sorts of drama over it. Rex is just one of those guys who can't help but bring the drama.

So, even with more talented players (BTW - Buffalo was not without talent), and barring my personal dislike for him as a coach, I just don't see him as a good fit for the Skins.[/quote]

I think it's fair to give partial blame to Rex for the Bills' failures, seeing as he had total control after all, but to assume he is incapable of running a successful defense because he hasn't in several years is foolhardy imo. Who's to say his ego is too big to realize he could stand to simplify it a bit after the Bills failure? He just got chin-checked before the season is over, I'm pretty sure right now he's taking a hard look at why it went wrong.

And I don't think you are giving him enough credit for his Jets defenses, while they weren't on the Ravens level they were good in their own right. He had that team in two AFCCG not because of how good Mark Sanchez was playing, those defenses were a big reason why. Yes I realize those two years were an eternity ago in NFL years, but a large part of his failures as a head coach were because he never built an offense worthy of recognition.

I think if you gave him some talent he would find a way to make the defense good again, and it probably wouldn't require two years. I don't think it would require a total change of personnel either, he could keep Norman, Breeland, Kerrigan, Smith/Murphy, Cravens, and Baker for starters and then add in a few players through the draft and free agency and go from there. There's no reason we shouldn't see better results next year.

I will finish by saying I agree that this is a moot argument because Gruden probably isn't interested in having him on staff.

See my post in the coordinators thread. The job will be Gus Bradley's.

Wouldn't surprise me if this was true

[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Denver-Broncos-coach-Gary-Kubiak-likely-stepping-down-50184192]Report: Denver Broncos coach Gary Kubiak 'likely' stepping down[/url]

Romo is so much better than Dak. It is not even close.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/01/chip-kelly-definitely-out-in-san-francisco/]Chip Kelly “definitely” out in San Francisco | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Remember when fans and talking heads stated chip Kelly is a genius and will change the league? How's that working out?

Andrew luck is the most overrated player in the league today.

Romo plays one set of downs and scores. How's that for a trade showcase?

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1160432]Andrew luck is the most overrated player in the league today.[/QUOTE]
He's a TO machine

[quote=Chico23231;1160432]Andrew luck is the most overrated player in the league today.[/quote]

You were saying?

Where's the game thread?

Well I'm rooting for Atlanta to win the SB, probably won't happen but I'd like to see them do it. KC in the afc

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[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Mike-McCoy-officially-fired-by-San-Diego-Chargers-50203027]Mike McCoy officially fired by San Diego Chargers[/url]

Chip Kelly got the boot too.

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1161002]Chip Kelly got the boot too.[/QUOTE]

That sort of takes the edge off. Lol.
What a joke that guy is.

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1160937]Well I'm rooting for Atlanta to win the SB, probably won't happen but I'd like to see them do it. KC in the afc

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Im rooting hard for KC. Would love for philly fans to be even more miserable when Andy finally wins it all ........in KC.

I want KC to win as well.

The packers have no CBs and yet they make plays

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[quote=J. Falcon;1161013]I want KC to win as well.[/quote]

Anybody but Dallas, Pittsburgh, or New England, and I'll be alright.

[quote=skinsfaninok;1161031]The packers have no CBs and yet they make plays

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Yeah, I heard about their CB injuries. I know they're hot, but that might kill them in the postseason.

[QUOTE=PorkSkins;1161034]Anybody but Dallas, Pittsburgh, or New England, and I'll be alright.[/QUOTE]
I agree but NE is going for sure

Bills
Jags
Broncos
49's
Chargers
Rams
....what other head coach will go?

To me John Fox the Bears, maybe Marvin Lewis the Bengals(long shot)

[quote=Giantone;1161045]Bills
Jags
Broncos
49's
Chargers
Rams
....what other head coach will go?

To me John Fox the Bears, maybe Marvin Lewis the Bengals(long shot)[/quote]

I think Marvin Lewis might as well have that lifetime contract, Mike Brown only cares about making money and as long as the Bengals aren't terrible he will do that.

I don't think Fox will get fired.

Fox wont get fired, they have no talent for him