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My dream scenario - Dalvin Cook

What I'd be happy with - whoever the best player available on defense is, based on SM'S scouting reports. It could literally be any player at any position.

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Joe Mixon is another guy I would look at starting in round 2

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What is all this RB in the first round garbage? We ain't draftin' no stinkin' RB in Round 1 and, if we did, it wouldn't be a fumbler like Cook.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1162391][url=http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/worst-draft-pick-bust-every-nfl-team-ryan-leaf-jamarcus-russell-112116]Every NFL team's worst draft pick ever | FOX Sports[/url]

I still have my shuler jersey[/quote]

Man that just brings bac terrible memories. There was not one thing Shuler did well. The pro game was way too fast for him. At least Griffin has 2012, Shuler never did anything except throw the ball to the other team and complete 50 percent of his passes.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1163228]Joe Mixon is another guy I would look at starting in round 2[/quote]

That's a pass for me. I don't think we have the roster that would be able to help a guy with character concerns like that. He may have learned his lesson from hitting that girl but I think it's a bad look for us.

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Hadn't seen that highlight video of Solomon Thomas. Yes, please. That dude is just absolutely owning people.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1163228]Joe Mixon is another guy I would look at starting in round 2[/quote]I can't get behind a guy who would punch a girl in the face.

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[quote=mooby;1163238]That's a pass for me. I don't think we have the roster that would be able to help a guy with character concerns like that. He may have learned his lesson from hitting that girl but I think it's a bad look for us.[/quote]

I don't know about how he is as a prospect, but Im willing to give the guy a second chance if he comes off good behind close doors with our coaching staff and McC.


This isn't direct at you Mooby, but...
Id really like to know what happened to second chances in this country, seems like our president is pardoning a lot of criminals these days giving second chances...but you say the wrong thing on twitter and faux outrage folks want blood...ie, that person to lose a job, lose a life, etc. strange times...lotta hypocrisy

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[quote=SouperMeister;1163240]I can't get behind a guy who would punch a girl in the face.[/quote]

That doesnt bother me in the slightest. There are worse people in the NFL right now.

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[quote=mooby;1163238]That's a pass for me. I don't think we have the roster that would be able to help a guy with character concerns like that. He may have learned his lesson from hitting that girl but I think it's a bad look for us.[/quote]

It isnt like he goes around beating people in the face. She attacked him, he retailated and was suspended for an entire year. Plus this incident happened almost 3 years ago.

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[quote=Chico23231;1163241]I don't know about how he is as a prospect, but Im willing to give the guy a second chance if he comes off good behind close doors with our coaching staff and McC.


This isn't direct at you Mooby, but...
Id really like to know what happened to second chances in this country, seems like our president is pardoning a lot of criminals these days giving second chances...but you say the wrong thing on twitter and faux outrage folks want blood...ie, that person to lose a job, lose a life, etc. strange times...lotta hypocrisy[/quote]

Reminds me a lot of Zeke. Fast, stout, can run between the tackles, catches well out of the backfield

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[quote=Chico23231;1163241]I don't know about how he is as a prospect, but Im willing to give the guy a second chance if he comes off good behind close doors with our coaching staff and McC.


This isn't direct at you Mooby, but...
Id really like to know what happened to second chances in this country, seems like our president is pardoning a lot of criminals these days giving second chances...but you say the wrong thing on twitter and faux outrage folks want blood...ie, that person to lose a job, lose a life, etc. strange times...lotta hypocrisy[/quote]

Not knowing the kid, I can't speak for him, but if the impression McC got from an interview and from speaking to those close with him is that he is a changed man and he deserves a chance I would be ok with it. But he wouldn't get another one if he slipped up again. I've seen the video and I know the girl was copping an attitude with him, but you gotta maintain your composure. You don't think I haven't wanted to hit someone who was mouthing off at me? The difference is I know not to act on it.

Long story short if McC does his homework (which we know he will) and thinks Mixon is worth the chance I'll probably get over it. But he's already on his second chance, which is what Bob Stoops gave him when he welcomed him back to the program. If he screws up again, I don't want to keep giving him chances based on his athletic talent.

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[quote=mooby;1163253]Not knowing the kid, I can't speak for him, but if the impression McC got from an interview and from speaking to those close with him is that he is a changed man and he deserves a chance I would be ok with it. But he wouldn't get another one if he slipped up again. I've seen the video and I know the girl was copping an attitude with him, but you gotta maintain your composure. You don't think I haven't wanted to hit someone who was mouthing off at me? The difference is I know not to act on it.

Long story short if McC does his homework (which we know he will) and thinks Mixon is worth the chance I'll probably get over it. But he's already on his second chance, which is what Bob Stoops gave him when he welcomed him back to the program. If he screws up again, I don't want to keep giving him chances based on his athletic talent.[/quote]

That works...he doesn't get another screw up for sure. It was a terrible video for sure....but if Dallas/eagles draft him then it's proven, he is a woman beater and will burn in hell :devil:

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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Mel Kiper be right.....Has us taking Malik Hooker at #17, can you imagine....Norman, Cravens, Hooker, and Breeland bringing up the rear, that's a solid group....and if DHall wants to stay on he could possibly play Nickel.....

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[quote=NCSUredskin;1163282]PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Mel Kiper be right.....Has us taking Malik Hooker at #17, can you imagine....Norman, Cravens, Hooker, and Breeland bringing up the rear, that's a solid group....and if DHall wants to stay on he could possibly play Nickel.....[/quote]

Plus he's got a hell of a nickname to boot.

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[quote=mooby;1163341]Plus he's got a hell of a nickname to boot.[/quote]

Doubt he falls to 17

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[quote=NCSUredskin;1163282]PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Mel Kiper be right.....Has us taking Malik Hooker at #17, can you imagine....Norman, Cravens, Hooker, and Breeland bringing up the rear, that's a solid group....and if DHall wants to stay on he could possibly play Nickel.....[/quote]

Hooker really stands out when watching that defense...when you talk about Safety, you have to about having range and that guy moves from sideline to sideline well. He would be a steal. The kid from lsu is another one...

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[quote=Chico23231;1163412]Hooker really stands out when watching that defense...when you talk about Safety, you have to about having range and that guy moves from sideline to sideline well. He would be a steal. The kid from lsu is another one...[/quote]

Hooker has outstanding ball skills, as well.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1163415]Hooker has outstanding ball skills, as well.[/quote]

most hookers do




This is refreshing, Per Keim on Twitter:

Doubt he falls here. [B]Know Skins want DL 1st[/B]. With Cravens moving there not sure Skins view as needing to take S high. But: BPA theory.

thank you Jesus

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1162391][url=http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/worst-draft-pick-bust-every-nfl-team-ryan-leaf-jamarcus-russell-112116]Every NFL team's worst draft pick ever | FOX Sports[/url]

I still have my shuler jersey[/quote]


I don't know about other teams worst, except the Chargers and Ryan Leaf. But RG3 was our worst draft pick ever. We would be so much better if we had just stood pat, drafted Cousins or Wilson, and used all those other picks in the RG3 trade.

Even not considering the trade, the RG3 pick was an all-time bust.

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With RG3 at least we got a division title out of it. Shuler just couldn't play.

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Taking the player's performance in a vaccuum I agree Schuler was the bigger flop, but the fact that we gave up so much to get RG3 makes him a bigger disaster for us.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1163415]Hooker has outstanding ball skills, as well.[/QUOTE]



Chico beat me to it. Just wanted to say this was the all time most enticing comment to ever quote.

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1163447]I don't know about other teams worst, except the Chargers and Ryan Leaf. But RG3 was our worst draft pick ever. We would be so much better if we had just stood pat, drafted Cousins or Wilson, and used all those other picks in the RG3 trade.



Even not considering the trade, the RG3 pick was an all-time bust.[/QUOTE]



It cannot be an all time bust because he led us, almost single handily, to a division crown. You can never take that away.
Yes though when you consider what it cost us, and what he has done since - it was certainly a bust.

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[quote=punch it in;1163458]Chico beat me to it. Just wanted to say this was the all time most enticing comment to ever quote.[/quote]

I should have realized that what I was posting could be taken another way.

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[quote=Schneed10;1163454]Taking the player's performance in a vaccuum I agree Schuler was the bigger flop, but the fact that we gave up so much to get RG3 makes him a bigger disaster for us.[/quote]

Agree 100.

The loss of talent in the traded picks, and the wasted pick on RGIII, that would probably be on the roster right now, and probably in the front 7 is huge.

That along with effect the salary cap penalty had on the middle of the roster can't be overstated.

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No no no the magic of that season before the game I won't mention was freaking awesome and makes Schuler the way way way worse pick. Him and Fatassworth's signing are the 2 worst things I can remember as a Skins fan.

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We beat Cowboys on Thanksgiving in Dallas with Bob. That was one of the top 10 sports moments of my life.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1163526]We beat Cowboys on Thanksgiving in Dallas with Bob. That was one of the top 10 sports moments of my life.[/quote]

The final game against Dallas was dven better. When they played HTTR at the end and MNF filmed the whole song, that was one of the top sports moments of my life.

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After watching the major bowl games, I came away a fan of any Defender from LSU, Clemson & Alabama. LSU's D simply suffocated Louisville in that bowl game.

I've been reading the Great Blue North site lately [U] [url=http://gbnreport.com/]Great Blue North Draft Report - Covering The NFL Draft[/url][/U]. Anyway, after the obvious choices (round 1/2),it's tough to know where the gems are.

Here are a couple names they had listed in areas where I thought they could be immediate upgrades...

[B]HENRY LANGI/LB/DE/BYU 6’3/249[/B] #16 This do-everything defender may be a riser as we get into All-Star game action and Combine/Pro Day workouts. BYU had a Top 10 rushing Defense this season and the versatile LANGI played a big part in that work. He split time this season as a LB, and a pass-rusher with his hand on the ground. He is not a superior athlete, but he is a highly productive player with a clearly high FBI. He absolutely covered the field in BYU’s win over Wyoming in the Holiday Bowl. He was dropping into coverage, rushing the passer and, of course, stuffing the Cowboys rushing attack. He finished the night with 16 tackles, to match his uniform number, including 1 TFL. He’s big enough to take on blockers and runners at the point of attack, but also does an excellent job dropping into shallow/medium coverage. Watch for his name in the next 4 months. I just have a notion he will make some noise as a fairly early 3rd Day draftee prospect.

[B]ADAM BUTLER/DL/VANDERBILT 6’4/300 [/B]#69 One of seemingly many DL in this years prospect group who plays the DL with high energy and good intelligence, He is also versatile, as he showed all season and in the Independence Bowl against NC State. He played DT in a standard 4-3 scheme, but moved out to DE in a 3-4 set in passing downs. Vandy was able to use the two different sets interchangeably, in great part because BUTLER was strong enough to play inside on the one hand, but also athletic enough to generate some pocket pressure when moved outside in the DE spot. He showed a very effective and smooth inside-reverse pass rush spin on a couple of occasions. He was credited with 7 tackles in the Bowl match-up. Vandy is not known for great defensive players, but I have a feeling this young man may just rank as draftable, albeit late, by teams looking for versatility and depth along their defensive fronts. Teams like the PACKERS & PATRIOTS come to mind.

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This is my top 17 choices if we stay at 17, meaning I'd pick them in this order. This is assuming we keep Cousins. If for any reason he leaves, Watson jumps to the top of the list:

1. Myles Garrett
2. Dalvin Cook
3. Jonathan Allen
4. Malik Hooker
5. Reuben Foster
6. Teez Tabor
7. Solomon Thomas
8. Caleb Brantley
9. Malik McDowell
10. Taco Charlton
11. Quincy Wilson
12. Zach Cunningham
13. Takkarist Mckinley
14. Cordrea Tankersley
15. T.J. Watt
16. Marshon Lattimore
17. Derek Barnett

Note - the only reason Jamal Adams wasn't included is that he projects as a SS and we are moving Cravens there.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1164043]This is my top 17 choices if we stay at 17, meaning I'd pick them in this order. This is assuming we keep Cousins. If for any reason he leaves, Watson jumps to the top of the list:

1. Myles Garrett
2. Dalvin Cook
3. Jonathan Allen
4. Malik Hooker
5. Reuben Foster
6. Teez Tabor
7. Solomon Thomas
8. Caleb Brantley
9. Malik McDowell
10. Taco Charlton
11. Quincy Wilson
12. Zach Cunningham
13. Takkarist Mckinley
14. Cordrea Tankersley
15. T.J. Watt
16. Marshon Lattimore
17. Derek Barnett

Note - the only reason Jamal Adams wasn't included is that he projects as a SS and we are moving Cravens there.[/quote]

Solid list. Here is a list of prospects that I like:

First Round:
1. Solomon Thomas
2. Deshaun Watson (he would be my first if Cousins does not return)
3. Malik Hooker
4. Reuben Foster
5. Taco Charlton
6. Cam Robinson

Second round and beyond:
1. Caleb Brantley
2. Carlos Watkins
3. Carl Lawson
4. Cordrea Tankersley
5. Dede Westbrook
6. Charles Walker
7. Dorian Johnson
8. Malachi Dupre
9. Wayne Gallman
10. Samaje Perine
11. Noah Brown
12. Josh Harvey-Clemons
13. Antonio Garcia

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If we trade Cousins my hope would be for #2 pick, exchange second round picks (34) and get their 5th. It we can do that then I would draft the following

2. Jonathon Allen DE Alabama
17. Budda Baker FS Washington
34. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
3rd. Pick Kareem Hunt RB Toledo

No Trade
17. Solomon Thomas
2nd Round Justin Evans S Texas A&M or Marcus Williams FS Utah

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1164063]If we trade Cousins my hope would be for #2 pick, exchange second round picks (34) and get their 5th. It we can do that then I would draft the following

2. Jonathon Allen DE Alabama
17. Budda Baker FS Washington
34. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
3rd. Pick Kareem Hunt RB Toledo

No Trade
17. Solomon Thomas
2nd Round Justin Evans S Texas A&M or Marcus Williams FS Utah[/quote]


mock drafts have Soloman Thomas all over the place from top 5 to #17 to the Redskins

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1164063]If we trade Cousins my hope would be for #2 pick, exchange second round picks (34) and get their 5th. It we can do that then I would draft the following

2. Jonathon Allen DE Alabama
17. Budda Baker FS Washington
34. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
3rd. Pick Kareem Hunt RB Toledo

No Trade
17. Solomon Thomas
2nd Round Justin Evans S Texas A&M or Marcus Williams FS Utah[/quote]

Thats not enough of a return for Cousins, throw in another first if you want us to even listen

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Who is everyones favorite CB in the draft? There are a lot of them.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1164063]If we trade Cousins my hope would be for #2 pick, exchange second round picks (34) and get their 5th. It we can do that then I would draft the following

2. Jonathon Allen DE Alabama
17. Budda Baker FS Washington
34. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
3rd. Pick Kareem Hunt RB Toledo

No Trade
17. Solomon Thomas
2nd Round Justin Evans S Texas A&M or Marcus Williams FS Utah[/quote]

So basically in return for our Pro Bowl qb we get 2 rookies and a 5th round rookie?

[yt]DvOHbxBAEN8[/yt]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1161923]Taco Charlton MICH, thats who I want in the 1st.

Montravious Adams is my 2nd option so far[/quote]

I would agree with Charlton. He is an animal. What I like is he actually has more than one pass rush move! He looks like a pure 4-3 end.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1164090]Who is everyones favorite CB in the draft? There are a lot of them.[/quote]

This year I don't really know enough bout the CB crop...usually they are several out there everybody knows at this point, but Safety seems to have the secondary stars. I'm hoping at a shot at one of those in the first or a ballin ass baller in the front seven.

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I want a low down dirty Hooker at 17. But I don't think there's a chance in hell that slut will still be there.