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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1174424]Matt ioannidis and Allen have been the best dlineman so far this year....



Our cb play has been effing great[/QUOTE]



Ioannidis has surprised the shit out of me. Good for him.

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I liked Ionnidis coming out last year. Believed he had potential to develop into an effective NFL lineman.

Of course, I felt the same about Arie Kouandijo.

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[quote=punch it in;1174428]I agree with JR. Gruden is either in one extreme or the other. Run or pass to the point of predictability. He just doesn't seem capable of out thinking opposing coaches.[/quote]

Last week Gruden sd he called some run plays that Cousins checked into pass plays in the 2nd half and he sd he was going to work on it with Cousins. This week, it appears Cousins didnt check out of them.

I think he out thought Wade Phillips yesterday.

This offense seems like a new installment with everyone, including Cousins, learning bit by bit. But I dont see us running the ball 35+ times for over 200 yds any time soon.

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I think yesterday Gruden tried hard to go against his natural tendencies since McVay/Phillips likely knew them very well. It will be interesting to see if he can come to a solid run pass balance.

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Personally I liked the run heavy approach. I was surprised Jay stayed with it, in the past he would have gotten away from it.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1174433]I think yesterday Gruden tried hard to go against his natural tendencies since McVay/Phillips likely knew them very well. It will be interesting to see if he can come to a solid run pass balance.[/QUOTE]



Agreed. I doubt either were expecting run, run, run. I sure wasn't.


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I'd expect Kirk to throw more against OAK, they have a bad pass D.

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Defense is better but Cousins played horribly. I don't know what it is, but he looked nervous. Every time he snapped the ball under center it looked like he was going to fumble it. If he doesn't settle down we will lose a lot of games, because there were a lot of (easy) missed opportunities and other teams won't forgive you. Also the problem with our WRs is worrying to say the least.

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I have to give Gruden a lot of credit for the game plan. The Rams have elite pass rushers but undersized run defenders. Running at them was the best approach and they found a way to be successful.

Btw, it was almost a home game at the Coliseum. Lots of B&G in the stadium!!!

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Was hilarious. There was an audible "DE-FENSE!" chant during multiple occasions.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1174448]I have to give Gruden a lot of credit for the game plan. The Rams have elite pass rushers but undersized run defenders. Running at them was the best approach and they found a way to be successful.



Btw, it was almost a home game at the Coliseum. Lots of B&G in the stadium!!![/QUOTE]



I was listening on the radio and definitely forgot it was an away game more than once.

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I am so glad that Gruden finally decided to do what he said he was going to do and run the ball. And man, I'm telling you, this was like old Redskins football. I'm talking about John Riggins-Joe Gibbs football with the counter-trey and so forth. It worked like a charm. Of course, just like with our luck, Rob Kelley goes down with broken ribs! Really??? I hope Perine will catch on. I think it took Kelley a couple games to get his legs under him, so hopefully Perine will have some better runs. It looked like toward the end, he kind of started gaining some steam. The defense also looks really good too!

The bad thing though, when Ryan Grant is your go-to go, that isn't good news. Crowder needs to stay the slot guy, because that's where he excels at. Doctson needs to start playing some football and Pryor needs to learn to catch. It's hard to say if Cousins looks mediocre because of the lack of talent at wide receiver, or if he looks bad because he's struggling? Maybe it's a little of both, but this is a good litmus test to really find out what we have with Kirk Cousins. Still a long season ahead of us, but when you're staring down Oakland, KC, and Philly after the break, I don't like those odds.

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[quote=over the mountain;1174420]O line was getting a great surge. Some big holes.

Secondary is a legit strength. Kupp (3 catches - 33 yds), Watkins (2-30), Woods (1-8, Austin (1-5). [B]Except for that 70 yard blown coverage play for TE Everett[/B], secondary is shutting things down.

Zach Brown had 10 tackles. Resign him if he will take reasonable money. Kerrigan made 1 play, the strip sack. Jonathan Allen also was credited with 1 tackle.

Tress Way had 4 punts, 51 yd avg, 2 inside the 20, long of 62. Great job.

I feel like this is 2015 Kirk. Not 100% comfortable yet, trying not to make a mistake vs making a big play. No trust to take down field shots. Great job on the game winning drive. great job to punch it in for a TD. Clutch late.[/quote]

To me that was Foster blowing the coverage.
(Love him anyway, been a firm believer in him last season. Called Cooley and Kevin after week 1 in the preseason to say i wanted him and Zach brown to start at ILB.)

EDIT: my bad, rewatched, [B]definitely Everett.[/B]

Positives:

-Playcalling on both sides of the ball
[B]-O line play!!![/B]
-Matt Ioannidis (not the MVP of the game but it's a nice surprise, which we needed at DL)
-Defense overall

Negatives:

-Dropped passes
-A little too much missed tackles to my taste

Again, if this D starts consistently wrapping up, this a tough and solid D !

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I'm not worried about Rob Kelley one way or another, he's completely replacement level in my mind. Meaning Mack Brown or Perine could step in and do the job just as well.

I guess Kelley's a little better in pass pro but Thompson will still be the third down guy anyway.

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On some of those runs that Kelly broke I couldn't help but think if it was Thompson, or maybe even Perine, they would have went for much longer runs. On one he had the defender one on one in the open and it seems like he just ran into him, instead of putting a move on him or breaking out to the sideline. I like Kelley's toughness and ability to get the hard, tough yards, but he is just a guy.

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[quote=Schneed10;1174480]I'm not worried about Rob Kelley one way or another, he's completely replacement level in my mind. Meaning Mack Brown or Perine could step in and do the job just as well.

I guess Kelley's a little better in pass pro but Thompson will still be the third down guy anyway.[/quote]

I'm not sold on Kelley as a long term option either but he was more impressive in the first half yesterday than he has been at any point in his career. I'm excited to see if it was a flash in the pan or if something actually clicked with him, he was hitting gaps and finding the hole in a way he hasn't shown before.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1174484]On some of those runs that Kelly broke I couldn't help but think if it was Thompson, or maybe even Perine, they would have went for much longer runs. On one he had the defender one on one in the open and it seems like he just ran into him, instead of putting a move on him or breaking out to the sideline. I like Kelley's toughness and ability to get the hard, tough yards, but he is just a guy.[/quote]

Totally, he did it last week a couple of times too. He had room to bounce to the outside, but inexplicably he cuts back in right into a defender.

I think Thompson definitely would have, Perine, we'll see.

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Has Mack Brown been elevated? Any news on that?

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[quote=calia;1174494]Has Mack Brown been elevated? Any news on that?[/quote]

Mack is on the 53 man roster...it's just whether he'll be Active (or Inactive) for the game.

My guess is they activate him &[B] he tears it up.[/B]

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Sorry - I meant activated. And I hope you're right. Let's see if a training camp stud can transform into a regular season one.


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[quote=mooby;1174486]I'm not sold on Kelley as a long term option either but he was more impressive in the first half yesterday than he has been at any point in his career. I'm excited to see if it was a flash in the pan or if something actually clicked with him, he was hitting gaps and finding the hole in a way he hasn't shown before.[/quote]

I saw all of his runs were blocked to get 8, and he got 8. Or blocked to get six and he got six. Or blocked to get 12 and he got 12.

He doesn't add anything, he just gets what the line positions him to get.

His one talent is getting one when it's blocked for none.

But that's not an uncommon trait. We need someone that can get more than is there. Thompson can, but play him too much and he'll break down.

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this was probably my favorite redskins game that i've attended. our fan presence was insane. i was on the 40 behind the redskins bench in row 45, there were more redskins jerseys than rams jerseys on our side of the stadium.

so much fun, such a unique stadium. we walked into the stadium tunnel on ground level and emerged 44 rows up. beers were $16 each.

great from start to finish. check this out [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/09/17/redskins-fans-made-their-presence-felt-at-half-full-los-angeles-coliseum/?utm_term=.3bbfc1e0a67a[/url]

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Lol beers were $16 i like that snall but sarcastic addition

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[quote=Schneed10;1174591]I saw all of his runs were blocked to get 8, and he got 8. Or blocked to get six and he got six. Or blocked to get 12 and he got 12.

He doesn't add anything, he just gets what the line positions him to get.

His one talent is getting one when it's blocked for none.

But that's not an uncommon trait. We need someone that can get more than is there. Thompson can, but play him too much and he'll break down.[/quote]

The blocking was better but in week 1 it seemed like he really lacked vision, there would be holes that opened up outside but instead he'd just run right into the back of his blocker and get tackled immediately. Of course, I don't have the time or patience to verify this by watching film so take it with a grain of salt. But it seemed like his vision and the blocking was much improved this week.

Los I'm glad you had a great time. I have nothing nice to say about $16 beers but you could see and hear the cheers on tv when we made a big play. If you check the clip of CT's long td run you can see at least half the fans in the lower bowl were cheering Redskins fans. The Rams must not have much of a fanbase in LA if half the crowd in their sparsely attended stadium are opposing team fans.