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well, that was disappointing.

we have everything we need to get hot and finish strong. they just have to put it all together.

i have faith.

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I also forgot to mention, I'm tired of seeing no effort on blocking field goals. It's 100% on the coach that they don't even try to block it. Curious as to whether he thinks we don't have the personnel for it, but dare I say I miss the days of Danny Smith? We didn't do it often but we had a block here and there.

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After we lose to the Saints we'll have to go undefeated our last 6 to make the playoffs. No playoffs for us.

Let the Cousins contract drama and mock drafting commence.

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[quote=mooby;1179669]Yeah agreed, no sense making Trent suffer the whole season when it's clear we're not going anywhere.

Can't understand how Norman and Breeland let Stefon Diggs and Adam Theilen ball out on them today. Clearly they underestimated the Vikings wideouts.[/quote]

"Underestimated" the Vikings' WR's? I doubt it. Diggs is one of those quick, twitchy dudes, and those types occasionally give Norman trouble.

Breeland is an enigma. He'll have a solid game (whether, against a good or mediocre wideout), and then he'll come back and have a crappy ass game (against a good or average wideout).

The defense clearly let us down. The offense scored 30 points against the #3 ranked D in the NFL, but allow an average offense rip off 38 points. Three plays in this game came back to haunt us, and I said it when those plays happened.

One was the 4th down pass to Chris Thompson. A better pass by Cousins, and it's a TD. We ended up settling for a FG. Instead, of it being 14-7, it's 10-7. Another one was when Doctson had beaten his man in the end zone, but ended up slipping on his route. It would've been an easy TD. A couple plays later, and we're settling for another FG. Instead, of it being 35-24 in favor of the Vikings; it's 35-20. The last one was the bomb where Doctson had two steps on the defender and Cousins overthrew him. That would've made it 35-27 going into the 4th quarter. A couple plays later it's 4th down and the Vikings stop us on downs.

The first two stick out more so than the latter play. If you convert the first two plays, I mentioned, into TD's (which, they should've been), then you clearly have a different ballgame. At worst, it would've been 35-28, Vikings, going into the 4th quarter. A totally, different ballgame.

Another issue with this team.... Consistency. One week, the defense does its job and the offense sucks like a pair of donkey gonads and vice-versa.

I think our defensive line looked better last week because Seattle O-line somewhat stinks. Minnesota O-line is obviously better, and pretty much handled our "backup" defensive line. If Keenum wasn't getting time to throw, then Murray was gashing us up the middle. Basically, their O-line matched up better with our D-line. Frankly, I would've just came after Keenum (after he started eating us up) and let the chips fall where they lay.

Today was a day we missed having guys like Allen and Ioan man. Both of those two were consistently getting a push up the middle on teams. For the person, who stated Phil Taylor was having a good camp and preseason.... That is correct. Imagine, if Allen, Taylor and Ioannidis were healthy.

Only two teams are capable of "getting away" with the amount of injuries we've had and still compete at a good rate. Those teams are the Patriots and Packers. Reason being, they have the two best QB's in the league.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1179726]That was the worst play of the game. He has to stop throwing those off the back foot lob interceptions. But he does it regularly, and hes been in NFL for what 5 or 6 years? And it doesn't get fixed.

Also, taking that dumb sack. Got lucky kicker has a huge boot and made it anyways.[/quote]

The "worst play(s) of the game" were the two dumb ass back-to-back run calls when we still had an opportunity to get back in the game.

One of 'em was a run up the gut by Thompson on 3rd and 1, and then a run on the outside on 4th and 1. Why not throw the ball, as we was having success?

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[quote=Chico23231;1179685]Breeland and Norman got smoked today.

Monte Nicholson needs to get back on the field because him and Swearinger are by far our best safety combo. D Hall and Everett need to sit[/quote]

Hall is done in this league. He had a decent game last week, but that was likely more of it being fool's gold than anything else. I appreciated what he has done as a Redskin, but he's done. Too many injuries to his lower extremities has also robbed him of his dynamite speed, too.

He wasn't playing well last season prior to getting injured. It's time for him to retire.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1179717]I saw it first hand against Dallas, it was sad and embarrassing.

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I kinda expect it when we play teams like the Steelers, Cowboys, Packers, or even the "bandwagon" Patriots at home.

But, when you have a team like the Vikings, and their fans are all throughout the stadium, then you have to wonder. I seriously doubt they have a large fan base.

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I haven't been on jays case all year but yesterday was a disaster, he was clearly over matched and was clueless on a few drives. That 3&1 and 4&1 to CT on both was Jim Zorn like. Jay just never seems to get over the hump either and this is year 4 now.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1179726]That was the worst play of the game. He has to stop throwing those off the back foot lob interceptions. But he does it regularly, and hes been in NFL for what 5 or 6 years? And it doesn't get fixed.

Also, taking that dumb sack. Got lucky kicker has a huge boot and made it anyways.[/quote]

I was watching Brady last night and I swear I rarely see that old ass have bad mechanics. He's just so solid with his motion, never gets rattled...

Anyway KC does that back foot shit when he's getting pressured, sometimes he gets away with it and sometimes he doesn't. He was just plain old average yesterday. Had some good plays, had some bad ones.

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I think our free agents on the dline McClain and McGee have been major disappointments.

Why not just spend that money on a much better, bigger impact player like Calais Campbell?

Terrible signings with little impact

Could have gotten a solid option Nose Tackle.

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They sky isn't falling just yet, but it's hanging low. The Saints game is going to be a tough one. (Underestimating comment of the year!) I had figured we'd win one of these two games (Vikings, Saints) and go into the Thanksgiving game against the Giants at 5-5. But now, very likely heading into Thanksgiving at 4-6 the way the Saints are playing. Then again, none of us saw the Redskins beating the Seahawks in Seattle, with all of our guys hurt, so I'm sticking with the "Any Given Sunday" mantra.

Even if we're 4-6 after next weekend, we're staring down a very light schedule. The Cowboys will be without Elliot, and we saw what happens when they don't have Zeke in there. We have the Giants twice, the Broncos, the Cardinals, Chargers, and Falcons. Am I missing anybody? If any team that is 4-6 by the end of next week has a chance to end at 10-6, it's these Redskins. All, very winnable games. Sure, likely scenario is they go 8-8, which honestly, will probably wind up being a pretty good achievement considering the injuries to all of our key players and our brutal first half schedule.

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It was a classic let down game and let’s face it the Vikings are solid. On to New Orleans, hope we can get healthier that’s the big key.

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Vikings looked every bit of a 6-2 team coming off a bye.

Tip the cap to Case Keenum and the offense for being able to run and execute a playbook.

What needs to be done?

Figure out how to stop the Saints running attack and take your chances with the secondary vs Drew Brees.

Or injure Drew Brees.

Just hyper focus on next week. Win in the Superdome and that door stays cracked open.

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Prior to yesterday, I would have said, "Bring on the Saints!", but KEENUM looked like Brees yesterday. Will we get Matt Ionniinininininnidis back?

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[quote=metalskins;1179754]They sky isn't falling just yet, but it's hanging low. The Saints game is going to be a tough one. (Underestimating comment of the year!) I had figured we'd win one of these two games (Vikings, Saints) and go into the Thanksgiving game against the Giants at 5-5. But now, very likely heading into Thanksgiving at 4-6 the way the Saints are playing. Then again, none of us saw the Redskins beating the Seahawks in Seattle, with all of our guys hurt, so I'm sticking with the "Any Given Sunday" mantra.

Even if we're 4-6 after next weekend, we're staring down a very light schedule. The Cowboys will be without Elliot, and we saw what happens when they don't have Zeke in there. We have the Giants twice, the Broncos, the Cardinals, Chargers, and Falcons. Am I missing anybody? If any team that is 4-6 by the end of next week has a chance to end at 10-6, it's these Redskins. All, very winnable games. Sure, likely scenario is they go 8-8, which honestly, will probably wind up being a pretty good achievement considering the injuries to all of our key players and our brutal first half schedule.[/quote]

Falcons aren’t in the schedule.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1179762]Falcons aren’t in the schedule.[/quote]

I was about to reply with the same response.

Our remaining schedule:
@Saints
vs. Giants
@Cowboys
@Chargers
vs. Broncos
vs. Cardinals
@Giants

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[quote=mooby;1179675]Yup. Depth sucks, and we're really missing Ionnaidis and Allen. I kinda expect our pass rush to suck for the rest of the year. Rushing 4 used to work early on but with our injuries I think Manusky needs to start getting more creative with his blitzes because right now there's no rush.[/quote]

we've had the most unimagined, vanilla, unispired and retarded defense for over 10 years no matter who the coordinator - it's fucking brutal to watch every week. I dont think we have run a stunt, or delayed blitz or anything creative one time ALL SEASON - IT MAKES ME FUCKIN WANNA VOMIT.

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PLAYCALLING IS GARBAGE BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL, IF COUSINS MAKES A FEW OF THOSE THROWS ON TARGET IT MIGHT MEAN 7 NOT 3 - whats with kicking the fg on the second trip downfield at the end of the game but not the first? - I understand 4th and 25 is hard... but if your gonna take points just KEEP taking points... or i was just drunk and gruden made the right call, but, i doubt it.

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[QUOTE=PorkSkins;1179764]I was about to reply with the same response.



Our remaining schedule:

@Saints

vs. Giants

@Cowboys

@Chargers

vs. Broncos

vs. Cardinals

@Giants[/QUOTE]



I see 2-5 being the worst record possible. We split with the Giants, and beat Denver.
I see 6-1 being the best. We lose next week than win out and squeak in to the wildcard spot. If we somehow win next week than the playoffs is a real possibility.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1179746]The "worst play(s) of the game" were the two dumb ass back-to-back run calls when we still had an opportunity to get back in the game.

One of 'em was a run up the gut by Thompson on 3rd and 1, and then a run on the outside on 4th and 1. Why not throw the ball, as we was having success?[/quote]

Those 2 were also terrible. Stong argument for that to be the worst play(s) as well.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1179773]Those 2 were also terrible. Stong argument for that to be the worst play(s) as well.[/quote]

gurdens done if this team doesnt finish .500 - maybe even done if that happens. I'm actually off his bandwagon completely... sadly, cuz i know i should welcome continuity - but between he and manusky, i want change. Period.

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draft baker mayfield.

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[quote=calia;1179727]Our CBs were awful today as were our safeties not named Swearinger (who came to play, as he does every week). Our OLBs were awful (not pressure, not setting the edge), Spaight was a bright spot and Brown was inconsistent, despite having a lot of tackles. Our D line was poor -- plain and simple. They could only stop the run toward the end when it was clear to everyone that it would be run, run, run. No push up the middle. Sad to see such a pathetic defensive outing after last week.

Cannot put too much on Cousins -- he has lost a lot of weapons, and the threat of a run game isn't significant (and his line was OK -- no bad sacks, but no ability to get to second level blocking either).

[B]Playcalling was really uninspired and unimaginative. [/B]

We may have a decent kicker in the making -- the 55 yarder was impressive. Oh, and since when does Forbath make long kicks at FedEx (only for other teams). Geez.[/quote]

this. Wildly on defense, too. I'm fed up with this shit.

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So Rob Kelley is out indefinitely with a high ankle sprain. Great. I wonder if we can re-sign Mack Brown when the Vikings cut him today (as I bet they will, now that they've gotten intel on us). I'm willing to forgive that if he can crank out some yardage for us. We will need a third back in addition to Perine and CT.

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I REALLY had to scratch my head when Perine was actually running with decisiveness and vision and we decide to run a guy who is 180 lbs. right up the middle.

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I don't even know any other RB's on the roster after Perine and CT. Kelley will probably be out for a while so I assume they're going to sign someone? They've really fucked up this RB thing. I keep going back to Morris. If you were going to replace him then you better bring in someone better. So far I just haven't seen that.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1179783]I REALLY had to scratch my head when Perine was actually running with decisiveness and vision and we decide to run a guy who is 180 lbs. right up the middle.[/QUOTE]



That was absolutely terrible and if i am not mistaken we gave it to him again the next play on a toss sweep. Terrible.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1179783]I REALLY had to scratch my head when Perine was actually running with decisiveness and vision and we decide to run a guy who is 180 lbs. right up the middle.[/quote]

Well at the time they were in hurry up so I assume they wanted to leave CT in there. I really didn't have a problem with the call. It was the execution. Shereff got blown up, he's obviously out there playing hurt and it showed. I assume all the of people bitching about the call would think CT can get a god damn yard. He couldn't cause the blocking was shit.

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Well, if it WAS the hurry up, I don't mind it as much. Perine wasn't bad catching the ball yesterday I have to say.

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[quote=Meks;1179780]draft baker mayfield.[/quote]

Mayfield is the kind of draft pick that will get a coach and GM fired. But he sure looks like a #1 pick in the draft. He looks like a polished NFL ready QB. Was really impressed with the way he was moving the db's around with his eyes and pumps against TCU. He was dropping in dimes. But he has been arrested before....

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[QUOTE=Meks;1179780]draft baker mayfield.[/QUOTE]He's gonna be a top 15 pick probably but I'd love that

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[quote=Meks;1179766]we've had the most unimagined, vanilla, unispired and retarded defense for over 10 years no matter who the coordinator - it's fucking brutal to watch every week. I dont think we have run a stunt, or delayed blitz or anything creative one time ALL SEASON - IT MAKES ME FUCKIN WANNA VOMIT.[/quote]

^^^^
This!

It felt like Manusky was coaching scared. He must've thought Keenum was Brady or Rodgers or something.

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[quote=calia;1179782]So Rob Kelley is out indefinitely with a high ankle sprain. Great. I wonder if we can re-sign Mack Brown when the Vikings cut him today (as I bet they will, now that they've gotten intel on us). I'm willing to forgive that if he can crank out some yardage for us. We will need a third back in addition to Perine and CT.[/quote]

I liked Mack Brown, and I thought he was better than Kelley.

By the way, speaking of injuries, Lisfranc injury for Will Compton.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1179791]I liked Mack Brown, and I thought he was better than Kelley.

By the way, speaking of injuries, Lisfranc injury for Will Compton.[/quote]

I'll only say nooo because supposedly he's a nice guy and we're already thin at mike. Not a big loss on the field though. Spaight gonna have to step up.

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[quote=mooby;1179794]I'll only say nooo because supposedly he's a nice guy and we're already thin at mike. Not a big loss on the field though. Spaight gonna have to step up.[/quote]

I agree with you to an extent, but it's another killer to depth (as, you mentioned we're already "thin" at the position).

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[quote=skinsfan69;1179784]I don't even know any other RB's on the roster after Perine and CT. Kelley will probably be out for a while so I assume they're going to sign someone? They've really fucked up this RB thing. I keep going back to Morris. If you were going to replace him then you better bring in someone better. So far I just haven't seen that.[/quote]

Should have signed all day Peterson....coulda flourish here

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[quote=Chico23231;1179797]Should have signed all day Peterson....coulda flourish here[/quote]

Does make you think, why not? Yes, we needed to get out of the deal of signing players who were beyond their prime, but Peterson can still play at a high level.

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[quote=metalskins;1179803]Does make you think, why not? Yes, we needed to get out of the deal of signing players who were beyond their prime, but Peterson can still play at a high level.[/quote]

Idk nothing about AZ's o-line, but Peterson had 21 carries for 29 yards. Seahawks have a good d but that's pretty terrible. Other than his first game there he hasn't impressed either.

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Tough loss.

It looked like once again injuries hold us back even with some of the guys being back:

-Zach Brown looked slow and wasn't 100% for sure, his ankle injury must have bothered him quite a lot.

-Brandon Scherff obviously wasn't himself either, he got badly beaten on at least 2 key plays late in the game.

Some things make me scratch my head though:

-Why do we have so many drops (Doctson, Crowder ...) in key moments?

-Why did our secondary (minus Swearinger) looked lost? Norman and Breeland were not in the game. Maybe they're still injured. But at some point I was wishing for Dunbar to get in...

Now, this being said, we lost against a division leader that is on a hot streak. Offense looked pretty good and we got a chance until late in the game. No reason to burn the house.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1179795]I agree with you to an extent, but it's another killer to depth (as, you mentioned we're already "thin" at the position).[/quote]

I also wonder whether the crappy turf at FedEx is leading to these Lisfranc injuries. We have seemed to have at least one a year for years now, and I don't know of other teams that seem to face them as often as we seem to do. I cannot help but notice that the injuries to Allen (during the 49ers game) and now Compton both came during home games.

It's like the stadium equivalent of the cornballer (for any of you Arrested Development fans out there).