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Ruhskins 01-14-2018 04:56 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1185620]Patricia to the Lions.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-coaching-rumors-lions-reportedly-expected-to-hire-new-england-dc-matt-patricia/[/url][/quote]

I wonder if he'll break the curse of Bellicheat's assistants failing as head coaches in the NFL.

Giantone 01-14-2018 05:03 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1185669]I wonder if he'll break the curse of Bellicheat's assistants failing as head coaches in the NFL.[/quote]

He is walking into a pretty good team.

calia 01-14-2018 05:21 PM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1185670]He is walking into a pretty good team.[/QUOTE]



And he’s a good coach; guys play with discipline on his units and he doesn’t have stars. Lots of coordinators excel in that role and flop in the HC role (Norv Turner, Wade Phillips, and Jim Swartz come to mind). So hard to predict who will be successful when taking on the additional responsibilities of a HC.


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skinsfaninok 01-15-2018 10:06 AM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/15/mike-mularkey-out-as-titans-head-coach/]Mike Mularkey out as Titans’ head coach – ProFootballTalk[/url]

Add another job to the list and the best one iMO.. Young stud QB with a good line and D.

Chico23231 01-15-2018 10:42 AM

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My no 1 thing I’m praying for is Jim Schwartz to leave to go HC somewhere. He is too good to be at Philly.

skinsfaninok 01-15-2018 03:23 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/15/report-josh-mcdaniels-expected-to-be-next-colts-coach/]Report: Josh McDaniels expected to be next Colts coach – ProFootballTalk[/url]

another one

Giantone 01-15-2018 04:29 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/15/report-pat-shurmur-expected-to-take-giants-job/]Report: Pat Shurmur expected to take Giants job – ProFootballTalk[/url]

skinsfaninok 01-15-2018 04:31 PM

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changes all day apparently. I think that is a solid hire for NY, look what he has done with Keenum and CO. Q is does he take him to NY as well?

Giantone 01-15-2018 04:50 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1185814]changes all day apparently. I think that is a solid hire for NY, look what he has done with Keenum and CO. Q is does he take him to NY as well?[/quote]

Being a free agent and you already have a young QB in Webb and paying ELI I doubt it.I do think he keeps Spags for the D.

Chico23231 01-15-2018 05:37 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1185813][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/15/report-pat-shurmur-expected-to-take-giants-job/]Report: Pat Shurmur expected to take Giants job – ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Good luck!

Giantone 01-15-2018 05:43 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1185821]Good luck![/quote]

Thank you.

Chico23231 01-15-2018 06:52 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1185823]Thank you.[/quote]

You think he will bring Casey keenum along if Vikes let him go?. DP said today there is rumbling that teddy bridgewater is the preferred qb of the future.

Giantone 01-15-2018 08:21 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1185826]You think he will bring Casey keenum along if Vikes let him go?. DP said today there is rumbling that teddy bridgewater is the preferred qb of the future.[/quote]

Please see reply in post #49

SFREDSKIN 01-20-2018 07:42 PM

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Great hire!!

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000908424/article/tennessee-titans-name-mike-vrabel-new-head-coach]Tennessee Titans name Mike Vrabel new head coach - NFL.com[/url]

Giantone 01-20-2018 08:35 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1186119]Great hire!][/quote]



Four years of coaching and he is a head coach in the NFL,why is it a "Great hire"?

SFREDSKIN 01-20-2018 09:56 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1186120]Four years of coaching and he is a head coach in the NFL,why is it a "Great hire"?[/quote]

He's been up and coming, his defenses have been pretty good despite injuries to Clowney and Watt. I think he'll be a pretty good coach who's a fiery competitor.

Giantone 01-21-2018 05:57 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1186122]He's been up and coming, his defenses have been pretty good despite injuries to Clowney and Watt. I think he'll be a pretty good coach who's a fiery competitor.[/quote]

Kinda what I mean.He has only coached four years and has had some great talent to work with so I question if it's him or the talent and then he has never coached the Offense or special teams. Yeah I know he has played it but that is a whole different game.

Buffalo Bob 01-21-2018 08:57 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1186119]Great hire!!

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000908424/article/tennessee-titans-name-mike-vrabel-new-head-coach]Tennessee Titans name Mike Vrabel new head coach - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

Only one year as a defensive coordinator, and before that a position coach for only a couple years? I think it could be a little soon for a head coaching job in the NFL. Most successful coaches have more of a background.

skinsfan69 01-21-2018 09:36 AM

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The Vrabel hire is a complete joke. The Texans defense sucked. How is he going to get Mariota better? A lot more people out there that have paid their dues. The NFL is all over the Patriots nuts that it's laughable. How did McDaniels fare w/out Brady? He's so smart that he drafted Tebow in the 1ST ROUND. LOL. How did his offense look in St. Louis when he was the OC?

I swear the NFL thinks that all these Patriots assistants and front office folks have some kind of majic wan or something. I can't wait for Brady to retire and then we'll see how good they are. He should go into Kraft's office and ask for a piece of the franchise.

skinsfan69 01-21-2018 09:41 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1185813][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/15/report-pat-shurmur-expected-to-take-giants-job/]Report: Pat Shurmur expected to take Giants job – ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

What a boring ass hire. That's the best the all mighty Giants could do? He doesn't seem like he has the kind of personality that's ready to deal with NY. Whoever the person is that fired Coughlin should be fired.

skinsfan69 01-21-2018 09:44 AM

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[quote=doughtydoubter;1185472]Ive always been of the opinion that Cam has always under-performed and has been a waste of potential.
I think Norvs offense may be good for him and could push him.[/quote]

Cam's issues are partly his throwing mechanics. If he could get with the right coach that would be a stickler on that he'd be a much better passer.

Giantone 01-21-2018 10:32 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1186131]What a boring ass hire. That's the best the all mighty Giants could do? He doesn't seem like he has the kind of personality that's ready to deal with NY. Whoever the person is that fired Coughlin should be fired.[/quote]

Oh well,good thing you don't have to worry about it.

skinsfaninok 01-22-2018 02:46 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/22/cardinals-announce-steve-wilks-is-their-new-head-coach/]Cardinals announce Steve Wilks is their new head coach – ProFootballTalk[/url]

metalskins 01-22-2018 03:39 PM

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1186129]Only one year as a defensive coordinator, and before that a position coach for only a couple years? I think it could be a little soon for a head coaching job in the NFL. Most successful coaches have more of a background.[/quote]

Sean McVay.

Giantone 01-22-2018 04:34 PM

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[quote=metalskins;1186305]Sean McVay.[/quote]

Ben mcAdoo

diehardskin2982 01-22-2018 05:00 PM

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I would be interested in hiring Dick LeBeau as a consultant to make the defense better.

Buffalo Bob 01-22-2018 05:41 PM

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[quote=metalskins;1186305]Sean McVay.[/quote]

Give him some time, there are plenty of one hit wonders in the NFL coaching ranks. One year does not make him the next great NFL head coach.

Giantone 02-06-2018 08:30 PM

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McDaniels turned down the Colts ,he is staying in NE.


[url]https://twitter.com/search?q=McDaniels+turns+down+colts&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch[/url]

Ruhskins 02-06-2018 09:37 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1188120]McDaniels turned down the Colts ,he is staying in NE.


[url]https://twitter.com/search?q=McDaniels+turns+down+colts&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch[/url][/quote]

Probably a blessing in disguise for the Colts. McD ran the Broncos into the ground. Belicheat's assistants are just not that successful as HCs.

rocnrik 02-06-2018 11:30 PM

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This whole josh McDaniels deal stinks!! How the hell do you get hired as head coach and sign off on hiring assistants and then back out?? This is worse than any thing the skins have done !

MTK 02-07-2018 07:19 AM

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Sucks for Indy to have to start the coaching search over this late in the game, but there were rumors this could happen

metalskins 02-07-2018 08:52 AM

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If I was a possible, future, employer for McDaniels, I'd be a little hesitant on hiring him after this stunt. Yes, I realize Belichick did something very similar years ago, but it just seems kind of flaky to me. I think he knows BB is stepping down soon and feels he's next in line for the Patriots job.

Redskins247 02-07-2018 09:01 AM

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[quote=metalskins;1188143]If I was a possible, future, employer for McDaniels, I'd be a little hesitant on hiring him after this stunt. Yes, I realize Belichick did something very similar years ago, but it just seems kind of flaky to me. I think he knows BB is stepping down soon and feels he's [B]next in line for the Patriots job[/B].[/quote]

Possibly Kraft all but promised him this...but why would you want that? I'd hate to be the coach that follows Belichick and Brady....that ceiling is so high there's no way you could follow those 2 and have success. Richie Petitbon anyone??

skinsfaninok 02-07-2018 09:01 AM

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Who wants to go to Indy??? Luck is a ? May never play again and they have nothing around him

metalskins 02-07-2018 10:40 AM

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[quote=Redskins247;1188145]Possibly Kraft all but promised him this...but why would you want that? I'd hate to be the coach that follows Belichick and Brady....that ceiling is so high there's no way you could follow those 2 and have success. Richie Petitbon anyone??[/quote]

Someone has to coach the Patriots after BB leaves. I think if you're a competitor, and this applies to coaches as well as players, you want to have that chance to continue the winning tradition.

Giantone 02-07-2018 04:38 PM

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I Like Frank Reich

MTK 02-08-2018 11:23 AM

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[quote=metalskins;1188143]If I was a possible, future, employer for McDaniels, I'd be a little hesitant on hiring him after this stunt. Yes, I realize Belichick did something very similar years ago, but it just seems kind of flaky to me. I think he knows BB is stepping down soon and feels he's next in line for the Patriots job.[/quote]

I wouldn't be surprised if he's on a "do not hire" list for a lot of NFL teams now.

skinsfan69 02-08-2018 11:45 AM

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McDaniels drafted Tebow in the first round and one of his assistants was caught taping another teams walk through. His offense stunk in St. Louis. That pretty much should tell you to never ever hire the guy as a head coach. Yet there teams that still have a hard on for the guy cause he calls plays for Tom Brady. Have any of the Patriots assistants done well after they left?

skinsfaninok 02-08-2018 11:47 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1188182]McDaniels drafted Tebow in the first round and one of his assistants was caught taping another teams walk through. His offense stunk in St. Louis. That pretty much should tell you to never ever hire the guy as a head coach. Yet there teams that still have a hard on for the guy cause he calls plays for Tom Brady. Have any of the Patriots assistants done well after they left?[/quote]

Nope because none of them have TOM BRADY lol, that is the only reason these guys get jobs, Tom and Bill make them all look better than they are

metalskins 02-08-2018 12:17 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188183]Nope because none of them have TOM BRADY lol, that is the only reason these guys get jobs, Tom and Bill make them all look better than they are[/quote]

Kind of like Joe Gibbs' assistants. I don't remember Joe Bugel being very successful as a head coach, and we know Richie Petitbon was not successful. It might be a good thing that he stays with New England. We can see the slow burn of a once great dynasty being torn down.


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