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skinsfaninok 07-25-2018 09:40 AM

Re: Training Camp 2018
 
[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-pff-training-camp-preview-redskins[/url]

Side note here : Trent would be the highest graded returning player but the injury bug got the best of him. (as it did the whole damn team)

I'm excited for this roster though. Very talented

Chico23231 07-25-2018 10:21 AM

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[quote=MTK;1196879][url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/need-know-11-redskins-predictions-defense[/url]

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/need-know-11-redskins-predictions-offense[/url][/quote]

I'm extremely excited to see the tandem of J Allen, D Payne and Zach Brown versus the run. I think Im finally satisfied with the talent level here in addressing this major issue.

Stout NT at point of attack: check; Immovable object/Nickle DT who can set the edge strong side in the base: check, Volume tackler in a funnel at LB: check.

skinsfaninok 07-25-2018 10:24 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1196869]Doesn't make any sense. Then black it out on DirecTV locally. I don't see how anyone benefits from a person outside of that market not getting to watch the pre season games. Oh well. Its never gonna change.[/quote]

NFL.COM offers the PS package but it's not worth the $50 or whatever it is imo.

Meks 07-25-2018 10:27 AM

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anything to make money smh, greedy as fuck, its the pre- season - i'll just stream it from one of the many available places to do so that i wont mention that have worked just fine in the past. Smh, greedy bastards.

Schneed10 07-25-2018 10:28 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1196882]I'm extremely excited to see the tandem of J Allen, D Payne and Zach Brown versus the run. I think Im finally satisfied with the talent level here in addressing this major issue.

Stout NT at point of attack: check; Immovable object/Nickle DT who can set the edge strong side in the base: check, Volume tackler in a funnel at LB: check.[/quote]

And adequate depth as rotational defensive linemen, too. Ziggy Hood at end will look much better. Ioannidis coming in as an interior rusher in the nickel. Anthony Lanier offering depth as a rusher and Phil Taylor & Stacey McGee offering depth as run stoppers.

And maybe Iaonnidis beats out Hood for the other end spot, who knows. All I know is the quality of depth breeds that high quality competition you need in camp to set a tone throughout the season.

Excited to see what Tomsula does with this group. And Zach Brown sitting behind it all being like "I got you, big fellas."

Exciting times.

MTK 07-25-2018 11:14 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1196885]And adequate depth as rotational defensive linemen, too. Ziggy Hood at end will look much better. Ioannidis coming in as an interior rusher in the nickel. Anthony Lanier offering depth as a rusher and Phil Taylor & Stacey McGee offering depth as run stoppers.

And maybe Iaonnidis beats out Hood for the other end spot, who knows. All I know is the quality of depth breeds that high quality competition you need in camp to set a tone throughout the season.

Excited to see what Tomsula does with this group. And Zach Brown sitting behind it all being like "I got you, big fellas."

Exciting times.[/quote]

Sounds like you've got Hood starting over Ioannidis? I definitely don't see that happening. Allen, Payne, Ioannidis are the starters. Lanier and Settle coming off the bench. 6th spot up for grabs, maybe Hood? Possible they could keep 7.

skinsfaninok 07-25-2018 11:21 AM

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Man I can't believe Hankins hasn't been signed anywhere yet..

MTK 07-25-2018 11:22 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1196887]Man I can't believe Hankins hasn't been signed anywhere yet..[/quote]

At this point he's probably better off waiting for a camp injury. He lost all of his leverage for a big money deal with the draft.

Meks 07-25-2018 11:28 AM

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[quote=MTK;1196888]At this point he's probably better off waiting for a [B]camp injury[/B]. He lost all of his leverage for a big money deal with the draft.[/quote]

or under-performance .... He'll eventually get signed, and im sure he doesn't mind sitting out a training camp lol

sdskinsfan2001 07-25-2018 11:43 AM

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Do we have any salary cap space to sign him? Good chance he's looking at less money than signing earlier.

MTK 07-25-2018 11:47 AM

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The Redskins signing Hankins at this point would be overkill.

Meks 07-25-2018 11:51 AM

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agreed. I'd rather let our younger guys keep and begin developing

sdskinsfan2001 07-25-2018 11:52 AM

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[quote=MTK;1196891]The Redskins signing Hankins at this point would be overkill.[/quote]

Yeah it would definitely be a luxury item more than any kind of actual need.

Payne, Allen, Ioannidis, Hankins, Settle, & Lanier would be so nasty tho.

Chico23231 07-25-2018 11:57 AM

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Man I wish we woulda spent that Stacy McGee money on a Left Guard.

skinsfaninok 07-25-2018 12:25 PM

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Blow to the #Giants defense: CB Sam Beal, who was selected in the 3rd round of the supplemental draft, will miss the entire season with a shoulder injury, per @diannaESPN.

Chico23231 07-25-2018 12:34 PM

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[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/25/browns-expect-josh-gordon-back-will-consider-dez-bryant/[/url]

When Gordon, who did not report to training camp while dealing with reported “mental health and anxiety” issues, might be back is less clear, however. Dorsey didn’t answer whether he’s been assured that Gordon won’t be suspended and didn’t offer a timeline for the receiver’s return.

“It could mean many things, a month, 3, days, 10 days, 30 days….let’ see what it is,” Dorsey said, via Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com.


WTF? What a mess....Brining in Dez now?

Schneed10 07-25-2018 01:56 PM

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[quote=MTK;1196886]Sounds like you've got Hood starting over Ioannidis? I definitely don't see that happening. Allen, Payne, Ioannidis are the starters. Lanier and Settle coming off the bench. 6th spot up for grabs, maybe Hood? Possible they could keep 7.[/quote]

I could certainly see Ioannidis beating Hood for the starting End spot opposite Jonathan Allen but I can't see him being anywhere close to the roster bubble. Tomsula likes him a ton.

I could easily see the rotation being Hood starting at end in the base defense, and Ioannidis starting next to Allen in the nickel formation. Which let's be honest, the nickel formation is used much more often.

I could also see it being Ioannidis starting at end in the base, and Hood becoming a rotational guy. But in such a scenario, Hood becomes the top sub for the end spots, for sure.

Lanier has rush skills but dismal against the run, so he becomes the depth guy for the nickel rush package. Settle will be a rotational run stuffer but he won't see the field in the nickel pass rush package. Hood played out of position at NT last year and didn't perform well but the coaches will say they like him tons better as an end. I think he'll show enough quickness and enough ability at the point of attack to be considered a versatile enough player to start in base.

Remember, Ioannidis was not starting last year in the base defense. He was coming in as the nickel rush specialist alongside Allen.

Meks 07-25-2018 03:41 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1196897]I could certainly see Ioannidis beating Hood for the starting End spot opposite Jonathan Allen but I can't see him being anywhere close to the roster bubble. Tomsula likes him a ton.

I could easily see the rotation being Hood starting at end in the base defense, and Ioannidis starting next to Allen in the nickel formation. [B]Which let's be honest, the nickel formation is used much more often.[/B]

I could also see it being Ioannidis starting at end in the base, and Hood becoming a rotational guy. But in such a scenario, Hood becomes the top sub for the end spots, for sure.

Lanier has rush skills but dismal against the run, so he becomes the depth guy for the nickel rush package. Settle will be a rotational run stuffer but he won't see the field in the nickel pass rush package. Hood played out of position at NT last year and didn't perform well but the coaches will say they like him tons better as an end. I think he'll show enough quickness and enough ability at the point of attack to be considered a versatile enough player to start in base.

Remember, Ioannidis was not starting last year in the base defense. He was coming in as the nickel rush specialist alongside Allen.[/quote]

Lol in years past i've seen WAY too much of the "base look" -- really think we took even a small step forward last year in getting away from that b/c for 10 years i feelk like this has been the most vanilla ass defense ever in life lol ... and i have expressed such opinions on this site.... So ... i hope we get more creative with pressures, stunts and coverage schemes. IM PRAYING.

calia 07-25-2018 03:54 PM

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And so it begins (and not in a good way)....

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/freak-accident-sidelines-redskins-corner-josh-holsey-start-training-camp[/url]

Let's hope TC (and pre-TC) injuries are at a minimum. With the competition at the CB spot, I hope for Holsey's sake that he gets out there soon.

Meks 07-25-2018 03:56 PM

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[quote=calia;1196899]And so it begins (and not in a good way)....

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/freak-accident-sidelines-redskins-corner-josh-holsey-start-training-camp[/url]

Let's hope TC (and pre-TC) injuries are at a minimum. With the competition at the CB spot, I hope for Holsey's sake that he gets out there soon.[/quote]

*facepalm*

Irrefutable 07-25-2018 04:03 PM

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McGee on PUP list too

Chico23231 07-25-2018 04:05 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1196901]McGee on PUP list too[/quote]

pssshhhh...what a fucking waste of space. should have cut his ass and gotten a real left guard. Not this same bullshit with Luavao year after year. Im with Tandler on the MTK articles, Luavao is on the bench by mid season.

JPPT1974 07-25-2018 04:34 PM

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Yeah as really it is about Alex Smith taking it to the next level. And really defense that wins the game. Just need to have Payne step up on D.L.

CRedskinsRule 07-25-2018 05:54 PM

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PUP at the beginning of camp isn't a big issue, it gives the team flexibility to deal with issues. If he stays on longer than a week it maybe is.

Defensewins 07-25-2018 08:02 PM

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The good:our d-line is stout and loaded.
The bad:many players that cannot participate or are on limited duty. We haven’t had a single practice yet.

MTK 07-25-2018 08:28 PM

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1196906]The good:our d-line is stout and loaded.

The bad:many players that cannot participate or are on limited duty. We haven’t had a single practice yet.[/QUOTE]


Two guys are starting on PUP, Holsey and McGee. I’d say that’s pretty good.

Chico23231 07-26-2018 08:10 AM

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Josh Doctson better be on the field this morning

skinsfaninok 07-26-2018 08:34 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1196911]Josh Doctson better be on the field this morning[/quote]

LOL I think he'll be ok man, stay positive!! (keep Dez on speed dial)

metalskins 07-26-2018 10:10 AM

Re: Training Camp 2018
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1196913]LOL I think he'll be ok man, stay positive!! (keep Dez on speed dial)[/quote]

Dez is headed to Cleveland to completely kill his career.

skinsfaninok 07-26-2018 10:42 AM

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[quote=metalskins;1196921]Dez is headed to Cleveland to completely kill his career.[/quote]

Horrible decision

metalskins 07-26-2018 10:47 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1196923]Horrible decision[/quote]

Yep! on Cleveland's part! :D

skinsfaninok 07-26-2018 10:59 AM

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Zach Brown came out of tent with his left knee wrapped. He’s standing on sidelines without helmet on. #Redskins

Welp here we go

skinsfan69 07-26-2018 11:05 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1196911]Josh Doctson better be on the field this morning[/quote]

I have very little confidence in Doc. I don't think he'll ever be more than a 40 to 50 catch 5 td guy. The guys that are below him on the depth chart could probably have more production if given the opportunity.

Chico23231 07-26-2018 11:15 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1196928]I have very little confidence in Doc. I don't think he'll ever be more than a 40 to 50 catch 5 td guy. The guys that are below him on the depth chart could probably have more production if given the opportunity.[/quote]

Well at least he is on the field today...but Josh needs to show..make or break for him this year.

skinsfaninok 07-26-2018 11:17 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1196929]Well at least he is on the field today...but Josh needs to show..make or break for him this year.[/quote]

70 Catches 800 yards 6 tds this yr

Schneed10 07-26-2018 12:02 PM

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Doctson is practicing

sdskinsfan2001 07-26-2018 12:31 PM

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80 catches, 1100 yards, 8 tds. Its go time.

I'm either going to get the Lloyd Christmas Optimist Award or eat a big fat plate of crow. C'mon Doctson!

Meks 07-26-2018 12:45 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1196937]80 catches, 1100 yards, 8 tds. Its go time.

I'm either going to get the[B] Lloyd Christmas Optimist Award[/B] or eat a big fat plate of crow. C'mon Doctson![/quote]


"You know what I'm sick and tired of, SdSkins fan? I'm sick and tired of having to eek our way through seasons. I'm sick and tired of being nobodys... but most of all ... I'm sick and tired of not winning games."

Chico23231 07-26-2018 12:48 PM

Re: Training Camp 2018
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1196927]Zach Brown came out of tent with his left knee wrapped. He’s standing on sidelines without helmet on. #Redskins

Welp here we go[/quote]

quad strain...no big deal

skinsfaninok 07-26-2018 12:48 PM

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ZB is day to day with a quad strain per Keim


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