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Today was a textbook example of why I gave up my season tickets years ago. The Redskins give fans a subpar product at home, when you should have an advantage. I haven't been to a game since the beat down Philly gave us in the 2013 opener, and I'm in no hurry to throw my hard earned money away on efforts like today's.

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2016 nfl draft: Fucking fuck you fucks

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1200548]Will they sign Vontae Davis? Vernon's brother(?)



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The guy who just walked out on his team? Are you serious?


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[quote=calia;1200555]The guy who just walked out on his team? Are you serious?


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no, of course, not....it would be typical Redskin mistake

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1200512]Yep, definitely didn't need to upgrade the LG spot...

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkBullockNFL/status/1041414752923275266/video/1[/url][/quote]

[quote=skinsfan69;1200532]Had Smith thrown w/ better anticipation it's and easy completion to Reed.[/quote]


Agree with skinsfan69, he was looking at Reed and came off him when he was about to be wide open. Luvao's incompetence should have been irrelevant on this play, this one was all on Alex.

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I still cannot get over how flat they were. Seriously, what the hell was that? How does that happen? It better no happen next week or they're going to be slaughtered, and then people really will be calling for Gruden to get canned during the bye week.

To be clear, I don't want people to overreact, even though I have (and have had for a while now) some real concerns about our coaching staff -- no adjustments, too many games where they come out flat, lack of imaginative play calling to create individual mismatches, poor talent acquisition. But a bad loss at home after a strong win on the road is not cause for panic. Concern, sure. Frustration, absolutely. And I also concede that it's really hard not to be pissed off when it seems to happen year after year. But this team is still really early on in this season. Let's see where we are at week 8 or so -- we do have a lot of new players (including at the key QB spot) and a lot of starters coming back from injury, particularly on offense (Williams, Luavo, Scherff, Moses, Thompson, Reed). I know -- other teams have those issues too, but there were few teams as beat up as we were last year. And so there are few teams that will need to make the kind of rebound from that which we still haven't yet made.

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[quote=jamf;1200554]2016 nfl draft: Fucking fuck you fucks[/quote]

Welcome to the Warpath, Samuel L. Jackson.

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Read more than 1 article with players mentioning low energy. How the fuck do you already not have energy in the 2nd week of the season? Especially coming off a win and being the 1st home game. That's such a huge indictment on Jay Gruden, moreso, than any x's and o's. Terrible.

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This team was flat from the very beginning starting with the D allowing long runs. Then the offense with Peterson couldn’t do anything, how about trying Kelly and see if he could at least move the ball? Smith is afraid to throw deep, didn’t see any deep balls last week either. One last thing, Norman and Kerrigan should be gone next year with the amount of $$$ they are making and lack of productivity.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1200549]We don't need any CBs. We need LG and WR

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And edge rusher, rb, qb, head coach, new staff, and a better stadium.

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[quote=ethat001;1200557]Agree with skinsfan69, he was looking at Reed and came off him when he was about to be wide open. Luvao's incompetence should have been irrelevant on this play, this one was all on Alex.[/quote]

The worst part about this play is it should have been an easy pre snap read for Smith cause a LB was on Reed. He should have saw that and never came off of him. That sack is 100% on the QB, even though Luvao gets abused and ends up on his ass.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1200560]Read more than 1 article with players mentioning low energy. How the fuck do you already not have energy in the 2nd week of the season? Especially coming off a win and being the 1st home game. That's such a huge indictment on Jay Gruden, moreso, than any x's and o's. Terrible.[/quote]

I just imagine Gruden hung a "Mission Accomplished" banner at Redskins Park after week 1, looking that flat is a total indictment of the HC not preparing them.

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Negatives are pretty obvious, and plentiful.

So I'd like to focus on the positives of this game, not to deny the negatives, but to temper the "burn the house down" (legitimate) feeling:

I'd like to make the case that despite the lack of pass rush, our D played a solid game. So here's a breakdown of all yesterday's game's possessions:

[U]-Colts: 11 plays, 75 yards, 5:35, [B]TD[/B][/U]
-Skins: 5 plays, 31 yards, 2:48 PUNT
[U]-Colts: 4 plays, 4 yards, 1:39 [B]PUNT[/B][/U]
-Skins: 8 plays, 16 yards, 4:01 PUNT
[U]-Colts: 8 plays, 58 yards, 2:48[B] INT[/B][/U]
-Skins: 5 plays, 27 yards, 1:57 FG (49yards)
[U]-Colts: 8 plays, 75 yards, 4:21 [B]TD[/B] (big PI call on Moreau for 37 yards)[/U]
-Skins: 4 plays, 4 yards, 1:25 PUNT
[U]-Colts: 4 plays, 8 yards, 1:27 [B]PUNT[/B][/U]
-Skins: 8 plays, 7 yards, 2:07 PUNT
[U]-Colts: 4 plays, 6 yards, 0:57 [B]PUNT[/B][/U]
-Skins: 6 plays, 54 yards, 0:50 MISSED FG (49 yards)
[U]-Colts: kneel down HALF.[/U]
-Skins: 10 plays, 38 yards, 4:22 PUNT
[U]-Colts: 3 plays, 0 yards 1:21 [B]INT[/B][/U]
-Skins: 7 plays, 20 yards, 3:37 FG (27yards)
[U]-Colts: 4 plays, 5 yards, 1:05 [B]PUNT[/B][/U]
-Skins: 11 plays, 42 yards, 6:07 FG (49 yards) (14 to 9, 13:28 to play)
[U]-Colts: 13 plays, 75 yards, 5:56 [B]TD[/B][/U] (21 to 9, 7:32 to play)
-Skins: 8 plays, 46 yards, 2:33 FUMBLE (this definitely killed the game)
[U]-Colts: 6 plays, 22 yards, 1:12 [B]PUNT[/B][/U]
-Skins: 13 plays, 3:29 TOD
[U]-Colts: kneel down EOTG[/U]

So basically, out of 10 legit possessions, the Redskins Defense allowed 4 drives, one ended with an INT, 3 with TDs.

Put another way: [B][U]10 Colts' possessions, 5 punts, 2 turnovers.[/U][/B]

IMO this loss is like 90% on the Offense, they kept giving the ball back. Longest drive was [I][U]54 yards[/U][/I] (missed FG before the half), longest in TOP was [I][U]6:07 and it was late in the game[/U][/I].

The first drive of the game was unacceptable, but this Defense gave us a chance: [B][U]14 to 9 with 13:28 left in the 4th[/U][/B] was a miracle with how poorly the offense played! 21 to 9 with 7:32 to play is still a winnable game, [I][U]you should be able to come back from a 12 points deficit in football[/U][/I]!

Again, they did give up 4 long drives (3 TD, 1 INT), but the other 6 possessions combined, they allowed: 0 points, 45 yards and 7:41 of game time. That's 7.5 yards and 1:17 per possession.
Yes, when they couldn't stop them once they got in our Redzone, but my point is [I][U]during most of the game they did a really good job of quickly giving the ball back to the Offense[/U][/I], which didn't do anything with it.

Have to watch it again, but from the top of my head I'd say [I][U]the middle of our Dline, Mason Foster, Dj Swearinger and Dunbar all played well[/U][/I].

Agree with those saying the biggest negative is [B]how flat and unprepared the Offense (and the D on the first drive) looked[/B] . After a big week 1 win on the road, this is unacceptable, unforgivable and inexplicable...

But talent is (mostly) here, and we're [B]1-1[/B], [I][U]first in a division that doesn't look as good as everyone expected[/U][/I].

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1200560]Read more than 1 article with players mentioning low energy. How the fuck do you already not have energy in the 2nd week of the season? Especially coming off a win and being the 1st home game. That's such a huge indictment on Jay Gruden, moreso, than any x's and o's. Terrible.[/quote]

If these guys need the coaching staff to give them energy with the chance to go 2-0 in the home opener then this team has the wrong players.

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Piss poor performance across the board, more so on the offense IMO.

Gotta rebound against GB.

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[QUOTE=irish;1200567]If these guys need the coaching staff to give them energy with the chance to go 2-0 in the home opener then this team has the wrong players.[/QUOTE]Agreed.

Sometimes it's more about locker room leaders than coaches. Or at the very least, if your coach can't do it, captains should be able to!

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[quote=punch it in;1200562]and edge rusher, rb, qb, head coach, new staff, and a better stadium.[/quote]

new owner

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Heard a great breakdown by Craig Huffman driving into work. Really good observations from tape...Breakdown

Offense:

1. Put the loss on the O-line and Jay Gruden inability to change the gameplan at somepoint in the 2nd quarter.

A. Oline was bad across the board with pass and run blocking. Everyone had a bad game. Moses, Luavao especially....even Trent wasn't good. Huffman said the injury to Trent makes him nervous to hear about today from Jay.

B. Game plan was typical Jay Gruden....forget what worked last week and came out trying to throw deep and get chunk plays. Colts were expecting it and played a soft zone with over the top help. Colts outcoached Jay Gruden fairly easy. Only after halftime did Jay adjust which if he did earlier in the game, might have resulted in touchdowns. Jay went to quick throws second half with paid off. Overall play calls weren't good.

C. WR and QB play... WRs: Doctson and P Rich need to make the tough catches. They missed 2 huge catches. Doctson early, Rich later. Jordan Reed cant fumble that ball...poor execution. QB:A. Smith had rarely anytime to throw...when he did, he missed a couple guys running open in the second half. He had happy feet from the rush and never was in rhythm til second half.

D. Cant blame the Running backs this game...they never had any lanes.


Defense:

A: Defense overall all wasn't terrible, but Manusky could have adjusted to Zone coverage on 3rd down defense earlier. Colts ran pick plays in Man coverage which killed the skins. The Hilton TD was a pick play and several first downs first half were picks.

B: Pass rush needs to be better and more consistent.


Looks like Oline and Jay gruden loss this one folks

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If I knew nothing about the game other than Luck's stats, I would have said we smoked them. Worst offensive performance I've seen out of them in a loooong time. I'm not blaming Smith either. He was dinking and dunking because that's ALL that was available. If we picked them apart early with that, we might have won. I blame the offensive line, plain and simple. For having a "top five line" we got absolutely worked against nobody.

All this being said, I expect us to compete with the Packers this weekend because... Redskins.

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Here's a concerning stat for you..

Ryan Kerrigan after 2 games..

0 Sacks, O hits on the QB. 1 Tackle. Yes 1 tackle.

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The Gruden era: We fall behind early. We abandon the run. We cannot pass protect very well or consistently so our qb has no time to throw or go through hus progressions. Our opponents defense just has to defend the pass, making it easier for them. Sound familiar?
There is more, the opponents defense can key on the short passing because we cannot give our QB time to throw. We make it so easy for defenses to beat us.

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Hogs 2.0? Ok.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1200580]Here's a concerning stat for you..

Ryan Kerrigan after 2 games..

0 Sacks, O hits on the QB. 1 Tackle. Yes 1 tackle.[/quote]

If Kerrigan is over the hill we've got nothing at OLB.

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[quote=Defensewins;1200582]The Gruden era: We fall behind early. We abandon the run. We cannot pass protect very well or consistently so our qb has no time to throw or go through hus progressions. Our opponents defense just has to defend the pass, making it easier for them. Sound familiar?
There is more, the opponents defense can key on the short passing because we cannot give our QB time to throw. We make it so easy for defenses to beat us.[/quote]

My problem is this, say we want to move on from Jay Gruden, Do you have any faith in Dan and Bruce to make a competent decision at HC? I don't. This organization has a terrible reputation and attracted talent to come here is much tougher than other places.

Kyle Shanny...and McVay...2 young, up and coming HC. We couldn't recognize it and let them walk. In fact, Dan Snyder and Kyle Shanny hated each other, so its that inability as a organization to even operate as a professional organization.

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Offense was pretty terrible, simple as that. It must be one of worst Oline performance I have ever seen, and our running game was nonexistent. WRs and TEs didn't make plays when they got the chance, even though they got only few chances. I am aware that Alex has tendacy of throwing balls to RBs but, dang when we have little time and 2-3 scores behind, he must at least try throw some deep balls. I was hoping he would just throw ball up and let Doctson fight for it. I am really disappointed how Redskins offense came into the game with no energy.

Defense had terrible start but eventually started to gel later in the game although, pass rush was limited. Little to no pressure from Kerrigan and Smith... Norman didn't play well, he need to do more if he wants to continue earning the money. Not all is bad though, Foster, Swearinger, and Dunbar had good game!

We must do much better if we want to win the game against Green Bay.

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[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/17/washington-home-opener-played-in-front-of-20000-empty-seats/[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1200580]Here's a concerning stat for you..

Ryan Kerrigan after 2 games..

0 Sacks, O hits on the QB. 1 Tackle. Yes 1 tackle.[/quote]

No question he has to get it going... meanwhile Galette is sitting out there begging for a job, I'd get him in here on a vet min deal pronto. What's there to lose??

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1200587][url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/17/washington-home-opener-played-in-front-of-20000-empty-seats/[/url][/quote]

Dan Snyder folks, he killed this franchise

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1200578][B]If I knew nothing about the game other than Luck's stats, I would have said we smoked them[/B]. Worst offensive performance I've seen out of them in a loooong time. I'm not blaming Smith either. He was dinking and dunking because that's ALL that was available. If we picked them apart early with that, we might have won. I blame the offensive line, plain and simple. For having a "top five line" we got absolutely worked against nobody.

All this being said, I expect us to compete with the Packers this weekend because... Redskins.[/quote]

This! 179yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs isn't bad against a healthy Luck. Plus we allowed 3.7 yards per rush ! And that includes the first drive of the game, wonder what this number is after that first drive.

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The D played well enough to win if we only had an average day offensively. Instead it was a disaster.

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Jay's game plan gets me so fucking mad. Last week we run a lot of 2-3 TE sets, pistol, screens, and had the defense stretched out, having them run sideline to sideline...Not vertical.

The Colts run a similar 4-3 look as the Cards....so why not work the same concepts? its baffling how poorly coached this team is sometimes.

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[quote=Chico23231;1200585]My problem is this, say we want to move on from Jay Gruden, Do you have any faith in Dan and Bruce to make a competent decision at HC? I don't. This organization has a terrible reputation and attracted talent to come here is much tougher than other places.

[B]Kyle Shanny...and McVay...2 young, up and coming HC. We couldn't recognize it and let them walk. In fact, Dan Snyder and Kyle Shanny hated each other, so its that inability as a organization to even operate as a professional organization.[/quote]
[/B]

McVay has a true stud at RB, a recent #1 overall draft pick at QB, a dominant DT, to be fair he had some nice pieces to start with. Plus we could not just fire Jay and give the team to McVay. But McVay already proved to be smarter than Gruden. He didn't care about his ego and hired the best DC he could.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1200587][url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/09/17/washington-home-opener-played-in-front-of-20000-empty-seats/[/url][/quote]



Wait until next week. It will be a home game for the Packers.

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Ok, I didn't even look at this til now. What a TERRIBLE game. How to kick the fan faithfuls in the ass/balls/face and everywhere else.

I will go back to never predicting we will shut down an opponent, and I will never begin another gameday thread.

ugh.

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1st sign they might be done with Doctson?

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not that Perriman is any better...

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1200597]1st sign they might be done with Doctson?

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not that Perriman is any better...[/quote]

Dez is next I'd imagine. This was a huge weakness , I know they signed PR but he's just not that good. We are desperate for a WR

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[quote=Chico23231;1200589]Dan Snyder folks, he killed this franchise[/quote]

Agree 100%. It all starts at the top. Successful organizations aren't run by owners like DS.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1200597]1st sign they might be done with Doctson?

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Former Ravens' first-round pick Breshad Perriman is working out today for the Washington Redskins, per source.

not that Perriman is any better...[/quote]

I'd say maybe they're worried about someone like Mo Harris

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here is the opening line from PFF:

Presented with a favorable matchup against a backup left tackle, Preston Smith failed to deliver for the Washington pass-rush with his only noteworthy play coming on a quick hit after beating Le’Raven Clark in the third quarter.

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LOL@ this play calling.

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