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Washington Redskins: Mason Foster has been the first defender to the ball carrier on 17 of his snaps. He’s the only defender with at least 15 ‘first contacts’ who has not yet missed a tackle.

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[quote=#56fanatic;1200817]I think we are playing them (packers) at a pretty good time. we are relatively healthy and they aren't. Rogers not being as mobile is a big plus for us. But, given how Green Bay runs crossing routes out the ass, and we can't seem to figure that out - Adams and Cobb could have a big day. and they dont need to run the ball - they run those little quick outs and dump offs as their run game.
Offensively - We need to run the damn ball. Gruden can't freaking panic (as he always does) if we are down a couple scores. Feed AP and Perine. Make them pull the safeties up - because I can be certain that every team will see what the colts did and try to use that[/quote]

We need to bring big time pressure up the middle on Rogers too. He cant move laterally outside and kill you like he's so well known for doing. This aspect of his injury really limits his game.

we should be bringing A gap, over center pressure a ton...even delayed blitz. Brown and Foster...one or both should be creeping up. If we do that, and he just swings it outside to the WRs, I have faith Norman and Dunbar can match up and make the tackle on this quick throws.

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I just want see smart disciplined football. Even if we lose in a close game, if we play good sound football it will be something to build on. Let see some coaching actually make a difference on the field. That is all I ask.

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A22 Footage wasn't that bad on D, Swearinger has improved in pass coverage as has ZB. The offense was atrocious, we got manhandled by the colts Dline, very concerning. TW with unusual penalties, MM got beat left and right. Complete 180 from the AZ game

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1200821]A22 Footage wasn't that bad on D, Swearinger has improved in pass coverage[B] as has ZB[/B]. The offense was atrocious, we got manhandled by the colts Dline, very concerning. TW with unusual penalties, MM got beat left and right. Complete 180 from the AZ game[/quote]

Agreed, ILB coverage has improved tremendously. And Foster has been on fire so far!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1200821]A22 Footage wasn't that bad on D, Swearinger has improved in pass coverage as has ZB. The offense was atrocious, [I][B][B]we got manhandled by the colts Dline[/B][/B][/I], very concerning. TW with unusual penalties, MM got beat left and right. Complete 180 from the AZ game[/quote]

So I thought this too, but were we physically manhandled or could we just not deal with the stunts? For me, I would imagine a lot of this is on Roullier and his communication at the snap. I mean obviously the Colts defensive line is a bunch of nobodies and I can't imagine them wrecking shop with a couple of Pro Bowlers on there.

The Cardinals had a damn good defensive line and we seemed to roll over it. Wondering if it was a blocking scheme issue more than a personnel issue.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1200824]So I thought this too, but were we physically manhandled or could we just not deal with the stunts? For me, I would imagine a lot of this is on Roullier and his communication at the snap. I mean obviously the Colts defensive line is a bunch of nobodies and I can't imagine them wrecking shop with a couple of Pro Bowlers on there.

The Cardinals had a damn good defensive line and we seemed to roll over it. Wondering if it was a blocking scheme issue more than a personnel issue.[/quote]

The week before the Bengals had zero problem running against the Colts...Avg like 5.0 per carry.

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[quote=MTK;1200787]Rodgers with limited mobility can definitely work in our favor, we need the pass rush to wake up this week[/quote]

wait, we have a pass rush ?

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[quote=Chico23231;1200825]The week before the Bengals had zero problem running against the Colts...Avg like 5.0 per carry.[/quote]

I'm still perplexed. Our offensive line looked like the best line in the league week one, and then week two, got pushed around. Silverback didn't look like an all-pro at all. Our running backs couldn't do anything, we couldn't get a pass rush, etc...

To me, it was as if the team was completely unprepared.

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Was just listening to Doug Williams on the Doc Walker show. In not so many words his biggest concern was getting to the bye without collecting any more injuries, then making a "stretch run." The doesn't inspire me with confidence in beating Green Bay. Green Bay 31 Redskins 24.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1200830]Was just listening to Doug Williams on the Doc Walker show. In not so many words his biggest concern was getting to the bye without collecting any more injuries, then making a "stretch run." The doesn't inspire me with confidence in beating Green Bay. Green Bay 31 Redskins 24.[/quote]

WTF!
I'll have listen to the replay.

What a bunch of chicken shit bitches!

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This is the most winnable game out of our next 3.
We need to go in ready to ball or we could easily go 1-4.

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[quote=jamf;1200833]This is the most winnable game out of our next 3.
We need to go in ready to ball or we could easily go 1-4.[/quote]

If the 'skins go 1-4, I seriously start to doubt if Gruden makes it to the end of the season. There would have to be a mighty turnaround for him to keep his job at that point.

Then again, the 'skins beat the Packers this weekend and suddenly everything is alright in the world.

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Aaron Rodgers is already pissed because they tied with the Vikes,I say he takes it out on us-41-27.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1200830]Was just listening to Doug Williams on the Doc Walker show. In not so many words his biggest concern was getting to the bye without collecting any more injuries, then making a "stretch run." The doesn't inspire me with confidence in beating Green Bay. Green Bay 31 Redskins 24.[/quote]

Basically the GM just picked the Pack to win. Great

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[quote=jamf;1200833]This is the most winnable game out of our next 3.
We need to go in ready to ball or we could easily go 1-4.[/quote]

Saints are 1-1 and barely beat Cle at home, they aren't as good as last yr. Carolina has a very avg offense, and dallas does too. All winnable

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1200824]So I thought this too, but were we physically manhandled [B]or could we just not deal with the stunts? [/B]For me, I would imagine a lot of this is on Roullier and his communication at the snap. I mean obviously the Colts defensive line is a bunch of nobodies and I can't imagine them wrecking shop with a couple of Pro Bowlers on there.

The Cardinals had a damn good defensive line and we seemed to roll over it. Wondering if it was a blocking scheme issue more than a personnel issue.[/quote]

Agreed, they didn't pass stunts well at all. Not sure how much of it is on Roullier though, veterans Olinemen should be able to pass a stunt, shouldn't they?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1200837]Basically the GM just picked the Pack to win. Great[/QUOTE]


You guys are hilarious, yes Williams has basically bet his house the Skins will lose. I totally see how you’re getting that from his comments.

Injuries are starting to creep up, he’s just looking big picture in wanting to get to the bye and heal up.

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we better not come out flat

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1200841]Agreed, they didn't pass stunts well at all. Not sure how much of it is on Roullier though, veterans Olinemen should be able to pass a stunt, shouldn't they?[/QUOTE]


I have zero idea why they couldn’t handle that stuff, it’s O-line 101.

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[quote=MTK;1200842]You guys are hilarious, yes Williams has basically bet his house the Skins will lose. I totally see how you’re getting that from his comments.

Injuries are starting to creep up, he’s just looking big picture in wanting to get to the bye and heal up.[/quote]

Are you calling Fake News? :)


Everyone if you took the under with Lauvao at 3 games before injured collect you winning at the window.

Def the worst move of the offseason, not addressing the giant red flag on the roster.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1200840]Saints are 1-1 and barely beat Cle at home, they aren't as good as last yr. Carolina has a very avg offense, and dallas does too. All winnable[/quote]

I hope you are right but if those teams played the colts, I would pick them to all beat the colts.
Colts whopped our ass.

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[quote=Chico23231;1200845]Are you calling Fake News? :)


Everyone if you took the under with Lauvao at 3 games before injured collect you winning at the window.

Def the worst move of the offseason, not addressing the giant red flag on the roster.[/quote]

Incompetence.

This front office and coaching staff went into the season hoping for a miracle with Lauvao.
once a player starts breaking down, they don't ever get back to their prime.
I don't know what they expected from Shawn but they fucked up.

He hasn't played 2 full games and already needs a bye week.

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[quote=MTK;1200844]I have zero idea why they couldn’t handle that stuff, it’s O-line 101.[/quote]

I remember a game last year we had trouble with stunts, Cousins went on a long explanation in press conference about how they were brining "ETs and TEs", Cooley and Kevin [SIZE="1"](so sad they ended their show)[/SIZE] made fun of him for that a little bit...

Don't know who to fault for having that same issue again, but that's ridiculous.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1200848]I remember a game last year we had trouble with stunts, Cousins went on a long explanation in press conference about how they were brining "ETs and TEs", Cooley and Kevin [SIZE="1"](so sad they ended their show)[/SIZE] made fun of him for that a little bit...



Don't know who to fault for having that same issue again, but that's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]


Sheehan is back with a podcast and it’s definitely worth listening to, Cooley may be back in the future, probably depends on his other obligations

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[quote=MTK;1200849]Sheehan is back with a podcast and it’s definitely worth listening to, Cooley may be back in the future, probably depends on his other obligations[/quote]

Didn't know that! Thanks a lot!

[url]https://art19.com/shows/cooley-and-kevin[/url]

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[quote=jamf;1200847][B]Incompetence.[/B]

This front office and coaching staff went into the season [B]hoping for a miracle[/B] with Lauvao.
once a player starts breaking down, they don't ever get back to their prime.
I don't know what they expected from Shawn but they fucked up.

He hasn't played 2 full games and already needs a bye week.[/quote]

You are exactly right. A good organization doesn't keep doing the same things while hoping for better results - they [U]fix[/U] the damn problems.

The very thought that Doug Williams is whining about injuries after two games and hoping to get to our earliest possible Week Four bye without any more is ridiculous. Who are we missing that could keep us from winning? Lauvao? What happened to cause this sad state of affairs after only two games? Did the training staff run out of SpongeBob Squarepants bandaids? This stuff is pathetic.

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Our RBs and WRs are thin, Lauvao is banged up along with Scherff and Williams. I think there’s some reasonable cause for concern. Doug isn’t a whiner.

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Is there a coach in the league now that could lead this current roster to a playoff berth?? I can’t figure if our talent is bad or the coaching is ... one thing for sure the constant the last five years is the head coach !

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[quote=jamf;1200847]Incompetence.

This front office and coaching staff went into the season hoping for a miracle with Lauvao.
once a player starts breaking down, they don't ever get back to their prime.
I don't know what they expected from Shawn but they fucked up.

He hasn't played 2 full games and already needs a bye week.[/quote]

It's seriously pathetic that they thought that Arie, who they already cut and Lauvao would be a suitable solution at LG. Now they're in a big mess and it'ss only the 3rd week of the season.

I don't understand why they just don't experiment w/ Trent at LG. Try it out for a few series.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1200824]So I thought this too, but were we physically manhandled or could we just not deal with the stunts? For me, I would imagine a lot of this is on Roullier and his communication at the snap. I mean obviously the Colts defensive line is a bunch of nobodies and I can't imagine them wrecking shop with a couple of Pro Bowlers on there.

The Cardinals had a damn good defensive line and we seemed to roll over it. Wondering if it was a blocking scheme issue more than a personnel issue.[/QUOTE]I have been wondering the same thing.

This is why Cooley was so valuable.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1200775]This is going to be a tough one. Green Bay should have won last week and Minny got bailed out [B]by a questionable roughing the passer call. [/B]

I just hope that game took a lot out of GB and we can take advantage of that.

My biggest gripe with the team is that they went away from running the ball and trying to control the clock. We don't need quick scores on this game, we need long drives that end with a TD. The best way to beat GB is to keep Rodgers on the bench.[/quote]

What do you mean questionable? The NFL office said it was going to use the hit as an example of what not to do! ;)

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[quote=skinsfan69;1200857]It's seriously pathetic that they thought that Arie, who they already cut and Lauvao would be a suitable solution at LG. Now they're in a big mess and it'ss only the 3rd week of the season.

I don't understand why they just don't experiment w/ Trent at LG. Try it out for a few series.[/quote]

Honestly this probably generates the best starting line. Nsekhe at LT and Trent at LG.

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Sorry but I’m not putting my best lineman at left fucking guard

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[quote=MTK;1200872]Sorry but I’m not putting my best lineman at left fucking guard[/quote]

Seriously, I can't believe this even needs to be said.

In what universe is moving your all pro tackle to left guard the best solution?

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[quote=sevier2;1200878]Seriously, I can't believe this even needs to be said.

In what universe is moving your all pro tackle to left guard the best solution?[/quote]

Our LG situation has been such dogshit for so long, I don't blame people for looking for outside the box solutions, even if I don't happen to agree with this one. Simple solution would be for the team to fix it.

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Over the past 20 years I feel the Oline has had the biggest swings from good to bad off any unit. Like, our d line for example has never been better than good. Our oline has at times been top and at other bottom 5.

Anyways, I say this because the during times they've been good, I've always noticed that if they had an injury it didn't drastically effect the play of the unit as a whole. Guys like Tony Bergstrom have come in and looked like competant backups and had good games. Sometimes this is when we'd find our future starters. I think everyone needs to chill. Last year the whole line was injured, that hasn't happened yet, and hopefully won't, and maybe the line will be ok.

Last week looked bad and there's no excuse, but honestly, if any unit on this team is likely to fix their problems and get right I think it's the oline.

I do agree, I am very confused about their plan at LG. It did seem they should have been able to find better competition, but I have a hard time believing that 1 weak player in the oline makes this team unable to function.


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I want this week to be our Defensive front seven coming out party. There is too much talent for it to still look pedestrian. Sooner or later they will look very good, or they better, there's been too much investment there for this team to be successful unless they are.

If that happens, the secondary is good enough if they stay healthy that this is a top 10 D.

This week Josh Norman needs to get his head out of his ass. He was terrible last week. He whiffed on 3 tackles and got beat multiple times too. I'm passed thinking he's an elite corner, but he's a good one, and last week may have been his worst as a Redskin.

Defense gets 5 sacks, multiple tips, and 2 turnovers against a shaky Aaron Rodgers.

Redskins 27 - Packers 21

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[quote=WillH;1200880][B]Over the past 20 years I feel the Oline has had the biggest swings from good to bad off any unit. Like, our d line for example has never been better than good. Our oline has at times been top and at other bottom 5.[/B]

Anyways, I say this because the during times they've been good, I've always noticed that if they had an injury it didn't drastically effect the play of the unit as a whole. Guys like Tony Bergstrom have come in and looked like competant backups and had good games. Sometimes this is when we'd find our future starters. I think everyone needs to chill. Last year the whole line was injured, that hasn't happened yet, and hopefully won't, and maybe the line will be ok.

Last week looked bad and there's no excuse, but honestly, if any unit on this team is likely to fix their problems and get right I think it's the oline.

I do agree, I am very confused about their plan at LG. It did seem they should have been able to find better competition, but I have a hard time believing that 1 weak player in the oline makes this team unable to function.


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re: the bolded, I'm concerned that preparedness has something to do with that. I don't think Jay's the best tactician in the game. My patience with him is extremely thin; he either needs to post a winning season or hit the road. Nobody should be allowed to stay mediocre for this long in the NFL.

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I don't see many sacks this week, Rodgers is great at quick releases.. RK and PS have been awful so far, especially Kerrigan. He looks injured or something on tape, has no fire off the ball at all.