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remember....Dallas defensive scheme, we've already faced a similar one versus Indy. Dallas front 7 much better than Indy.

Jay better be ready and come out with a different approach.

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[quote=Chico23231;1203325]remember....Dallas defensive scheme, we've already faced a similar one versus Indy. Dallas front 7 much better than Indy.

Jay better be ready and come out with a [B]different approach[/B].[/quote]

:lol:

Look, "Jay" and "different approach" in the same sentence! That's the football equivalent of seeing a UFO.

You're on a roll, Chico. Tell us the one about halftime adjustments, :laughing2

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[quote=Chico23231;1203325]remember....Dallas defensive scheme, we've already faced a similar one versus Indy. Dallas front 7 much better than Indy.

Jay better be ready and come out with a different approach.[/quote]

This is what makes me nervous as hell. We knew the Saints ran a similar one and we all saw what happened there. Basically Jay is 0 for 2 on game plans against that kind of defense.

I have all the faith in the world we can stop Elliott with our improved front seven. We just need to score some points. Prescott truly is not a good QB and if we make them one dimensional I think we can tee off on him.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1203327]This is what makes me nervous as hell. We knew the Saints ran a similar one and we all saw what happened there. Basically Jay is 0 for 2 on game plans against that kind of defense.

I have all the faith in the world we can stop Elliott with our improved front seven. We just need to score some points. [B]Prescott truly is not a good QB [/B]and if we make them one dimensional I think we can tee off on him.[/quote]

Alex Smith has been borderline garbage his last 2 games outside 1 quarter. Jay and Alex should be growing together, with the passing game taking steps...why isn't this happening? New Orleans was among the leagues worst pass defenses and Carolina lacks significant playmakers in the secondary.

Dallas is here and the Achilles heel of the defense is the versus the passing game...can Jay and Alex flip the switch this week?

This time we face one of the god fathers of the Tampa 2. So expect it to be tuned up and ready to go.

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It may be a long day for our 0line. We're going to have to get some turnovers and keep noodle arm out of 3rd and 5 or longer. And what has happened to Reed?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1203329]It may be a long day for our 0line. We're going to have to get some turnovers and keep noodle arm out of 3rd and 5 or longer. And what has happened to Reed?[/quote]

Reed had a solid game last week...no big plays, but solid.

CT and Reed on the field at the same time is probably our most dangerous sets...why? They make the defense chose between the 2 in coverage...and 99% of time its not a CB. We saw one game where the defense (Green Bay I believe) chose to put CB on Reed...that opened up receivers and Alex recognized it.

Flooding the Dallas zones with Reed and CT would be a good strategy...Trips...pressuring Safeties with 3 deep routes....Jay needs to coach this week.

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Good read:

[url]http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/37409/jay-gruden-trying-to-get-handle-on-roller-coaster-redskins[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1203330]Reed had a solid game last week...no big plays, but solid.

CT and Reed on the field at the same time is probably our most dangerous sets...why? They make the defense chose between the 2 in coverage...and 99% of time its not a CB. We saw one game where the defense (Green Bay I believe) chose to put CB on Reed...that opened up receivers and Alex recognized it.

Flooding the Dallas zones with Reed and CT would be a good strategy...Trips...pressuring Safeties with 3 deep routes....Jay needs to coach this week.[/quote]

I agree but it's our only strategy.
The game plan against us is to play zone and force us to have 10-15 play drives.

This team is #2 in the league for time of possession and AVG number of plays per drive but they are dead last in total number of drives.

We need to find a way to hit some home runs and hold teams to 3 and outs.

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Cooley sat with AP in his 3rd podcast episode, and they said Jay has been hard on the team after the Saints loss, Peterson said he liked that Jay was "100% on them", about the mistakes they made.

What is the name of his new podcast I can't find it anywhere, only Kevin Sheehans.

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[quote=jamf;1203337]I agree but it's our only strategy.
The game plan against us is to play zone and force us to have 10-15 play drives.

This team is #2 in the league for time of possession and AVG number of plays per drive but they are dead last in total number of drives.

We need to find a way to hit some home runs and hold teams to 3 and outs.[/quote]

Tape has said big play opportunities have been available but Alex not seeing or throwing. I thought Alex was the best deep ball passer last year? Wtf is going on?

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[quote=ghutcheson7;1203339]Cooley sat with AP in his 3rd podcast episode, and they said Jay has been hard on the team after the Saints loss, Peterson said he liked that Jay was "100% on them", about the mistakes they made.

What is the name of his new podcast I can't find it anywhere, only Kevin Sheehans.[/quote]

[url]https://www.redskins.com/audio/cooley-at-the-park-episode-5[/url]

Episode 3.

And guess what... Cooley and Kevin are [SIZE="1"](kinda) [/SIZE]back !!!:

[url]https://www.redskins.com/audio/cooley-at-the-park-episode-4[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1203340]Tape has said big play opportunities have been available but Alex not seeing or throwing. I thought Alex was the best deep ball passer last year? Wtf is going on?[/quote]

Alex is still learning..

[url]http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/37419/alex-smith-and-redskins-receivers-still-not-quite-in-sync[/url]

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[quote=GridIron26;1203342]Alex is still learning..

[url]http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/37419/alex-smith-and-redskins-receivers-still-not-quite-in-sync[/url][/quote]


I think I saw him connecting more this past week, he seemed more comfortable than he has. Hopefully that's true. This week will be another good test

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1203343]I think I saw him connecting more this past week, he seemed more comfortable than he has. Hopefully that's true. This week will be another good test[/quote]

I agree.. Also, I think the injuries are not helping Alex. Doctson missed some time in training camp, Reed didn't participate at all until beginning of the season, Richardson has been missing some practice time since he got injured. It's tough for QB to build rapport with receivers if they don't get to practice together enough..

I'm not saying that Alex is completely innocent of this - he is a veteran pro and he should have done better in recent games but I'm not going to hold this against him (at least, not for now).

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[quote=GridIron26;1203344]I agree.. Also, I think the injuries are not helping Alex. Doctson missed some time in training camp, Reed didn't participate at all until beginning of the season, Richardson has been missing some practice time since he got injured. It's tough for QB to build rapport with receivers if they don't get to practice together enough..

I'm not saying that Alex is completely innocent of this - he is a veteran pro and he should have done better in recent games but I'm not going to hold this against him (at least, not for now).[/quote]

I still put it a lot on Gruden and preseason. Look it's fine if you don't want to play the starters, I get it, but then your team better not look like they aren't on the same page after 5 regular season games. And with a new qb, and so many missed practices, throwing a few live balls every game would have made sense. I like Gruden for a lot of reasons, but I don't think we will ever be a consistent deep playoff team with him.

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This is the most important 3-game stretch in Gruden's career.

We won game one against Carolina, but these next two are just as important.

No point beating Carolina only to lay an egg against Dallas or NYG.

Gruden's head coaching career is hanging by a thread. If he gets canned by Washington he won't get another chance.

You can always go be the OC for your brother in Oakland, but if you want your head coaching career to continue...

NO MORE EGGS!!

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hmmmm… maybe a lot more pass attempts in pre season would have helped.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1203326]:lol:



Look, "Jay" and "different approach" in the same sentence! That's the football equivalent of seeing a UFO.



You're on a roll, Chico. Tell us the one about halftime adjustments, :laughing2[/QUOTE]



And throw in the one about sticking with what is working, oh and brilliant play-calls while your at it.....and if we are really good can we please hear the one about our Red Zone offense firing on all cylinders... [emoji849]

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1203347]This is the most important 3-game stretch in Gruden's career.

We won game one against Carolina, but these next two are just as important.

No point beating Carolina only to lay an egg against Dallas or NYG.

Gruden's head coaching career is hanging by a thread. If he gets canned by Washington he won't get another chance.

You can always go be the OC for your brother in Oakland, but if you want your head coaching career to continue...

NO MORE EGGS!![/quote]

Well said.

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[quote=Chico23231;1203340]Tape has said big play opportunities have been available but Alex not seeing or throwing. I thought Alex was the best deep ball passer last year? [B]Wtf is going on?[/B][/quote]

I think it might be that he took just about 17 snaps in the preseason with the first team offense? While learning a new offense. To me this is another coaching incompetency by Jay.

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Great letter from a great fan:

[url]https://www.facebook.com/redskins/photos/a.10152835920289574/10156965668229574/?type=3[/url]

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I struggle with the Jay Gruden hate. He is highly regarded in the league as a really good coach. He may never be a Bill Parcells or Joe Gibbs, but he is well above average.

Most people will say he turned around a bad situation and added stability. That alone should give him creditability. The bigger question is whether he can take the next step. When I look at the team, I say is it better now than when he arrived. The answer is "Yes".

I also know the grass is greener on the other side, but I do not understand all the baby shanny love. I am sorry but he has not done shit yet. He may turn out to be a great coach, but so may Jay.


Just my thoughts.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1203359]I struggle with the Jay Gruden hate. He is highly regarded in the league as a really good coach. He may never be a Bill Parcells or Joe Gibbs, but he is well above average.

Most people will say he turned around a bad situation and added stability. That alone should give him creditability. The bigger question is whether he can take the next step. When I look at the team, I say is it better now than when he arrived. The answer is "Yes".

I also know the grass is greener on the other side, but I do not understand all the baby shanny love. I am sorry but he has not done shit yet. He may turn out to be a great coach, but so may Jay.


Just my thoughts.[/quote]
For my part, it's not Shanny (or baby Shanny) love - maybe a little McVay remorse. But generally, it's the fact that while he brought stability, he also brought very noticeable concerns. The chief of which is the team's frequent lackluster performance on the big stage. Second is questionable calls ala Andy Reid. If he wins the division and/or playoff games, then maybe he is learning as a coach. That is possible. But if we continue to be a middle of the road team, then his position at least needs to be looked at.

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The preseason snaps talk drives me a little nutty. Would Smith be noticeably better if he had twice the work? Three times? What’s the magic number? I still maintain that he got more quality work in practice vs a preseason opponent playing basic schemes with backups.

The Rams pretty much sat their guys all August and it had zero impact. No they didn’t have a new QB but they had plenty of new faces around Goff.

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[quote=MTK;1203362]The preseason snaps talk drives me a little nutty. Would Smith be noticeably better if he had twice the work? Three times? What’s the magic number? I still maintain that he got more quality work in practice vs a preseason opponent playing basic schemes with backups.

The Rams pretty much sat their guys all August and it had zero impact. No they didn’t have a new QB but they had plenty of new faces around Goff.[/quote]

It may not have made any difference, it may have. The only thing hindsight tells us is that the offense was not properly prepared for the regular season. And under Gruden, I think that has been the case every year.

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[quote=MTK;1203362]The preseason snaps talk drives me a little nutty. Would Smith be noticeably better if he had twice the work? Three times? What’s the magic number? I still maintain that he got more quality work in practice vs a preseason opponent playing basic schemes with backups.

The Rams pretty much sat their guys all August and it had zero impact. No they didn’t have a new QB but they had plenty of new faces around Goff.[/quote]

I agree.

I think fans want something to point at and say, "That's the reason they're not playing well right there!" when the truth is there are a lot more factors that go into it.

I'm not really sure why the offense isn't clicking so well right now but I accept that. Hopefully it gets better but playing more in the pre-season would not have helped as much as people like to believe.

What would have happened if A. Smith go thurt in the pre-season? We'd be hearing the exact opposite calls such as, "Why are the starters in so long anyways??"

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Its' the life of an NFL head coach.

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Remember when Jay said "Alex Smith came here to win now?"

The excuses for Alex Smith not preforming are aggravating to me. 1/3 of the season is gone folks...Jay and Alex should be clicking and we should see growth each week. Instead the passing game seems to be stalled.

Enough with the excuses for Alex Smith and Jay Gruden.

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I disagree and I think it is unfair. Reality is it takes time to find the rhythm of a passing game. To think different, it silly.

I am just as frustrated as anyone but I am also excited. We are 3 - 2 with a struggling passing game that should get better as the weeks pass.

I may change my mind if we go out there and pee down our leg vs Dallas.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1203359]I struggle with the Jay Gruden hate. He is highly regarded in the league as a really good coach. He may never be a Bill Parcells or Joe Gibbs, but he is well above average.
[/quote]

Well above average is a stretch.
He is a .500 coach that coaches scared and is too soft on his players.
He's also inherited a ProBowl QB and Superstar LT and still couldn't get us to 10 wins in any season.

Norv Turner started out with Shuler/Frerotte at QB and retiring Jim Lachey at LT. He got us within a bad snap of the NFC Championship game with Brad Johnson at QB. I'd take Norv over Gruden.

No, He isn't a well above average coach.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1203367]I disagree and[B] I think it is unfair[/B]. Reality is it takes time to find the rhythm of a passing game. To think different, it silly.

I am just as frustrated as anyone but I am also excited. We are 3 - 2 with a struggling passing game that should get better as the weeks pass.

I may change my mind if we go out there and pee down our leg vs Dallas.[/quote]

You can disagree which is fine, but "unfair" is straight up bullshit. We have more than adequate weapons...from what Im told the roster has double digits wins talent...we been ok with injuries...schedule has been fine...we are in a weak ass division...we have continuity with coaching staff...and most relevant, Alex Smith is a proven Vet.

Smith hasn't played to the trade or the contract...Adrian Peterson has been the difference maker NOT Smith. I see 2 back to back bad performances and Jay Gruden flat out said yesterday, Alex is holding the ball too long.

I need to see Alex Smith come out and perform at a high level this week. We paid him to win big games like New Orleans (oh buzzsaw, trap game...) on a big stage...but most importantly we paid Smith to win divisional games like Dallas at home.

Coaches and the Front office chose Alex over Cousins...I need to see why. I need to see it now.

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KC was gone long before AS was chosen. AS was chosen over Rosen, Jackson, Keenum, Bridgewater, Bradford.

there was no amount of money keeping KC here, he's even said he took less from the vikings then the jets offered, and he had 0 loyalty to the skins (for right or wrong that's just what it was in january this year).

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The biggest thing Smith is giving us right now vs Cousins, and this shouldn't be understated... [B]Smith has 3 turnovers on the year and Cousins has 8[/B]. That's huge folks. You can win a lot of games in this league running the ball, playing good defense, and winning the turnover battle.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1203371]KC was gone long before AS was chosen. AS was chosen over Rosen, Jackson, Keenum, Bridgewater, Bradford.

there was no amount of money keeping KC here, he's even said he took less from the vikings then the jets offered, and he had 0 loyalty to the skins (for right or wrong that's just what it was in january this year).[/quote]

agree and that's that fair...but that choice to trade and 77 million guaranteed over 4 years is not chump change. Alex Smith needs to play better.

I have every right to skeptical, Bruce and Danny QB decisions lay the foundation.

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[quote=MTK;1203372]The biggest thing Smith is giving us right now vs Cousins, and this shouldn't be understated... [B]Smith has 3 turnovers on the year and Cousins has 8[/B]. That's huge folks. You can win a lot of games in this league running the ball, playing good defense, and winning the turnover battle.[/quote]

that's big time for sure

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We're 3-2. The Saints game sucked because we got whooped, but if I had to pick 1 of our 1st 5 games we were losing, regardless of score, that was it.

The Colts loss stings, and it looks worse and worse each week. We needed that one.

But if we beat Dallas, there is no way I'll complain about 4-2. We're due to beat those fuckdicks. Win!!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1203375]We're 3-2. The Saints game sucked because we got whooped, but if I had to pick 1 of our 1st 5 games we were losing, regardless of score, that was it.

The Colts loss stings, and it looks worse and worse each week. We needed that one.

But if we beat Dallas, there is no way I'll complain about 4-2. We're due to beat those fuckdicks. Win!![/quote]

Think of it this way, before the season most would have predicted we'd beat Indy but lose to Carolina. You're always going to win some you don't expect, and lose some you don't expect. In the end you just hope to even those out.

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[quote=MTK;1203372]The biggest thing Smith is giving us right now vs Cousins, and this shouldn't be understated... [B]Smith has 3 turnovers on the year and Cousins has 8[/B]. That's huge folks. You can win a lot of games in this league running the ball, playing good defense, and winning the turnover battle.[/quote]

Still early, but I'd still give the edge to KC at this point. True that AS has only lost 1 fumble. But he has put the ball on the ground 5 times lost 1. KC has put it on the ground 6 times, lost 5. That is just the luck of the bounce.

KC has 3 INTs. Smith has 2. But I still take into account that KC has 89 more attempts on the year than AS. Even though KC is in the top half of the NFL in yards and rating. AS is in the bottom third. But stat wise, they are pretty damn close to one another

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;1203379]Still early, but I'd still give the edge to KC at this point. True that AS has only lost 1 fumble. But he has put the ball on the ground 5 times lost 1. KC has put it on the ground 6 times, lost 5. That is just the luck of the bounce.

KC has 3 INTs. Smith has 2. But I still take into account that KC has 89 more attempts on the year than AS. Even though KC is in the top half of the NFL in yards and rating. AS is in the bottom third. But stat wise, they are pretty damn close to one another[/QUOTE]KCs fumbles lost 1 game for sure, he also had two game losing ints overturned by phantom penalty hits.

Its not all stats, it is where the team stands at the end of the season.

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One can spin the stats anyway they want, bottom line is KC turns it over considerably more than Smith. It's not even close.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1203359]I struggle with the Jay Gruden hate. He is highly regarded in the league as a really good coach. He may never be a Bill Parcells or Joe Gibbs, but [B]he is well above average[/B].

Most people will say he turned around a bad situation and added stability. That alone should give him creditability. [B]The bigger question is whether he can take the next step.[/B] When I look at the team, I say is it better now than when he arrived. The answer is "Yes".

I also know the grass is greener on the other side, but I do not understand all the baby shanny love. I am sorry but he has not done shit yet. He may turn out to be a great coach, but so may Jay.


Just my thoughts.[/quote]

Well above average is not what his W-L record says. It says he is the epitome of average. His contract is up after this season. Why would an owner with any championship ambitions want to re-hire a coach with a thoroughly average W-L history?

After 5 years of trying and failing to build a consistent winner, there is no next step for him to take. Time is up! He will either win this season or he'll be fired.