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What I find crazy is only 2 qb’s were on team .. at least have a practice squad QB or something.. damn bad decision! I can think of several players that are in this roster that don’t warrant the position as much as third qb would.. bet next year they carry three..

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I don’t blame them for carrying 2 QB’s, plenty of teams do it. It’s tough to have 3 QB’s when one is going to be inactive each week. Nobody can plan for having your top 2 QBs breaking their legs.



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[QUOTE=MTK;1212356]I don’t blame them for carrying 2 QB’s, plenty of teams do it. It’s tough to have 3 QB’s when one is going to be inactive each week. Nobody can plan for having your top 2 QBs breaking their legs.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I agree but when bringing in Sanchez you have to wonder if they even thought about bringing in a qb off of another team's practice squad, like you said 2 qbs with broken lega in 2 weeks is unheard of.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1212296]My family wants out as well. I live in the PHILLY area, I’m about done with this trash. 25 years of total garbage. Time to follow the Eagles. A well run organization, with passionate fans, and a winning tradition over the last many years. Sorry guys.


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I didn't say I was going to let my kids out.. But you're getting beat up enough in here so all ill say is you should be a soccer fan before being an Eagles fan

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[QUOTE=ForkLifter;1212370]I didn't say I was going to let my kids out.. But you're getting beat up enough in here so all ill say is you should be a soccer fan before being an Eagles fan[/QUOTE]



Haha. Thanks for going easy on me man!


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And the front office lied about possibly signing Kaepernick, fire Allen now!!!!

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Article/Redskins-never-reached-out-to-Kaepernick-126114071/[/url]

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Saying they discussed him is much different than saying they talked to him or reached out


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So, do we wake up tomorrow to Allen and Gruden being fired? When we see moves start to happen?


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I think the hottest seat right now is Manusky


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[QUOTE=MTK;1212400]I think the hottest seat right now is Manusky


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I don’t agree. We’ve seen the DCs change, but the results are the same. The common denominators are Allen and Gruden. Also, it was them that picked these coordinators, and passed over people like Wade Phillips. At what point do you hold the decision makers on picking these DCs responsible!!??

The defense was the only bright spot at the start of the year. We’ve seen 3 coordinators. Can’t keep blaming them. This is a bigger problem.


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I’m saying waking up tomorrow what name wouldn’t surprise me to see in the news? Manusky is the easy choice. No major changes with Gruden or Allen are going to be made in season.


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[QUOTE=MTK;1212400]I think the hottest seat right now is Manusky


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I agree, no injuries except Dunbar and awful results.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1212403]I’m saying waking up tomorrow what name wouldn’t surprise me to see in the news? Manusky is the easy choice. No major changes with Gruden or Allen are going to be made in season.


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I know Snyder has a long history of making rash moves, but he has every right to fire Allen and Gruden now. I’m sure most people would completely support him too.


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[QUOTE=MTK;1212403]I’m saying waking up tomorrow what name wouldn’t surprise me to see in the news? Manusky is the easy choice. No major changes with Gruden or Allen are going to be made in season.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I disagree. I think an in season firing only happens if Allen goes. Jay basically said his staff isnt changing and DS wouldn't/shouldn't be hiring or firing assistant coaches. Snyder also has been vocal about not firing coaches midseason, but the last time it got this bad -9 years ago- we did wake up to see VC out on his ass.

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1212405]I know Snyder has a long history of making rash moves, but he has every right to fire Allen and Gruden now. I’m sure most people would completely support him too.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]People make these crazy statements about DS, but in the last 10-15 years please tell me what "rash moves" snyder has made?

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Great article:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/its-time-for-bruce-allen-architect-of-this-redskins-disaster-to-be-shown-door/2018/12/09/1f8790ac-fbf9-11e8-83c0-b06139e540e5_story.html?utm_term=.5c8346df4e78[/url]

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Bruce and Jay are safe until the end of the season.

Bruce will certainly be let go. He’ll go to Oakland and be a puppet “GM” for Jon Gruden.

Snyder will work behind the scenes to try and lure another big name coach here. I doubt he’ll succeed, so I Jay will get another year under the new GM (probably Kyle Smith). If Snyder can lure a big name here (maybe a Harbaugh), then i think Jay lands in Cleveland or perhaps even in Oakland as OC.




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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1212433]Bruce and Jay are safe until the end of the season.

Bruce will certainly be let go. He’ll go to Oakland and be a puppet “GM” for Jon Gruden.

Snyder will work behind the scenes to try and lure another big name coach here. I doubt he’ll succeed, so I Jay will get another year under the new GM (probably Kyle Smith). If Snyder can lure a big name here (maybe a Harbaugh), then i think Jay lands in Cleveland or perhaps even in Oakland as OC.




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I could see this happening


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The Browns are going to keep Gregg Williams, do u see how competitive they are now?? No chance they let Williams walk

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1212453]The Browns are going to keep Gregg Williams, do u see how competitive they are now?? No chance they let Williams walk[/QUOTE]



They could but I don’t think that’s a lock at all



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[quote=MTK;1212459]They could but I don’t think that’s a lock at all



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If they finish with a winning record while he's HC, and don't keep him that would be the most Browns thing ever.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1212428]Great article:

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/its-time-for-bruce-allen-architect-of-this-redskins-disaster-to-be-shown-door/2018/12/09/1f8790ac-fbf9-11e8-83c0-b06139e540e5_story.html?utm_term=.5c8346df4e78[/URL][/quote]


Good read, this team is going be in the dumpster for a long long time. =(

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Bruce Allen should have been fired fuckin 5 years ago along with 3-13 Mike Shanahan.

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I would've kept Shanny and fired Bruce it is clear there was a power struggle there. I would trust Mike's football IQ over Jay. Plus Mike was considered to be a disciplinarian like everyone wants leading the staff right now.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1212461]If they finish with a winning record while he's HC, and don't keep him that would be the most Browns thing ever.[/quote]

Mike McCarthy may be too tempting for them, he has a lot of ties to their FO.

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[quote=MTK;1212498]Mike McCarthy may be too tempting for them, he has a lot of ties to their FO.[/quote]

Also, with a young QB, they are going to want to bring in an offensive minded HC to the mix.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1212501]Also, with a young QB, they are going to want to bring in an offensive minded HC to the mix.[/quote]

Baker said recently he loves GW, U could always bring in a OC with Gregg. I'd love to have him but I wouldn't get my hopes up

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1212504]Baker said recently he loves GW, U could always bring in a OC with Gregg. I'd love to have him but I wouldn't get my hopes up[/quote]

Maybe the Browns will do something right for once. LOL.

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[quote=mredskins;1212464]Good read, this team is going be in the dumpster for a long long time. =([/quote]

They already have been for years, things can change quick tho. It's all about the QB. If u have one u can compete

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1212506]They already have been for years, things can change quick tho. It's all about the QB. If u have one u can compete[/quote]

Or coaching (see the Rams)

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1212402]I don’t agree. We’ve seen the DCs change, but the results are the same. The common denominators are Allen and Gruden. Also, it was them that picked these coordinators, and passed over people like Wade Phillips. At what point do you hold the decision makers on picking these DCs responsible!!??

The defense was the only bright spot at the start of the year. We’ve seen 3 coordinators. Can’t keep blaming them. This is a bigger problem.


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I keep reading that we passed over on Wade Phillips but I was under the impression that he chose the Rams over the Redskins. Did the Redskins actually pass on him?

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[quote=RedskinJake;1212552]I keep reading that we passed over on Wade Phillips but I was under the impression that he chose the Rams over the Redskins. Did the Redskins actually pass on him?[/quote]

Yes we passed over him and went with Barry. We could have had him here, son was on staff.

Yes you read that right, passed on Wade and went with Barry.

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[quote=Chico23231;1212556]Yes we passed over him and went with Barry. We could have had him here, son was on staff.

Yes you read that right, passed on Wade and went with Barry.[/quote]

And then passed on Gus Bradley to go with Manusky.

This 'only hire people you know' stuff is fucking idiotic to me. Honestly I don't understand it. I'm a hiring manager, I cast as wide a net and get the best possible resume I can, I don't care who they are. And I can't understand why it would be any different in football. It's poor leadership by Gruden.

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I lot of people shat on Gus Bradley at the time he was available but his Chargers are currently 6th in points allowed, 8th in yards allowed, 6th in passing yards allowed, and 12th in rushing yards allowed.

Fucking Gruden.

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Interesting:

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/bruce-allen-oakland-why-redskins-executive-could-be-heading-west[/url]

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If George was alive he'd slap the shit out of Bruce then slap him again for shittin. :Smoker:

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Vinny C was on Sheehan's podcast today.

Initially, I wanted to take my vote back on who is a better GM, he or Bruce, because he is the biggest idiot I've ever heard talk football. Often the passage of time softens anger or disappointment.

Then I thought, he had a better record than the Prince of Darkness Bruce.

It really is quite remarkable.

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Vinny's just a dumb guy. I mean who hires a bingo caller to come in during the middle of a football season to call plays? How can you honestly do that and expect to be taken seriously? As terrible as Allen is, he's actually not a dumb guy. He's just a pure 100% brown nosing politician. Every big corporate outfit has a Bruce Allen type. If Dan Snyder asked Bruce to hand wash his underwear Bruce would gladly do it, then hand it back to Snyder folded and pressed with starch. I actually dislike people like Allen more than someone like Vinny.

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Listening to that interview I couldn’t help but think man Vinny is such a boob. Sounded like at one point he was eating... what a clown


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The fact that Dan Snyder first has an ass-clown like Vinny as the "all but in the name" GM shows that what he wants is a butt-kisser, not someone who knows anything about football. The reason he keeps Bruce around is that Allen can talk to the politicians about getting the new stadium that Snyder wants. I actually think that Bruce and Snyder believe that crap about "winning off the field" . Especially when you can't do it on the football field.

What Snyder doesn't realize is that if the Redskins were a winning franchise, ON THE FIELD, the politicians might want to fund the new stadium! Allen doesn't have the GM talent to get them there.