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[quote=Irrefutable;1216500]The 2019 draft is a very mediocre year for QBs, getting a good one at #15 is a long shot. So have a bad year in 2019 ( due to offense ) and get a good one in 2020. Otherwise, there will be eternal mediocrity[/quote]

Gruden’s fighting foor his job,we won’t be tanking and we won’t be bad enough to be in top 10 pick,7-9 or 8-8 I suspect.
It’s too early to know where this years qb class is going to go,last year at this time Baker Mayfield was not thought to be a top 10 pick and I had hope he would be there when the skins pick,but by the time the draft got here everything changed

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1216647]That is a huge stretch by Schefty. AZ just hired Kingsbury to be the 'quarterback whisperer' to Josh Rosen. Doesn't make sense.[/quote]

Kingsbury is a huge Kyler Murray fan...massive.

Kinda of ironic Murray makes a proclamation he's interested in Football when Kingsbury hired with the first pick.

There's a history.

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[quote=Chico23231;1216650]Kingsbury is a huge Kyler Murray fan...massive.

Kinda of ironic Murray makes a proclamation he's interested in Football when Kingsbury hired with the first pick.

There's a history.[/quote]

There was always talk about him trying the NFL but yeah this is looking to be a match making possibility for AZ. As for Rosen, he doesn't fit that system, Kingsbury wants a mobile QB that can help that bad OL some. Rosen is a pocket passer (someone we could actually use) The only thing is , why would the skins trade for Rosen if they don't believe Jay could mold him after 2019?
So I doubt we are even interested

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If we could lock up a young quality QB I would be all for it, plus it could entice a cocky young HC candidate to come work in DC.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1216659]If we could lock up a young quality QB I would be all for it, plus it could entice a cocky young HC candidate to come work in DC.[/quote]

I would seek a trade with SF for Mullens (they might trade him, maybe not) I would offer a 5th, no higher than a 4th.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1216664]I would seek a trade with SF for Mullens (they might trade him, maybe not) I would offer a 5th, no higher than a 4th.[/quote]

I like Mullens but I'd rather have Rosen

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1216665]I like Mullens but I'd rather have Rosen[/quote]

You are going to have give up a lot for Rosen, we have lots of holes to fill and need the picks.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1216667]You are going to have give up a lot for Rosen, we have lots of holes to fill and need the picks.[/quote]

I think the 1st round pick is about it for him, its not like he was Mayfield this yr, he was very avg. He just had no OL at all.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1216669]I think the 1st round pick is about it for him, its not like he was Mayfield this yr, he was very avg. He just had no OL at all.[/quote]

I don’t think AZ just goes for a mid-1st rounder, they’ll want more.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1216670]I don’t think AZ just goes for a mid-1st rounder, they’ll want more.[/quote]

If thats the case then No. I'll stick with what we have and roll the dice on someone else

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1216670]I don’t think AZ just goes for a mid-1st rounder, they’ll want more.[/quote]

Rosen is whiny headache for staff if they draft Murray. That would be a locker room nightmare....and bad cap management with those 2 contracts on the books. I don't think they would hold out for a haul.

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[quote=Chico23231;1216650]Kingsbury is a huge Kyler Murray fan...massive.

Kinda of ironic Murray makes a proclamation he's interested in Football when Kingsbury hired with the first pick.

There's a history.[/quote]

Just saying. Moving on from Rosen after a rookie season is unusual. Rosen was drafted in the first round as the franchise QB. We have all seen more head coaches fired for a coach that is better suited to 'groom' the young franchise QB. Rare is it that a new coach comes in and trades away a first round starter QB after his rookie season. There is 5 years of cheap QB labor there.

I simply cannot envision Kingsbury sitting in his interview with the Cardinals and telling them the first thing he would do is trade Rosen.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1216673]Just saying. Moving on from Rosen after a rookie season is unusual. Rosen was drafted in the first round as the franchise QB. We have all seen more head coaches fired for a coach that is better suited to 'groom' the young franchise QB. Rare is it that a new coach comes in and trades away a first round starter QB after his rookie season. There is 5 years of cheap QB labor there.

I simply cannot envision Kingsbury sitting in his interview with the Cardinals and telling them the first thing he would do is trade Rosen.[/quote]

Recent history proves "If there is smoke , usually there is fire" I think Kingsbury wants Murray and he told the FO the same thing. He may have sold them on the Offense he wants to run and Rosen doesn't fit that. Just speculation but I wouldn't be shocked.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1216674]Recent history proves "If there is smoke , usually there is fire" I think Kingsbury wants Murray and he told the FO the same thing. He may have sold them on the Offense he wants to run and Rosen doesn't fit that. Just speculation but I wouldn't be shocked.[/quote]

Makes sense and I am not disagreeing with anything you are saying. Just odd with the new rookie salary pool and 5th year options on 1st rounders that you trade him after 1 year when Murray has not played a snap as a pro. Just weird.

Just want to add, that we are just now entering the 'silly season' of football where all kinds of rumors and scenarios get thrown at us by the media. Hell, Murray has not declared for the draft yet and people already have Rosen landing in New York and Odell Beckam going to AZ.....

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What happens to Murray's baseball career ?

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[quote=Irrefutable;1216679]What happens to Murray's baseball career ?[/quote]

Kingsbury got hired with the first overall pick in the draft

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1216678]Makes sense and I am not disagreeing with anything you are saying. Just odd with the new rookie salary pool and 5th year options on 1st rounders that you trade him after 1 year when Murray has not played a snap as a pro. Just weird.

Just want to add, that we are just now entering the 'silly season' of football where all kinds of rumors and scenarios get thrown at us by the media. Hell, Murray has not declared for the draft yet and people already have Rosen landing in New York and Odell Beckam going to AZ.....[/quote]

If the Giants trade for Rosen but then let his best weapon go, that would be crazy IMO but again its the NFL

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I don’t see Rosen going anywhere


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1216683]If the Giants trade for Rosen but then let his best weapon go, that would be crazy IMO but again its the NFL[/quote]

Nota big fan of Odell but he isn't going anywhere . The Giant will stay with Eli and either take Fromm or someone else from the class of 2020.


All this shit gets made up by little Madden players and fantasy GM's.

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[quote=Giantone;1216689]Nota big fan of Odell but he isn't going anywhere . The Giant will stay with Eli and either take Fromm or someone else from the class of 2020.


All this shit gets made up by little Madden players and fantasy GM's.[/quote]

All I am saying is with the silly season getting underway, if you Google search for "Josh Rosen Trade", there is already crap out there speculating a trade of Rosen to the Giants for OBJ and the Cardinals drafting Murray.

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Per Ben Albright

"Washington has been (not so) quietly exploring QB options (both for the future and in case Alex Smith is unable to go.

Not sure they're a 1st round candidate for a QB, but day 2 for Grier could be an option.

Also may look at Andy Dalton if he becomes available."

I don't see Grier falling that far but we will see. And no thanks to Dalton

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15: R1 - lb devin white - lsu
46: R2 - s nasir adderley - delaware
76: R3 - g chris lindstrom - boston college
96: R3 - qb ryan finley - nc state
154: R5 - te caleb wilson - ucla
172: R5 - lb khalil hodge - buffalo
207: R6 - wr darius slayton - auburn
229: R7 - edge gerri green - mississippi state

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1217236]15: R1 - lb devin white - lsu
46: R2 - s nasir adderley - delaware
76: R3 - g chris lindstrom - boston college
96: R3 - qb ryan finley - nc state
154: R5 - te caleb wilson - ucla
172: R5 - lb khalil hodge - buffalo
207: R6 - wr darius slayton - auburn
229: R7 - edge gerri green - mississippi state[/quote]

in a WR class as good as this I cant wait til round 6 to get one, love the White pick though

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1217237]in a WR class as good as this I cant wait til round 6 to get one, love the White pick though[/quote]

Yeah its tricky when you have so many needs. We need a WR but we also need those other positions too. On the flip side, the positive is we have no reason not to go BPA each pick because we could use the help everywhere.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1217237]in a WR class as good as this I cant wait til round 6 to get one, love the White pick though[/quote]

I think if White is there its the Jonathan Allen No Brainer pick.

The pass rushers Polite and Josh Allen are highly intriguing there as well.

The WR I like is the kid from NC State, I think he will be a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Marquise Brown is fast as hell and would be tough to pass on in the 2nd round.

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Anthony Johnson WR - Buffalo is a very good all around player and I'd love to take him in the 2nd if we draft QB in the 1st. Time to start building this Offense

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1215042]Any writer who says the redskins should have gone after kaepernick can’t be taken seriously.

Kaep has been out of the league for years and didn’t lose his job because of his political views - he lost it because blaine gabbert was better. Yeah. Blaine gabbert. But the skins should go after him, and put him in an offense unlike any he’s played in before? Josh Johnson’s play demonstrates how important familiarity with a system is at that point in the season.

Never heard of this writer before, but he’s clearly a moron.


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Gabbert better than Kap? Idk about that. You're talking about a guy who took his team to a Super Bowl and was a major contributor to that teams success. Gabbert will never take anyone anywhere.

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All I'll say about Kap is that if he comes back he better learn to be a pocket passer. He was on fire when the read-option was still a thing. I remember the end of that run where people were figuring it out and he wasn't looking so good.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217202]Per Ben Albright

"Washington has been (not so) quietly exploring QB options (both for the future and in case Alex Smith is unable to go.

Not sure they're a 1st round candidate for a QB, but day 2 for Grier could be an option.

Also may look at Andy Dalton if he becomes available."

I don't see Grier falling that far but we will see. And no thanks to Dalton[/quote]

I really hope the Dalton stuff isn't true. No thank you. He is just a stop gap qb that will get us to 7 or 8 wins tops. If Grier is there when we pick and he is bpa on their board ( which doesn't say much) then we have to take Grier and start him day one.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1217267]I really hope the Dalton stuff isn't true. No thank you. He is just a stop gap qb that will get us to 7 or 8 wins tops. If Grier is there when we pick and he is bpa on their board ( which doesn't much) then we have to take Grier and start him day one.[/quote]

I could see Dalton or AJ Mccarron as a stop gap

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There is no way it actually goes this way, but I would be perfectly happy with my mock draft.

15: R1P15 CB GREEDY WILLIAMS LSU
46: R2P14 QB DREW LOCK MISSOURI
76: R3P12 G CONNOR MCGOVERN PENN STATE
96: R3P32 WR RILEY RIDLEY GEORGIA
154: R5P15 LB KHALIL HODGE BUFFALO
172: R5P33 EDGE CARL GRANDERSON WYOMING
207: R6P32 S ANDREW WINGARD WYOMING
229: R7P13 DL ALBERT HUGGINS CLEMSON

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1217283]There is no way it actually goes this way, but I would be perfectly happy with my mock draft.

15: R1P15 CB GREEDY WILLIAMS LSU
46: R2P14 QB DREW LOCK MISSOURI
76: R3P12 G CONNOR MCGOVERN PENN STATE
96: R3P32 WR RILEY RIDLEY GEORGIA
154: R5P15 LB KHALIL HODGE BUFFALO
172: R5P33 EDGE CARL GRANDERSON WYOMING
207: R6P32 S ANDREW WINGARD WYOMING
229: R7P13 DL ALBERT HUGGINS CLEMSON[/quote]

Big Wyoming fan? JK. Yeah that draft would be killer. Sign me up.

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15: R1p15 - lb devin white - lsu
46: R2p14 - wr parris campbell - ohio state
76: R3p12 - g beau benzschawel - wisconsin
96: R3p32 - te josh oliver - san jose state
154: R5p15 - cb mark gilbert - duke
172: R5p33 - s mike bell - fresno state
207: R6p32 - qb easton stick - north dakota state
229: R7p13 - edge gerri green - mississippi state

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Two questions.......

1) Do the Redskins trade up to get a QB ?

2) Do the Skins take best player available (PPA) or do you draft for need ?

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[quote=Giantone;1217888]Two questions.......

1) Do the Redskins trade up to get a QB ?

2) Do the Skins take best player available (PPA) or do you draft for need ?[/quote]

I don't think u trade up for a QB, Grier will most likely be there at 15.

And at 15 BPA is most likely going to be a DL which we don't need so yes draft QB

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I will eat the last Redskin hat I bought without BBQ sauce if Josh Rosen amounts to anything in the NFL.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1217892]I will eat the last Redskin hat I bought without BBQ sauce if Josh Rosen amounts to anything in the NFL.[/quote]

He's going to be a top 15 QB throughout his career, I'd take that

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1st rd. N'Keal Harry (WR Arizona State)

2nd rd. Brett Pypien(QB Boise State)

3rd rd. Dalton Risner ( OL Kansas State)

3rd rd Nasir Adderly (FS/SS Deleware)


5th rd. Anthony Johnson (WR Buffalo)


5th rd. Carl Granderson (Edge rusher Wyoming)

6th round Khalil Hodge( ILB Buffalo)

7th. Rd ?

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Just as I suspected, please don’t reach on suspect QB’s in the 1st round. Get a an impact player on the 1st round, look at Daniel Jones, McSorley, Rypien in the 2nd, 3rd round.

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I’ll still stand my ground that ya take the chance on Finley in the 3rd worse case scenario he gets some snaps this year we have a decent backup to Colt and we draft a franchise QB next year if needed. You can’t leverage the franchise this year with another RG3 move again our needs run too deep. Pick us up best available throughout from positions of need.

Finley is starting QB caliber in the NFL out of the draft if we can grab him in the 3rd we will have a replacement for Colt as a backup for a couple years so we can afford to take a gamble next year for the next Generational QB