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[quote=skinsfaninok;1219824]Landon Collins to Washington

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You got a good guy ,if he can stay healthy he's a beast his coverage skills are lacking but he is a great guy.I think you over paid at 14 million a year!

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Welcome to free agency, the initial signings are typically all overpaid. Nature of the beast.

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[quote=Giantone;1219844]You got a good guy ,if he can stay healthy he's a beast his coverage skills are lacking but he is a great guy.I think you over paid at 14 million a year![/quote]

He'a a box safety, (cover 3 type guy) possibly a 2/4 scheme. He lacks in coverage but is amazing against the run.

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[quote=MTK;1219848]Welcome to free agency, the initial signings are typically all overpaid. Nature of the beast.[/quote]

And the initial reports are inflated (total contract money vs. actual guaranteed money).

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1219850]He'a a box safety, (cover 3 type guy) possibly a 2/4 scheme. He lacks in coverage but is [B]amazing against the run[/B].[/quote]

This is great since we play against Zeke and Barkley two times per year

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[quote=Meks;1219836]$45 M garunteed not really too bad ... Heavily incentive laced deal I guess[/quote]

For a in the box safety? It is real bad. Collins is about as good as Swearinger. I think DJ probably has better cover skills and Collins is better in the box. You just can't pay a guy like Collins that kind of money, especially in a passing league.

I do like that he wants to be here and is a huge fan of #21.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1219837]Dumb. Just plain old dumb. Not worth the money at all. If we were going to pay that amount to a safety then I would have rather paid it to Mathieu. He is probably much more of a complete player and has better open field skills to cover TE's. [B]Our front office seriously has the biggest hard on for Bama players that I have ever seen.[/B][/quote]

At this point, I wonder if it a strategy...Nick Saban is a defensive coach...he lets guys come in and manage the offense which tends to be a run first, run second, and play action big pass play.

A defense with so many Alabama players, is the end game Saban after Jay?

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[quote=Chico23231;1219857]At this point, I wonder if it a strategy...Nick Saban is a defensive coach...he lets guys come in and manage the offense which tends to be a run first, run second, and play action big pass play.

A defense with so many Alabama players, is the end game Saban after Jay?[/quote]

[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/11/louis-riddick-suggests-hes-reached-out-to-nick-saban/"]Future Redskins coach and GM?[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1219860][URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/11/louis-riddick-suggests-hes-reached-out-to-nick-saban/"]Future Redskins coach and GM?[/URL][/quote]

The recent trend of young offensive coach...give me Saban all day over these guys.

Leave O'Connell as OC, Saban HC...and please get our aweful DC outta here. Id take that easily.

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Crowder to jets

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1219866]Crowder to jets

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This hurts.

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[QUOTE=OmahaRedskins;1219870]This hurts.[/QUOTE]At least he didn't sign with a team inside NFC east

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He got paid. 10M a yr

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We over pay for Collins and then have to let Crowder go.

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[QUOTE=OmahaRedskins;1219870]This hurts.[/QUOTE]



What hurts more is watching him muff punts all year. We’ll get another slot. I’m not worried.


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Crowder was awesome...3 years ago. Good for him, but I don't want that contract. Time for Trey Quinn to step up.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1219874]What hurts more is watching him muff punts all year. We’ll get another slot. I’m not worried.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Haha beat me to it. He's a good slot but he's coming off two meh seasons IIRC.

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[quote=MTK;1219860][URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/11/louis-riddick-suggests-hes-reached-out-to-nick-saban/"]Future Redskins coach and GM?[/URL][/quote]

Other than Pete Carroll I can't recall any recent college coaches who have made a difference in the NFL. Bill O'Brien is the other one, but he still hasn't done anything newsworthy. I'm not concerned with Saban's talent evaluating skills, I worry about his coaching style when it's 53 paid professionals vs. young college kids trying to prove themselves. He said it best too, he already tried it once and embarrassed himself.

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Welcome Mr Collins!

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[QUOTE=OmahaRedskins;1219873]We over pay for Collins and then have to let Crowder go.[/QUOTE]



Collins is a playmaker Crowder is not.

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[QUOTE=Rev.SkinsFan;1219833]Love this move!!!!![/QUOTE]



You and me both. He is instant upgrade. Now we can really address the offense in the draft.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1219844]You got a good guy ,if he can stay healthy he's a beast his coverage skills are lacking but he is a great guy.I think you over paid at 14 million a year![/QUOTE]



A good guy? Lol. He is a beast. Your defense was shit without him.

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Someone just hit the kool aid bong

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[quote=GridIron26;1219853]This is great since we play against Zeke and Barkley two times per year[/quote]

I agree the price was too high, but this is a very good point. To win the nfc east, you must stop the run

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1219892]Someone just hit the kool aid bong[/QUOTE]



Landon Collins is awesome and will be an absolute difference maker on a defense that was close to being pretty effin solid last year. At this point though we still have a shit coach and a shit offense so im not hitting the kool aid. I said now we can concentrate on the offensive side of the draft - meaning for the future. Next year is an absolute wash. But our D will be fun to watch.

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[quote=punch it in;1219905]Landon Collins is awesome and will be an absolute difference maker on a defense [B]that was close to being pretty effin solid last year.[/B] At this point though we still have a shit coach and a shit offense so im not hitting the kool aid. I said now we can concentrate on the offensive side of the draft - meaning for the future. Next year is an absolute wash. But our D will be fun to watch.[/quote]

Punch got nothin but mostly respect for you man, but you are high as a fucking kite if you think we were close to being solid last year. The second half we looked like absolute garbage, and there were no injuries that would've made for a convenient excuse.

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Tashaun Gipson could be a cheap option to pair with Collins

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[quote=punch it in;1219905]Landon Collins is awesome and will be an absolute difference maker on a defense that was close to being pretty effin solid last year. At this point though we still have a shit coach and a shit offense so im not hitting the kool aid. I said now we can concentrate on the offensive side of the draft - meaning for the future. Next year is an absolute wash. [B][U]But our D will be fun to watch[/U][/B].[/quote]

While I love defense and would invite a dominating one...I simply don’t see it with this terrible d cord.

Also, look at the offense...no left guard, no tight end blocking...under performing tight ends in general, no qb, a bottom-3 receiver group in the league, etc.

Defense ain’t a worth a shit if its on the field 66% of the time.

With our dimming hopes for competent passing game, you better fucking transform the offense into a ground, possession-based attack.

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I’m hoping we pass on haha now. Rather have someone on the back end who can cover...leave Collins up close to the line where he wins most often.

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[quote=punch it in;1219890]A good guy? Lol. He is a beast. Your defense was shit without him.[/quote]

LOL, our defense was shit with him.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1219910]Punch got nothin but mostly respect for you man, but you are high as a fucking kite if you think we were close to being solid last year. The second half we looked like absolute garbage, and there were no injuries that would've made for a convenient excuse.[/QUOTE]



There were a couple key injuries on D, but I think as the year wore on and our D was on the field for massive amounts of time and our chances were fading that they finally were deflated and defeated. This could happen again.
Our DC is a joke too.
Still we showed flashes last year of being a real good unit on that side, and Collins is a big time upgrade.

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A good link for CAP info..................


[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/cap/[/url]

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I was hoping to land CJ Mosley too but that money the Jets gave him is steep

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Z Brown , Stacy Mcgee cut

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/13/zach-brown-also-on-his-way-out-of-washington/[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1219860][URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/11/louis-riddick-suggests-hes-reached-out-to-nick-saban/"]Future Redskins coach and GM?[/URL][/quote]

He's not a good fit here. They already tried a hard ass coach w/ Marty and that lasted one year. Saban is just too much of a control freak. Too much my way or the highway. That way doesn't work at Redskin Park.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1220058]He's not a good fit here. They already tried a hard ass coach w/ Marty and that lasted one year. Saban is just too much of a control freak. Too much my way or the highway. That way doesn't work at Redskin Park.[/quote]

It doesn't work much period, in the NFL. Only in NE and that is largely due to Brady being Brady. If they had any other QB , that offense would not be as good.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1220058]He's not a good fit here. They already tried a hard ass coach w/ Marty and that lasted one year. Saban is just too much of a control freak. Too much my way or the highway. That way doesn't work at Redskin Park.[/quote]

Its not going to happen for a bunch of reasons. If Saban wants another shot in the NFL he'll have much better options than here.

Unless Snyder throws an insane amount of money his way and gives him total autonomy which seems highly unlikely.

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Per everybody

We've cut Zach Brown and Stacy McGee...

I said day 1 McGee was a terrible garbage signing.

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per NFL network; Ha Ha probably back to the Redskins

noooooooo

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[quote=Irrefutable;1220065]per NFL network; Ha Ha probably back to the Redskins

noooooooo[/quote]

I'm fine with it.