Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

Haskins has no mobility. The big slow footed pure pocket QB's are going to be a thing of the past in a few years. Sure I'd love to have him but not at #15. In the 2nd or 3rd round sure.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=DYoungJelly;1221721]That's exactly what all reports said about RG3.

There is so much more to the QB position than that.

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Cannot compare RG3, who came from a spread and RPO offense to Haskins who comes from the pro-style offense at Ohio State.

There is no comparison, Haskins is the best QB in this draft.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;1221757]Cannot compare RG3, who came from a spread and RPO offense to Haskins who comes from the pro-style offense at Ohio State.

There is no comparison, Haskins is the best QB in this draft.[/quote]

No he is not.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is there one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

Its going to be Haskins folks. Just wait and see

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[quote=skinsfan69;1221746]Haskins has no mobility. The big slow footed pure pocket QB's are going to be a thing of the past in a few years. Sure I'd love to have him but not at #15. In the 2nd or 3rd round sure.[/quote]

For real, all these guys had WHEELS!
1 Peyton Manning 539
2 Drew Brees 520
3 Tom Brady 517
4 Brett Favre 508
5 Dan Marino 420
6 Philip Rivers 374
7 Ben Roethlisberger 363
8 Eli Manning 360

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1221746]Haskins has no mobility. The big slow footed pure pocket QB's are going to be a thing of the past in a few years. Sure I'd love to have him but not at #15. In the 2nd or 3rd round sure.[/quote]



[quote=los panda;1221770]For real, all these guys had WHEELS!
1 Peyton Manning 539
2 Drew Brees 520
3 Tom Brady 517
4 Brett Favre 508
5 Dan Marino 420
6 Philip Rivers 374
7 Ben Roethlisberger 363
8 Eli Manning 360[/quote]

Isn't Tom Brady the slowest of all of those? He ran like a 5.3 forty at the combine he probably runs a 6 flat now.

I also remember when Colin Kaepernick and RG3 were considered the prototypical new QB.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=los panda;1221770]For real, all these guys had WHEELS!
1 Peyton Manning 539
2 Drew Brees 520
3 Tom Brady 517
4 Brett Favre 508
5 Dan Marino 420
6 Philip Rivers 374
7 Ben Roethlisberger 363
8 Eli Manning 360[/quote]

Love this. From 1983 to 1999 Marino played in 242 games. He career rushing yards over that time is 87. Not per game, not per season....his entire career.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1221746]Haskins has no mobility. The big slow footed pure pocket QB's are going to be a thing of the past in a few years. Sure I'd love to have him but not at #15. In the 2nd or 3rd round sure.[/quote]

I hear what you are saying, and the mobile QB is the latest fad. But find me a 'running QB' that has had any career worth merit after the age of 30.

Just saying, there's lots of young running QBs out there. But there are no old ones.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1221778]I hear what you are saying, and the mobile QB is the latest fad. But find me a 'running QB' that has had any career worth merit after the age of 30.

Just saying, there's lots of young running QBs out there. But there are no old ones.[/quote]

Fran Tarkenton and Steve Young come to mind, but yes, it is extremely rare.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;1221778]I hear what you are saying, and the mobile QB is the latest fad. [B]But find me a 'running QB' that has had any career worth merit after the age of 30.[/B]

Just saying, there's lots of young running QBs out there. But there are no old ones.[/quote]

Steve Young

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221781]Steve Young[/quote]

A day late and a dollar short.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=los panda;1221779]Fran Tarkenton and Steve Young come to mind, but yes, it is extremely rare.[/quote]

Tarkenton's rushing dropped a lot as he got older. On the other hand if every step a QB took was added up I don't think anyone covered more ground than Tarkenton.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221784]Tarkenton's rushing dropped a lot as he got older. On the other hand if every step a QB took was added up I don't think anyone covered more ground than Tarkenton.[/quote]

Good call, he was so much fun to watch scrambling around back there like a sandlot game.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1221776]Love this. From 1983 to 1999 Marino played in 242 games. He career rushing yards over that time is 87. Not per game, not per season....his entire career.[/quote]


Watching the 30 for 30 "From Elway to Marino", which focuses on the 1983 First Round of the Draft, is a tad painful.

Marino almost dropped all the way to the Skins with the last pick in the first round. Can you imagine Joe Gibbs, with Dan Marino??? Holy crap. I know I have read that Gibbs was getting more and more excited as Marino kept falling.

Of course, the Skins snagging Darrell Green instead, was pretty amazing too. But it makes you wonder ... would Green have been there for the Skins in round 2?? Coming out of Texas A & I, I think it's possible. Then you would have had Marino in round 1, and Green in round 2. Wowsa.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

I just realized the Redskins haven't had any sustained decent play at the QB position since Joe Theisman. He retired over 30 years ago. The longest sustained run since was 3 straight years of Cousins starting.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

Welcome back Bob.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1221781]Steve Young[/QUOTE]He was a pure passer too, a Wilson like in his era

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221791]I just realized the Redskins haven't had any sustained decent play at the QB position since Joe Theisman. He retired over 30 years ago. The longest sustained run since was 3 straight years of Cousins starting.[/quote]

Which is why I thought we'd keep Cousins. What was I thinking? LOL!

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221791]I just realized the Redskins haven't had any sustained decent play at the QB position since Joe Theisman. He retired over 30 years ago.[B] The longest sustained run since was 3 straight years of Cousins starting.[/B][/quote]

And even that sustained run was with a QB that did not want to play here and wanted to get paid elite QB money.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221775]Isn't Tom Brady the slowest of all of those? He ran like a 5.3 forty at the combine he probably runs a 6 flat now.

I also remember when Colin Kaepernick and RG3 were considered the prototypical new QB.[/quote]

Brady can move in the pocket as well as anyone.

You don't have to run a 4.5 when you know when to take that extra step up to buy the extra time to throw.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1221641]I know I am probably completely wrong on this, but Daniel Jones sounds to me like another Kirk Cousins with "meh" leadership.



Agreed, without his gaudy combine, Metcalf would be a 2nd rounder.[/quote]

Metcalf is a first round talent. He's big, strong, and fast as hell. He's a victim of a poor scheme that didn't utilize his talent. He will be a star in this league.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=httr198020;1221819]Metcalf is a first round talent. He's big, strong, and fast as hell. He's a victim of a poor scheme that didn't utilize his talent. He will be a star in this league.[/quote]

Could he be another in a long line of work out freaks that do not produce consistently on the field?
Plus with our history of injured players and drafting injured players, Metcalf has had his share. He had a neck injury that caused him to miss the remainder a season and required [B]surgery[/B].

From San Diego Tribune:
"....He likely has a fusion at one level to treat disc herniation and/or ligamentous instability. Many players have continued their career from a single level fusion surgery. ...... [B][U]If he needed a second level fused, that indeed would jeopardize his career[/U][/B]. He should be well healed by now. He also had a foot injury as a freshman, though there is not much information regarding that injury. The bigger issue might not be medical but his poor performance on agility drills compared to his measurable, which were off the charts."

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I don’t like Metcalf at all, gym rat with underwhelming tape


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[QUOTE=httr198020;1221819]Metcalf is a first round talent. He's big, strong, and fast as hell. He's a victim of a poor scheme that didn't utilize his talent. He will be a star in this league.[/QUOTE]What about the scheme didn't utilize his talent?

Ole Miss seemed to be able to use Brown's talent. He could run more than one route though.

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[quote=Defensewins;1221848]Could he be another in a long line of work out freaks that do not produce consistently on the field?
Plus with our history of injured players and drafting injured players, Metcalf has had his share. He had a neck injury that caused him to miss the remainder a season and required [B]surgery[/B].

From San Diego Tribune:
"....He likely has a fusion at one level to treat disc herniation and/or ligamentous instability. Many players have continued their career from a single level fusion surgery. ...... [B][U]If he needed a second level fused, that indeed would jeopardize his career[/U][/B]. He should be well healed by now. He also had a foot injury as a freshman, though there is not much information regarding that injury. The bigger issue might not be medical but his poor performance on agility drills compared to his measurable, which were off the charts."[/quote] Who gives a f*k about agility drills? Can he run a 9 route, a slant, or post route? Those are the routes that will make him elite.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1221866]What about the scheme didn't utilize his talent?

Ole Miss seemed to be able to use Brown's talent. He could run more than one route though.

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You didn't seem run a lot of slants or post routes. If he didn't he would had three times the productions. He's going to be a star for whoever drafts him.

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[quote=httr198020;1221867]Who gives a f*k about agility drills? Can he run a 9 route, a slant, or post route? Those are the routes that will make him elite.[/quote]

He can't run the others well enough to keep DBs honest. They'll just back off him and have time to drive on the ball.

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=httr198020;1221867]Who gives a f*k about agility drills? Can he run a 9 route, a slant, or post route? Those are the routes that will make him elite.[/quote]

Are you blind or stupid? See the part of the quote I posted that is [B][U]IN BOLD AND UNDERLINED.[/U][/B] That is the point I was raising and why he [B]might[/B] drop out of being a top 10 or 20 pick in this draft. He has an injury that if re injured could shorten or end his career. The rest of the quote about agility I do not give a fuck about.

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WOO HOO!!

Daniel Jones to the G-Men!!

YESSSSSS

Re: In all the various mock drafts, is their one player you'd HATE for the Skins to draft at 15?
 

[quote=httr198020;1221819][B]Metcalf is a first round talent[/B]. He's big, strong, and fast as hell. He's a victim of a poor scheme that didn't utilize his talent. He will be a star in this league.[/quote]

I guess 32 teams didn't agree on that.