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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1223954]What are they saying about it on the Eagles forums?[/QUOTE]



Lol

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1223947]It is when your team has been more injured than any other team in the league the last TWO years by a VERY WIDE margin


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It's a new year. I just don't understand how anyone was counting on RF. He's played like 15 or 16 games in two years. They rolled the dice and lost. Time to move on.

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How much of the attendance problem at Fed Ex is due to injuries? Feels like a big chunk. Why go see them if they're all hurt like they've been the last few years?

Amazingly, despite Foster's loss so early, we're still way way healthier than we were at the end of last season. But it just feels like we won't be for long.

This shit gets to you, it's hard for it not to.

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[quote=Schneed10;1223962]How much of the attendance problem at Fed Ex is due to injuries? Feels like a big chunk. Why go see them if they're all hurt like they've been the last few years?

Amazingly, despite Foster's loss so early, we're still way way healthier than we were at the end of last season. But it just feels like we won't be for long.

This shit gets to you, it's hard for it not to.[/quote]

I'm waiting to see how many starters we lose in camp or P/S. We all know its coming. BMitch said the players in today's league are soft but I think that is just an old school guy talking smack.

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Bad Karma, maybe his charges were dropped and the NFL didn't suspend him but someone else knew the truth.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1223958]You must have missed it.

Dude became an Eagles fan the last 2 weeks of last season. While we were still playoff eligible.

My post was asking him what his new friends thought.

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I remember that but didn't recall it was him. Banner post friend

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Maybe I never paid much attention during the 80's and 90's, but I never heard of so many ACL injuries before in the NFL until the past few years. I'm wondering if players kept playing on these knee injuries in the past without realizing exactly how severe the injury actually is?

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[quote=metalskins;1223973]Maybe I never paid much attention during the 80's and 90's, but I never heard of so many ACL injuries before in the NFL until the past few years. I'm wondering if players kept playing on these knee injuries in the past without realizing exactly how severe the injury actually is?[/quote]

Weren't there still players working second jobs during the offseason up into the 80's? I feel like the players now do not give their bodies the rest they need.

They push their bodies to the limit year round and that can't be healthy. It's like redlining your engine every single moment that you're driving. How long before your car suffers a setback?

Take the spring and summer off, drink some beer, eat some bbq, chill the fuck out. Get healthy and come back hungry.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1223958]You must have missed it.

Dude became an Eagles fan the last 2 weeks of last season. While we were still playoff eligible.

My post was asking him what his new friends thought.

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I'm still waiting for him to provide his source on Daniel Jones' close and personal relationship with Eli Manning or just admit that he made it up.

It's cool either way, just come clean, Dawg.

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At some point when you loose your starters year after year don't you lay the blame on the man planning the practices, drills,etc.If you work in a factory and for three years in row you have a 50 percent of your work force gets hurt somebody ass is getting fired.Not with redskins we just stay status quo.we are not cursed just piss poorly run.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1223932]Twitter "docs" are saying it could only be a 6-10 week injury. lets hope so[/quote]

That’s why I never take my injuries to the Twitter doctor.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1223961]It's a new year. I just don't understand how anyone was counting on RF. He's played like 15 or 16 games in two years. They rolled the dice and lost. Time to move on.[/quote]

This is kind of where I'm at with this. He hasn't played a down with the Redskins so it's hard to really call it a loss. Sure they were ready to pencil him in as a starting linebacker, but he wasn't here last year and we do have some depth at that position from the last couple of drafts...time for one of them to step up.

I just hate it for Reuben Foster the man. I hear all this karma talk, and how he may have just had this coming to him...that's BS and narrow minded in my opinion. This was a real opportunity for this dude to get his life right, more important than getting his football career back on track. I just hope he stays close to the team, teammates, facility and doesn't 'wander off' and find more trouble.

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[quote=los panda;1223975]Weren't there still players working second jobs during the offseason up into the 80's? I feel like the players now do not give their bodies the rest they need.

They push their bodies to the limit year round and that can't be healthy. It's like redlining your engine every single moment that you're driving. How long before your car suffers a setback?

Take the spring and summer off, drink some beer, eat some bbq, chill the fuck out. Get healthy and come back hungry.[/quote]

Right! I'm starting to think that players are trying to get so much bigger and faster that it's starting to wear down their bodies. John Riggins never lifted weights. He was a part of the "5 o'clock club" where he drank beer after practice. Not saying that drinking beer and not working out is the healthier thing to do, but like you said, some of those players worked other jobs and didn't spend every waking minute on football. I mean, there were some big, strong dudes back in the day, but nothing like what we have today.

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[quote=metalskins;1223982]Right! I'm starting to think that players are trying to get so much bigger and faster that it's starting to wear down their bodies. John Riggins never lifted weights. He was a part of the "5 o'clock club" where he drank beer after practice. Not saying that drinking beer and not working out is the healthier thing to do, but like you said, some of those players worked other jobs and didn't spend every waking minute on football. I mean, there were some big, strong dudes back in the day, but nothing like what we have today.[/quote]

Riggins had an image he projected. He took care of himself, he lifted, he worked extra. He did have a good time, no doubt, but he was all in as far as the skins were concerned. The link below is pretty clear illumination into Riggins the player and why he was able to lead the skins.

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQN4skHIUlc&t=1033s"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQN4skHIUlc&t=1033s[/URL]

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[URL="https://news.yahoo.com/santa-anita-racetrack-loses-two-horses-three-days-010917565--abc-news-topstories.html"]https://news.yahoo.com/santa-anita-racetrack-loses-two-horses-three-days-010917565--abc-news-topstories.html[/URL]

Reminds me of the injuries sustained at Santa Anita Race Track.
Race track officials initially blamed trainers and doping but it turned out to be issues with the track caused by lots of rain in the off season.

The Redskins needs to bring in people to monitor all aspects of team activities to try and figure out what is going on.

I put the blame on Gruden.
You can't blame luck or karma going into season 5 of this same old bullshit. Gruden has to be accountable for this.

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[quote=jamf;1223994][URL="https://news.yahoo.com/santa-anita-racetrack-loses-two-horses-three-days-010917565--abc-news-topstories.html"]https://news.yahoo.com/santa-anita-racetrack-loses-two-horses-three-days-010917565--abc-news-topstories.html[/URL]

Reminds me of the injuries sustained at Santa Anita Race Track.
Race track officials initially blamed trainers and doping but it turned out to be issues with the track caused by lots of rain in the off season.

[B]The Redskins needs to bring in people to monitor all aspects of team activities to try and figure out what is going on.

I put the blame on Gruden. [/B]
You can't blame luck or karma going into season 5 of this same old bullshit. Gruden has to be accountable for this.[/quote]

Redskins brought in consultants to assess all injuries recently. And how can Gruden prevent injuries? I'm trying to understand why you are pinning the issue on Gruden.

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[quote=GridIron26;1223995]Redskins brought in consultants to assess all injuries recently. And how can Gruden prevent injuries? I'm trying to understand why you are pinning the issue on Gruden.[/quote]


Easy answer: He's the man in charge.

If it's not the training facility, then it's how they train/prepare.

I don't believe in bad luck 5 years in a row.

First and foremost, they need players that can standup to 16 games a season. Let's look at the decision to keep Lauvao last year.

You expect him to miss games. His backup went down early in the preseason, that was bad luck. They don't find a dedicated backup and have to shift the line when Lauvao does breakdown, week 3 or 4. Then they start bringing in guys off the street to play and they end up injured because 2 weeks earlier, they were working out at 24 hour fitness and they aren't used to game speed. If they had replaced Lauvao before the season started we might still have Alex Smith at QB.

I know hindsight is 20/20 but Chico was calling this shit out in preseason last year.

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[quote=jamf;1223994][URL="https://news.yahoo.com/santa-anita-racetrack-loses-two-horses-three-days-010917565--abc-news-topstories.html"]https://news.yahoo.com/santa-anita-racetrack-loses-two-horses-three-days-010917565--abc-news-topstories.html[/URL]

Reminds me of the injuries sustained at Santa Anita Race Track.
Race track officials initially blamed trainers and doping but it turned out to be issues with the track caused by lots of rain in the off season.

The Redskins needs to bring in people to monitor all aspects of team activities to try and figure out what is going on.

I put the blame on Gruden.
You can't blame luck or karma going into season 5 of this same old bullshit. Gruden has to be accountable for this.[/quote] Gruden is a .500 coach at best. The man should have been fired year before last.

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[quote=Kope;1223992]Riggins had an image he projected. He took care of himself, he lifted, he worked extra. He did have a good time, no doubt, but he was all in as far as the skins were concerned. The link below is pretty clear illumination into Riggins the player and why he was able to lead the skins.

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQN4skHIUlc&t=1033s"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQN4skHIUlc&t=1033s[/URL][/quote]

[url]https://www.redskins.com/video/riggo-the-diesel-riggins-never-lifted-weights[/url]

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[QUOTE=jamf;1223996]Easy answer: He's the man in charge.

If it's not the training facility, then it's how they train/prepare.

I don't believe in bad luck 5 years in a row.

First and foremost, they need players that can standup to 16 games a season. Let's look at the decision to keep Lauvao last year.

You expect him to miss games. His backup went down early in the preseason, that was bad luck. They don't find a dedicated backup and have to shift the line when Lauvao does breakdown, week 3 or 4. Then they start bringing in guys off the street to play and they end up injured because 2 weeks earlier, they were working out at 24 hour fitness and they aren't used to game speed. If they had replaced Lauvao before the season started we might still have Alex Smith at QB.

I know hindsight is 20/20 but Chico was calling this shit out in preseason last year.[/QUOTE]Actually Dan and Bruce are in charge.

Jay has plenty of faults but you haven't pointed out any evidence that any decision Gruden has made has contributed to the task of injuries.

But, who needs evidence when you have so much certainty...

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1224000]Actually Dan and Bruce are in charge.

Jay has plenty of faults but you haven't pointed out any evidence that any decision Gruden has made has contributed to the task of injuries.

But, who needs evidence when you have so much certainty...

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It just seems like Jamf just want a scapegoat to blame on, and honestly we cannot blame Jamf for that. We have had terrible luck with injuries last few years, bad enough for it to ruin our season (especially last year) and someone had to take on the blame, might as well as blame it on Gruden.

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[quote=jamf;1223996]Easy answer: He's the man in charge.

If it's not the training facility, then it's how they train/prepare.

I don't believe in bad luck 5 years in a row.

First and foremost, they need players that can standup to 16 games a season. Let's look at the decision to keep Lauvao last year.

You expect him to miss games. His backup went down early in the preseason, that was bad luck. They don't find a dedicated backup and have to shift the line when Lauvao does breakdown, week 3 or 4. Then they start bringing in guys off the street to play and they end up injured because 2 weeks earlier, they were working out at 24 hour fitness and they aren't used to game speed. If they had replaced Lauvao before the season started we might still have Alex Smith at QB.

[B]I know hindsight is 20/20 but Chico was calling this shit out in preseason last year[/B].[/quote]

Have you heard me talk about the TE position endlessly this offseason? The red flags are easy to see, but if the plan by the front office is too simply "cross fingers" then they have to shoulder a lot of the blame. But its known Gruden likes "his guys" and a lot of times those guys aren't getting it done. Im legit worried about Reed/Vernon Davis at TE this year...again. Gruden, front office...blame to go around

One thing about ILB...I know its early, but they really like the rookie Cole Holcomb and they signed Jon Bostic. While its bad news, not all is lost...Foster, Hamilton, Bostic, Holcomb, Harvey-Clemons isn't a terrible core there.

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We signed Jon Bostic given the Foster injury. Don't know much about him, except 5 teams in 7 years or some shit. Prolly just another body.

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Bostic is just a body. Dion Hamilton is going to really have to step in there and be a force. Problem is he's another guy who's injury prone. What are the chances he actually plays 16 games? Slim.

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Bostic is little more than JAG - he is good at run defense but not so much at passing coverage. I'm sure Hamilton will be #1 guy at that spot now but I won't be surprised if Bostic is next up if Hamilton gets injured or doesn't play well within few games.

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[quote=Chico23231;1224003]Have you heard me talk about the TE position endlessly this offseason? The red flags are easy to see, but if the plan by the front office is too simply "cross fingers" then they have to shoulder a lot of the blame. But its known Gruden likes "his guys" and a lot of times those guys aren't getting it done. Im legit worried about Reed/Vernon Davis at TE this year...again. Gruden, front office...blame to go around

One thing about ILB...I know its early, but they really like the rookie Cole Holcomb and they signed Jon Bostic. While its bad news, not all is lost...Foster, Hamilton, Bostic, Holcomb, Harvey-Clemons isn't a terrible core there.[/quote]


I agree 100%.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1224000]Actually Dan and Bruce are in charge.

Jay has plenty of faults but you haven't pointed out any evidence that any decision Gruden has made has contributed to the task of injuries.

But, who needs evidence when you have so much certainty...

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The "Aww shucks, bad luck struck again" approach doesn't work for me 5 years in a row.


It's the coaches responsibility to right this ship and he hasn't done it.

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[quote=GridIron26;1224006]Bostic is little more than JAG - he is good at run defense but not so much at passing coverage. I'm sure Hamilton will be #1 guy at that spot now but I won't be surprised if Bostic is next up if Hamilton gets injured or doesn't play well within few games.[/quote]

well, London Fletcher isn't walking through the door. We drafted young guys to develop at ILB, time is here to put up Harvey-Clemons, Hamilton and Rook

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[QUOTE=jamf;1224008]The "Aww shucks, bad luck struck again" approach doesn't work for me 5 years in a row.


It's the coaches responsibility to right this ship and he hasn't done it.[/QUOTE]What has Gruden done or not done that you disagree with regarding injuries?

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[quote=Meks;1224004]We signed Jon Bostic given the Foster injury. Don't know much about him, except 5 teams in 7 years or some shit. Prolly just another body.[/quote]
bostic actually is a fairly decent player ,i actually would prefer he start alongside hamilton the m.foster more athletic then he is ...

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Anyone but fuckin' Mason Foster. I can't watch that crap again.

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Blaming Jay for Foster's injury is just dumb. The guy stepped wrong and got rolled up. Nothing could have been done to prevent it.

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Bostic seems like a solid sign. I also recently heard that Mason Foster has trimmed down this offseason.

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[quote=Chico23231;1224009]well, London Fletcher isn't walking through the door. We drafted young guys to develop at ILB, time is here to put up Harvey-Clemons, Hamilton and Rook[/quote]

Absolutely! I hope Hamilton will develop well this year, but he has injury history so I'm not going to hold my breath on this one. I can see Redskins alternating between Bostic and Harvey-Clemons later in the season if Hamilton gets injured or doesn't work out as expected. I really like what Harvey-Clemons brings on the field but I am not sure if he will be able to take on a role to play 3 downs full time.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1224010]What has Gruden done or not done that you disagree with regarding injuries?

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I don't think practices are physical enough and I don't think players get enough contact when coming back from injuries.

Team practices and hitting are regulated by the NFL but I don't think Gruden maximizes the time he does have in camp and coddles the the players too much. I didn't care for Marty Schottenheimers Oklahoma drills when he was coach but at some point in camp and during the year you have to get the players used to hitting and being hit.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1224012]Anyone but fuckin' Mason Foster. I can't watch that crap again.[/quote]

Zach Brown and Rueben Foster gone....expect a heavy dose of your boy. You might as well get a Mason Foster jersey and learn to love it.

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Bostic has never forced a fumble in his NFL career but he did have 1 int in his rookie season 6 years ago, so there's that.

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[quote=jamf;1224016]I don't think practices are physical enough and I don't think players get enough contact when coming back from injuries.

Team practices and hitting are regulated by the NFL but I don't think Gruden maximizes the time he does have in camp and coddles the the players too much. I[B] didn't care for Marty Schottenheimers Oklahoma drills when he was coach but at some point in camp and during the year you have to get the players used to hitting and being hit[/B].[/quote]

Don't worry...like in other aspects of society, we are progressing soft: [url]http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26800703/nfl-asks-teams-stop-oklahoma-drill-others[/url]

NFL asks teams to stop Oklahoma drill