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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1233424]OU is a better job than the skins right now[/QUOTE]



Any job is better than the Skins, but if you want a crack at the NFL you take it. And if you aren’t currently coaching and your two offensive stars are just beginning their career on the same team that falls in the plus column.

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One of the rumors was Lincoln Riley.

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What else would help lure a coach is draft picks upcoming....so for God sakes take whatever you can for TW now. Trade him you dumb stubborn bitch Bruce!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1233429]One of the rumors was Lincoln Riley.[/quote]

I can almost guarantee u that is not happening from what I have heard he isn't leaving OU any time soon.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233431]I can almost guarantee u that is not happening from what I have heard he isn't leaving OU any time soon.[/quote]

That's what all the college coaches say until they get a whiff of the NFL challenge, fame and money. The NFL is the pinnacle of coaching. Any true competitor wants to test his mettle at the highest level.

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[quote=punch it in;1233421]It worked for a guy named Joe Gibbs....[/quote]

Gibbs 1 had plenty of guys that were not religious. It just so happened that some of the best ones were. But we had great players that were not into that stuff.. Riggins, Dexter, Gary Clark just to name a few.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1233437]Gibbs 1 had plenty of guys that were not religious. It just so happened that some of the best ones were. But we had great players that were not into that stuff.. Riggins, Dexter, Gary Clark just to name a few.[/QUOTE]



I don’t actually believe that religion plays any part in locker room culture. Not at a level that it makes a difference. May be a few guys who get inspired by it. Im just sayin that being religious doesn’t hinder it.

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I hope Jay trashes the organization at some point. They tried to trash him and it was classless. Look at the timing of that video. It came out right before he was fired. That is just petty classless BS on so many levels.

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We all wanted Manusky fired, why is he still there? Any idea if he’s going along with Jay?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1233440]I hope Jay trashes the organization at some point. They tried to trash him and it was classless. Look at the timing of that video. It came out right before he was fired. That is just petty classless BS on so many levels.[/quote]

Yeah u know someone was told to release that video

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[quote=skinsfan69;1233440]I hope Jay trashes the organization at some point. They tried to trash him and it was classless. Look at the timing of that video. It came out right before he was fired. That is just petty classless BS on so many levels.[/quote]

That video was so who cares, other then Jay's wife who cares. i have been drunk before if you video me i am sure it would not be flattering.

I am kind of just done with this franchise. Who even wants to come here? Good luck hiring anyone to replace Jay that is meaning full.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1233440]I hope Jay trashes the organization at some point. They tried to trash him and it was [B]classless[/B]. Look at the timing of that video. It came out right before he was fired. That is just petty classless BS on so many levels.[/quote]

"Classless". You said the magic word! If there was one word to describe Dan Snyder, the culture he has created, and the actions of the executives he has hired to help him run his organization (into the ground), it would be "classless".

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[QUOTE=irish;1233407]Only is the Skins paid him a mega contract. And even then it doesn't seem worth it for him since he already has $.



From what I have heard, Meyer's team culture is centered on religion and God. That might work in college but I don't see that flying in a pro locker room.[/QUOTE]Gibbs.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1233423]BA holding a press conference today. Holy shit it can talk![/quote]

My bullshit detector is going off and I can't make it stop!

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[quote=punch it in;1233421]It worked for a guy named Joe Gibbs....[/quote]

Gibbs is religious but religion wasn't the core of team culture. Big difference.

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[QUOTE=irish;1233450]Gibbs is religious but religion wasn't the core of team culture. Big difference.[/QUOTE]



I don’t think Urban uses religion as the core of team culture anymore than Gibbs did. Regardless I just don’t think religion plays a part at all.
Anyway listening to the radio and i dont think i have to wish for Gruden to bring Snyders ineptitude to the fore front. All i hear on numerous stations is that nothing will change until he is gone. Fuckin guy.

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Jay Gruden must be so happy to day. To have DS off his nut sack after 6 years is awesome and he still gets paid.

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Haskins liked the "firing of Jay" Post that Redskinstoday posted on IG.

That speaks volumes of their relationship

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Callahan is saying “this is the second time I’m taking over for Gruden”, quit hiring those a-holes!!

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[QUOTE=irish;1233450]Gibbs is religious but religion wasn't the core of team culture. Big difference.[/QUOTE]I think it was, but it wasn't pushed or forced on anyone.

Gibbs made his life priorities known; God, family, then football. He was a guy who lived it, not just talked about it.

He was never confrontational or demeaning. He knew he was coaching grown men. But he absolutely held himself out as a quiet example.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233454]Haskins liked the "firing of Jay" Post that Redskinstoday posted on IG.

That speaks volumes of their relationship[/quote]

And it also speaks volumes to Haskins maturity, or lack thereof.

Jay Gruden may not have been a great head coach here, but he could be one somewhere else one day. Or he could be an offensive coordinator. Which means at some point, Haskins could be seeking employment on a team where Jay is on staff.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1233457]And it also speaks volumes to Haskins maturity, or lack thereof.

Jay Gruden may not have been a great head coach here, but he could be one somewhere else one day. Or he could be an offensive coordinator. Which means at some point, Haskins could be seeking employment on a team where Jay is on staff.[/quote]

He's got to learn and grow, but if you knew the HC never really wanted you in the first place would you be upset he was fired? I wouldn't

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1233441]We all wanted Manusky fired, why is he still there? Any idea if he’s going along with Jay?[/quote]

I will venture a guess it will be up to the new coach on who is retained.

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Per Espn's Ed Werder

"The Redskins top 3 candidates are , Mike Tomlin, Todd Bowles , Eric Bieniemy"

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233458]He's got to learn and grow, but if you knew the HC never really wanted you in the first place would you be upset he was fired? I wouldn't[/quote]

But I am willing to bet you wouldn't be on social media liking the news.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1233461]But I am willing to bet you wouldn't be on social media liking the news.[/quote]

True

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[quote=irish;1233450]Gibbs is religious but religion wasn't the core of team culture. Big difference.[/quote]

Yeah, thats what Portis and Cooley said.

Zorn they said did divide the rocker room with religion. Guys like Antwaan Randle-El who prayed everyday w Zorn got treated differently. Sherman Smith would do daily sermons?
[url]https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/washington-redskins-jim-zorn-clinton-portis-christianity-locker-room-102115[/url]

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Good read

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27743262/jay-gruden-redskins-underlying-issues-go-much-deeper[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233460]Per Espn's Ed Werder

"The Redskins top 3 candidates are , Mike Tomlin, Todd Bowles , Eric Bieniemy"[/quote]

Oh great. So we can use the #1 overall pick on the draft next year to trade for Mike Tomlin. Makes sense.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233460]Per Espn's Ed Werder

"The Redskins top 3 candidates are , Mike Tomlin, Todd Bowles , Eric Bieniemy"[/quote]

love to get tomlin ,but how do we go about that

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Tomlin may be let go as well at this seasons end.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1233461]But I am willing to bet you wouldn't be on social media liking the news.[/quote]

I am petty, I probably would. If that is how I felt at the time. He is human, if that's how you feel, do it.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233483]Tomlin may be let go as well at this seasons end.[/quote]

It would be hard, Steelers never fire coaches

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[URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-skins-made-jay-gruden-come-to-the-office-at-5-am-to-get-fired/ar-AAIoP2m?li=BBnbfcL"]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-skins-made-jay-gruden-come-to-the-office-at-5-am-to-get-fired/ar-AAIoP2m?li=BBnbfcL[/URL]

They had him come in at 5am to get fired. That is pathetic.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1233489][URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-skins-made-jay-gruden-come-to-the-office-at-5-am-to-get-fired/ar-AAIoP2m?li=BBnbfcL"]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-skins-made-jay-gruden-come-to-the-office-at-5-am-to-get-fired/ar-AAIoP2m?li=BBnbfcL[/URL]

They had him come in at 5am to get fired. That is pathetic.[/quote]

If I was Jay I would have said, “fuck you”, I’m getting fired anyways, staying in bed.

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Ok,while I'm glad he's gone it doesn't really change anything,Bruce is still calling the shots and he put his buddy Callihan in as interim coach while isn't gonna change much,now on the other hand MC Connell is gonna run the offense so maybe they will score a few more points,but until Danny stops being -starstruck and actually hires-FOOTBALL PEOPLE then we're gonna have the same results...DANNY-WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

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I think Jay deserves respect for what he was able to accomplish here in spite of Bruce and Dan and all of the dysfunction year after year.

Only coach to ever get extended by Snyder, and also the only coach during Snyder's tenure to have back to back winning seasons.

It was clear that his time had run his course here, but if we are honest with ourselves, Jay's squad was always competitive even despite all of the injuries, it was only this year that we were truly abysmally bad under Jay's coaching..

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1233498]I think Jay deserves respect for what he was able to accomplish here in spite of Bruce and Dan and all of the dysfunction year after year.

Only coach to ever get extended by Snyder, and also the only coach during Snyder's tenure to have back to back winning seasons.

It was clear that his time had run his course here, but if we are honest with ourselves, Jay's squad was always competitive even despite all of the injuries, it was only this year that we were truly abysmally bad under Jay's coaching..[/quote]

he is a good OC, and will get a job soon.

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[quote=Chico23231;1233422]Saben, Dabo Sweeny or maybe Lincoln Riley over Urban imo[/quote]

Pass on Sweeney, SI wrote an article that painted his culture at Clemson as recruiting kids who are willing to accept JC as their lord and savior. Not sure that style would work in a pro locker room.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1233489][URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-skins-made-jay-gruden-come-to-the-office-at-5-am-to-get-fired/ar-AAIoP2m?li=BBnbfcL"]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-skins-made-jay-gruden-come-to-the-office-at-5-am-to-get-fired/ar-AAIoP2m?li=BBnbfcL[/URL]

They had him come in at 5am to get fired. That is pathetic.[/quote]

It was the final step in the Allen playbook. They already tarnished his name in the media, now they're probably hoping he'll lash out so they can point the blame at him some more.

Meanwhile Allen will hold a press conference at 1 pm to announce Dan has trusted him with leading the charge to find a new HC, and he promises not to fail this time.