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[quote=rocnrik;1233584]You guys are on the mark for saying it won’t matter who the next coach is with Bruce/snyder in charge.. Case in point is haskins.. so The story is Jay did not want him but he was overruled .. Haskins does nothing in camp and pre season to convince Jay .. when he gets put in he plays bad .. Jay gets fired and the new coach doesn’t think Haskins is ready to play.. so are you guys siding with Bruce and snyder or do you think the coaches know more... my opinion is I trust the coaches more than the front office.. If Haskins can’t impress a coach to play him over colt and Case damn that means we blew a top pick yet agian .. and after realizing you guys are correct about Bruce and dan would that be a surprise...[/quote]

Couple of things to untie. Juts my opinions.

1. I dont think Jay didnt want Haskins, he just didnt want Haskins at 15 overall.

2. Id say the majority of fans agree that Haskins is not ready-ready. I think the fan divide is what is best for Haskins long term - (1) play the kid and let him learn by fire, he will only learn if he gets live reps, or (2) play the vets and bring the kid along until he is better prepared to read defenses, slide protections, etc.

3. I dont think many people are saying Haskins was a blown pick. Way to early to tell. I think fan divide comes into just how much of a project he is. Me personally, I think Daniel Jones starting for 4 years or so was way more prepared to start than Dwayne Haskins and his 14 games at OSU.

I think he is a project and even though he spurned the Terps and my view of Haskins is coming from a negative place .. his arm talent is there and he seems to hang tough in the pocket perhaps to tough to relaxed imo.

He has the tools, I just dont like him turning into an RG3 light with his liking of an instagram post of Jays firing and some other stuff. Apparently with RG3 in meetings he would repeatedly say "yeah I got it, i got it" then come game time not have a clue.

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Good points !!! It will be interesting to see this play out.

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1233566]Don’t get why everyone is excited about bieniemy as an option. He doesn’t even call plays. The KC offense is 100% Andy Reid.

The only type of coach who could succeed here is one who, through his reputation, would demand respect by Bruce and Dan. Someone with enough cache that they’d give him total control of football operations and stay the hell out of his way.

I don’t see anyone like that you wanting to come here. Of the 3 names mentioned, only Tomlin MIGHT garner that level of respect, but we’d have to trade a lot to acquire him and I’m not sure he could even be successful.


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Idk. Shanahan wasn’t exactly a success. Schottenheimer. Gibbs 2.0. Nobody is gonna flourish under this smug jackass. It isn’t a secret either. We will get another yes man and BA will continue to draft poorly. Honestly I hate to beat a dead horse but nothing changes until Douche Snyder is gone and that is never.....
We have one faint hope. That is whoever we hire turns out to be a great coach and wins sooner than later, at which point Danny sits back n smiles and orders BA to do the same. It would have to happen organically and by a sheer stroke of luck when Snyder hires someone.

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1233584]You guys are on the mark for saying it won’t matter who the next coach is with Bruce/snyder in charge.. Case in point is haskins.. so The story is Jay did not want him but he was overruled .. Haskins does nothing in camp and pre season to convince Jay .. when he gets put in he plays bad .. Jay gets fired and the new coach doesn’t think Haskins is ready to play.. so are you guys siding with Bruce and snyder or do you think the coaches know more... my opinion is I trust the coaches more than the front office.. If Haskins can’t impress a coach to play him over colt and Case damn that means we blew a top pick yet agian .. and after realizing you guys are correct about Bruce and dan would that be a surprise...[/QUOTE]



Haskins was a unique player in college. He played such a limited amount of games, but played so well. It is unusual to see someone so good but with such a small sample size. If they didn’t take him at 15 he would have probably been gone before they got another chance.
So I don’t think we “blew” the pick. I think it is just typical Redskin luck that of all the quarterbacks who have been drafted high and plugged in as starters over the last few years that we got the one who only played 14 games in college......

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1233566][B]Don’t get why everyone is excited about bieniemy as an option. He doesn’t even call plays. The KC offense is 100% Andy Reid.[/B]

The only type of coach who could succeed here is one who, through his reputation, would demand respect by Bruce and Dan. Someone with enough cache that they’d give him total control of football operations and stay the hell out of his way.

I don’t see anyone like that you wanting to come here. Of the 3 names mentioned, only Tomlin MIGHT garner that level of respect, but we’d have to trade a lot to acquire him and I’m not sure he could even be successful.


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EB is well respected around the league, in his own locker room and has paid his dues. I would suspect that Reid would tell him not to come here and wait for a better job.

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Is there any chance that Bill Callahan becomes the HC next year? Say if he were to somehow get the team to finish "respectable" at 7-9 or 8-8?

Does anyone know if Callahan even has interest in being the HC next season?

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[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1233601]Is there any chance that Bill Callahan becomes the HC next year? Say if he were to somehow get the team to finish "respectable" at 7-9 or 8-8?



Does anyone know if Callahan even has interest in being the HC next season?[/QUOTE]There is a fair shot if for no other reason than the Manusky situation from last off season; nobody else wants to come here.

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[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1233601]Is there any chance that Bill Callahan becomes the HC next year? Say if he were to somehow get the team to finish "respectable" at 7-9 or 8-8?



Does anyone know if Callahan even has interest in being the HC next season?[/QUOTE]



Indian Brave is that you? 7-9. 8-8? That is not ever happening.
Like D- Young said. There is a good chance nobody wants to come here and it is his by default. If he finishes 7-9 or 8-8 with this team not only make him the HC, put him in the ring of honor. Shit put him in the Hall of fuckin Fame.

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[quote=punch it in;1233463]Well it is that time again, although this turn seemed a bit overdue. Gruden was terrible at calling plays, and terrible at selecting his staff. He failed miserably at selecting a DC. He was horrible at halftime adjustments. So imo he was the wrong guy, up against Dan and Bruce or not. Who will the next guy be? Who donyou want it to be? I cant stop thinking Urban Meyer. He isn’t currently coaching and Haskins and McLaurin are a draw for him.
Does it even matter though? Will DS and BA say all the right things about team control and than pull their strings from yachts and luxury boxes? Will the new HC have the insight to let DS know BA has to go?[/quote]

I'm betting someone from Ohio State, who was the QB coach there when Haskins was there?

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If Haskins is a project, which by all means it looks like he is, then it was a bad pick. On a bad team you need that #15 pick to be playing. Instead he's playing behind a couple of cast offs who may be out of the league this time next year. Callahan today seemed like he wan't in a rush to play him and said he wasn't playing him against a pathetic football team that's tanking.

This one is on Dan if it doesn't work out. And he will take no responsibility for it if it doesn't.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1233605]I'm betting someone from Ohio State, who was the QB coach there when Haskins was there?[/QUOTE]



Hmmm. Didn’t think about him. Went right to Urban, of course. Has some NFL experience too.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1233607]If Haskins is a project, which by all means it looks like he is, then it was a bad pick. On a bad team you need that #15 pick to be playing. Instead he's playing behind a couple of cast offs who may be out of the league this time next year. Callahan today seemed like he wan't in a rush to play him and said he wasn't playing him against a pathetic football team that's tanking.



This one is on Dan if it doesn't work out. And he will take no responsibility for it if it doesn't.[/QUOTE]



Dan is the type of squirmy little piece of shit that will be a laughing stock for years and years and just constantly fire and blame others, than if fortunes ever turn he will be front and center taking all the credit.
Maybe he will get caught doing something illegal or racist and be forced to sell the team.

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Relax on the Haskins bust talk. No one is performing well outside of Tress Way and two good games from McLaurin. There’s no realistic opportunity for success for our QBs this year.
TEs and RBs have virtually no production outside of CT junk yards. OLine is a mess right now with Scherff playing poorly because of injuries. Penn looks like he is starting to breakdown. Jay had no intention of playing Haskins and didn’t do anything to invest in his development. I’m not grading Haskins on anything that goes on the rest of the year. This isn’t a good situation to be in. OConnell isn’t McVay.

With that said, Dwayne needs snaps! Get the kid on a plan and roll him out week 9 when things settle for a few weeks.

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If there is one thing that interests me is not seeing Gruden’s predictable shit play calling and offense. Maybe see some I formation, maybe a FB. Not go immediately to three WR’s all the time. Be less predictable. Run the ball, be balanced. Play action.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1233624]If there is one thing that interests me is not seeing Gruden’s predictable shit play calling and offense. Maybe see some I formation, maybe a FB. Not go immediately to three WR’s all the time. Be less predictable. Run the ball, be balanced. Play action.[/QUOTE]



I agree. Jay’s play calling was extremely predictable and the poor offensive stats show it. I’m really interested to see if O’Connell has any juice.


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My question is this: with BA and Snyder still running the show and their horrible record - what serious NFL HC (outside the organization) would come here?

Just a guy who wants to make $5 mill a year for five years and knowing he will have a piss poor win/loss record at the end to show for it?


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233562]Redskins interim coach Bill Callahan said he’s not ready to start rookie QB Dwayne Haskins. Said Wants him to continue building his game. Decision for Miami and time being is either Case Keenum or Colt McCoy.[/quote]

More money in my wallet. What a waste of a football season.

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[QUOTE=Warthog;1233645]My question is this: with BA and Snyder still running the show and their horrible record - what serious NFL HC (outside the organization) would come here?

Just a guy who wants to make $5 mill a year for five years and knowing he will have a piss poor win/loss record at the end to show for it?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Gregg (extra G is for genius) and Bowles.

Both have a history with the team which is important to Dan. Retreads.

Both aren't getting HC jobs anywhere else.

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SVP nailed it last night on his one big thing segment, look it up if you haven't seen it yet.

20 years of this garbage, nothing is changing, the Skins are who they are.

I stopped investing much emotionally a few years ago, I used to watch every single snap, now if they fall behind I turn it off or turn to a better game. Or if better plans come up I'll record the game and go back and watch it after (which I rarely do since they're just not worth watching most of the time). Haven't bought any Skins merch in at least 2 years either. At this point I look forward to the Mets season much more than the Skins.

Sucks but it is what it is. Snyder has wrecked this team.

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[quote=MTK;1233669]SVP nailed it last night on his one big thing segment, look it up if you haven't seen it yet.

20 years of this garbage, nothing is changing, the Skins are who they are.

I stopped investing much emotionally a few years ago, I used to watch every single snap, now if they fall behind I turn it off or turn to a better game. Or if better plans come up I'll record the game and go back and watch it after (which I rarely do since they're just not worth watching most of the time). Haven't bought any Skins merch in at least 2 years either. At this point I look forward to the Mets season much more than the Skins.

Sucks but it is what it is. Snyder has wrecked this team.[/quote]

I saw it too and couldn't agree more ..ive been long gone …

truly a travesty

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[quote=MTK;1233669]SVP nailed it last night on his one big thing segment, look it up if you haven't seen it yet.

20 years of this garbage, nothing is changing, the Skins are who they are.

I stopped investing much emotionally a few years ago, I used to watch every single snap, now if they fall behind I turn it off or turn to a better game. Or if better plans come up I'll record the game and go back and watch it after (which I rarely do since they're just not worth watching most of the time). Haven't bought any Skins merch in at least 2 years either. At this point I look forward to the Mets season much more than the Skins.

Sucks but it is what it is. Snyder has wrecked this team.[/quote]

The only way things change are if Allen is fired, not promoted; he should have nothing to do with the Redskins. Snyder sells the team or finally gets someone competent to run the franchise.

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[quote=Chico23231;1233554]Don't come in here making jokes G1.


Sidenote, where's sandtrap at the last couple weeks? something change or?[/quote]

Hi!

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[quote=MTK;1233669]SVP nailed it last night on his one big thing segment, look it up if you haven't seen it yet.

20 years of this garbage, nothing is changing, the Skins are who they are.

I stopped investing much emotionally a few years ago, I used to watch every single snap, now if they fall behind I turn it off or turn to a better game. Or if better plans come up I'll record the game and go back and watch it after (which I rarely do since they're just not worth watching most of the time). Haven't bought any Skins merch in at least 2 years either. At this point I look forward to the Mets season much more than the Skins.

Sucks but it is what it is. Snyder has wrecked this team.[/quote]

Agree with this 100%.

The real problem with the Skins is that everyone sees what they are except for the Skins. The Skins are way worse than Miami because Miami has accepted what they are are is doing what they have to do to get better. The Skins are still in denial that they are garbage and from what Bruce said yesterday, the organization thinks they are close to being good. Until the Skins stop lying to themselves and their fans nothing will change.

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[quote=jamf;1233613][B]Relax on the Haskins bust talk[/B]. No one is performing well outside of Tress Way and two good games from McLaurin. There’s no realistic opportunity for success for our QBs this year.
TEs and RBs have virtually no production outside of CT junk yards. OLine is a mess right now with Scherff playing poorly because of injuries. Penn looks like he is starting to breakdown. Jay had no intention of playing Haskins and didn’t do anything to invest in his development. I’m not grading Haskins on anything that goes on the rest of the year. This isn’t a good situation to be in. OConnell isn’t McVay.

With that said, Dwayne needs snaps! Get the kid on a plan and roll him out week 9 when things settle for a few weeks.[/quote]

He needs a lot of work for sure, yet I see lots of positives that he doesn't show any of the common glaring weaknesses high draft pick busts of the past have had. Even though 3 picks in a little more than a half are a disaster, I did not see him staring down receivers, fleeing the pocket before pressure, and making one read and if that is covered taking off running.

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[quote=MTK;1233669]SVP nailed it last night on his one big thing segment, look it up if you haven't seen it yet.

20 years of this garbage, nothing is changing, the Skins are who they are.

I stopped investing much emotionally a few years ago, I used to watch every single snap, now if they fall behind I turn it off or turn to a better game. Or if better plans come up I'll record the game and go back and watch it after (which I rarely do since they're just not worth watching most of the time). Haven't bought any Skins merch in at least 2 years either. At this point I look forward to the Mets season much more than the Skins.

Sucks but it is what it is. Snyder has wrecked this team.[/quote]

dude if not for this website you created years ago i be done with this team. like you said its been 20 years, nothing is going to change until DS walks away.

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[quote=mredskins;1233737]dude if not for this website you created years ago i be done with this team. like you said its been 20 years, nothing is going to change until DS walks away.[/quote]

This! If not for this site, my interest would be next to none...misery loves company!

I'll put my 2 cents in on who I think the next coach will be...Todd Bowles...and Dan and Bruce will hire O'Connell as the OC before that, because you know...that's what they do.

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[quote=Redskins247;1233769]This! If not for this site, my interest would be next to none...misery loves company!

I'll put my 2 cents in on who I think the next coach will be...Todd Bowles...and Dan and Bruce will hire O'Connell as the OC before that, because you know...that's what they do.[/quote]

I'm the same way, this site has helped me get through this BS

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[quote=Redskins247;1233769]This! If not for this site, my interest would be next to none...misery loves company!

I'll put my 2 cents in on who I think the next coach will be...[B]Todd Bowles...and Dan and Bruce will hire O'Connell as the OC before that, because you know...that's what they do[/B].[/quote]

Very well could happen

I'll toss another name out there, Gregg Williams

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[quote=MTK;1233773]Very well could happen

I'll toss another name out there, Gregg Williams[/quote]

Why Gregg Williams? He should go hangout with his buddy Jeff Fisher, he’s no better than Callahan. How is his Jets D doing? He’s way overrated and likes to put bounties on players, the latest being OBJ.

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[quote=Redskins247;1233769]...and Dan and Bruce will hire O'Connell as the OC before that, because you know...that's what they do.[/quote]


This hurts my soul.

Dan and Bruce will not get this right.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1233777]Why Gregg Williams? He should go hangout with his buddy Jeff Fisher, he’s no better than Callahan. How is his Jets D doing? He’s way overrated and likes to put bounties on players, the latest being OBJ.[/quote]

I don't get this at all. I'm not the biggest fan of hiring retreads but GW while here was pretty damn good. He was a big reason the team made the playoffs twice. He had the best defenses since Snyder took over. The defense was never as bad as it is now under GW. He may be a little rough and tough to deal with but I don't care. Bruce definitely won't want him but maybe Snyder will.

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If I recall correctly, Gregggg was next in line to get the HC job when Gibbs retired but was passed over for Zorn.
Pretty sure his hatred for Danny Boy exceeds what we feel for him.

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[quote=jamf;1233792]If I recall correctly, Gregggg was next in line to get the HC job when Gibbs retired but was passed over for Zorn.
Pretty sure his hatred for Danny Boy exceeds what we feel for him.[/quote]

If I remember correctly he got an extra boost in his salary ($1million?) to hang in there the previous season so that he could return as head coach. Didn’t work out obviously, and there are likely bad feelings from that episode, but who knows, time and money can overcome a lot.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1233777]Why Gregg Williams? He should go hangout with his buddy Jeff Fisher, he’s no better than Callahan. How is his Jets D doing? He’s way overrated and likes to put bounties on players, the latest being OBJ.[/QUOTE]



Why?

Just connect the dots. He has a good relationship with Snyder and if GW wants another HC gig his only shot may be here.



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[quote=MTK;1233855]Why?

Just connect the dots. He has a good relationship with Snyder and if GW wants another HC gig his only shot may be here.



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I totally agree, his only shot to be a HC again would be here and no where else. I know one thing, he'd get more out of this defense than the current regime.

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So many off topic threads, not sure where to post this.

This is just a theory but it's interesting.
[URL="https://twitter.com/AlGaldi/status/1181306650768166914"]Al Galdi Theory[/URL]

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[QUOTE=jamf;1233861]So many off topic threads, not sure where to post this.



This is just a theory but it's interesting.

[URL="https://twitter.com/AlGaldi/status/1181306650768166914"]Al Galdi Theory[/URL][/QUOTE]

I saw that in another thread, but I don't see the logical connectuon. He can't be fired because IF he gets a deal done for the stadium he has incentives built in. But he clearly has not gotten a stadium deal done, and the longer the Skins perform like a poorly managed high school team the harder it is going to be to get a deal done somewhere. You are not selling filet mignon anymore, more like chopped liver.

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Lil Dan Dan.

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Rex Ryan wants the job he has come out and said it lol

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233876]Rex Ryan wants the job he has come out and said it lol[/quote]
Worse case scenario!