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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1241068]I know I seen this earlier, but I can not find the post now. Is anyone else worried about him getting say over the draft. Alex Smith has done a good job running the draft and has found some good young talent. Why do we feel Ron can do better? Will we get a good GM that has no say on the draft?[/quote]

I know you mean Kyle Smith but I kinda agree with your point. Also does this mean Ron is more of the GM in responsibility than whoever gets the title eventually? It remains to be seen how the lineup works. However the pro-coach getting final say over roster argument is that if Ron fails eventually he can't use the "FO wouldn't let me pick my own players" argument Jay Gruden had.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1241071][url]https://twitter.com/jdonaldsonnbcs/status/1211455315541155842?s=21[/url]

Am told Rivera would have total control and final say on Draft. Gives time to evaluate scouting staff. ALL this given unless something in meeting tomorrow goes wrong. #redskins @NBCSWashington #httr* #ronrivera[/quote]

This was in the comments section from this twitter thread:

“ From the @MikeSilver article
"I don't want personnel control," he said. "I just want to be able to pick which 46 are active for game day, and have a collaborative relationship (with a GM)-- and, if there's a conflict, be able at least to go to the owner and state my case."

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I'm not against the HC having control over the draft. He's the one coaching these guys, I'd much rather have it this way than the football people getting frustrated with the picks being made by someone else... (rings a bell?)

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[quote=davy;1241024]Not sure why everyone seems so happy to sign a guy who has never had back-to-back winning seasons.

:saywhat:[/quote]

We might be able to do better, but... no back to back winning season but [I][U]3 back to back to back division titles[/U][/I], a SB appearance, and 11-5, 12-4 and 15-1 records in a 5 years span. We haven't had a 11+ wins season since 1991. I was 1. So yeah, I'll happily have Ron Rivera coach the Redskins, especially if he's demanding total control. We need someone who's going to stand up to Dan if need be.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1241087]We might be able to do better, but... no back to back winning season but [I][U]3 back to back to back division titles[/U][/I], a SB appearance, and 11-5, 12-4 and 15-1 records in a 5 years span. We haven't had a 11+ wins season since 1991. I was 1. So yeah, I'll happily have Ron Rivera coach the Redskins, especially if he's demanding total control. We need someone who's going to stand up to Dan if need be.[/quote]

I agree, plus he has won two coach of the year awards. His record and what he could do at times was always tied to cam Newton’s health which was up and down all the time.

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[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/12/30/report-all-signs-point-to-washington-hiring-ron-rivera/"]Report: All signs point to Washington hiring Ron Rivera[/URL]

Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that the team’s interview with Rivera is more of a “coronation” and that all signs point to Rivera being named the team’s new head coach on Monday. The team can move quickly to hire Rivera as he fills the need to interview a minority candidate under the terms of the Rooney Rule.

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OK, with the likelihood that Rivera is the man (and I was hoping he'd get a look after the Panthers fired him), 2 questions come to mind:

1) Will he hire a DC (please NOT Manusky) and let them run the D or just the coaches and call plays himself? I wouldn't have an issue if he wanted to call the plays, but I feel a HC should be that and trust his coordinators to call the right plays.
2) Does he switch to a purer 4-3, and if so what about the guys we have?

I can't help thinking that a 4-3 would suit Sweat, Allen, Payne and Ionnidis (assuming Kerrigan is gone), and that maybe it means we don't need Young and therefore trade down. Can't help thinking we need help at too many other positions (CB, FS, OL) to draft an out and out pass rusher again. Of course Young would make the front 4 instantly more dangerous, but is he a luxury at this point?

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Per Adam S. "Ron Rivera will be hired as the next HC of Washington today"

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1241105]OK, with the likelihood that Rivera is the man (and I was hoping he'd get a look after the Panthers fired him), 2 questions come to mind:

1) Will he hire a DC (please NOT Manusky) and let them run the D or just the coaches and call plays himself? I wouldn't have an issue if he wanted to call the plays, but I feel a HC should be that and trust his coordinators to call the right plays.
2) Does he switch to a purer 4-3, and if so what about the guys we have?

I can't help thinking that a 4-3 would suit Sweat, Allen, Payne and Ionnidis (assuming Kerrigan is gone), and that maybe it means we don't need Young and therefore trade down. Can't help thinking we need help at too many other positions (CB, FS, OL) to draft an out and out pass rusher again. Of course Young would make the front 4 instantly more dangerous, but is he a luxury at this point?[/quote]

My take: yes he hires a DC, zero chance he retains Manusky. He will switch to a 4-3.

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[quote=MTK;1241112]My take: yes he hires a DC, zero chance he retains Manusky. He will switch to a 4-3.[/quote]

Steve Wilkes. He knows if needs to win Manusky is not his DC.

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Saw on twitter, no quote, that he is likely to bring Wilkes with him unless he gets a better offer..

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Can't wait for his presser and for Dan to talk! LFG!!

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While I like the idea of Ron becoming a head coach for Redskins, I'm not happy about the fact that Snyder and whoever else is involved in this are making all the moves before hiring a GM.. I just hope this means we are promoting someone (Smith) to GM, this would means that the person is involved in this whole process.

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Maybe Joe Gibbs is part of that outside group Danny has been working with. Joe lives in Charlotte, same as Ron. Why not pay him a visit and discuss the possibility of coaching the Redskins.

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Is anyone not concerned that a GM is not being hired and running the search for a HC?

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[quote=SkinzWin;1241127]Is anyone not concerned that a GM is not being hired and running the search for a HC?[/quote]

I am a little but from what has been said, Ron has FULL control

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This is an excellent hire. He is definitely one of the best coaches in football and the Panthers were stupid to fire him.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1241127]Is anyone not concerned that a GM is not being hired and running the search for a HC?[/quote]

I think whoever the GM is going to be is already on board with Rivera

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[quote=httr198020;1241130]This is an excellent hire. He is definitely one of the best coaches in football and the Panthers were stupid to fire him.[/quote]

Carolina already regrets that, they were at least competitive and since he was fired they have been horrible

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Steve Wilks will be the DC per The Athletic

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Per Keim:

Ryan Kerrigan says he wants to be around. Has made it clear to his agent. My understanding is that there had been initial talks on an extension earlier this year. Has one year left on deal.

NO!!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1241148]Per Keim:

Ryan Kerrigan says he wants to be around. Has made it clear to his agent. My understanding is that there had been initial talks on an extension earlier this year. Has one year left on deal.

NO!![/quote]

Of course he does, he knows his value has diminished

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1241148]Per Keim:

Ryan Kerrigan says he wants to be around. Has made it clear to his agent. My understanding is that there had been initial talks on an extension earlier this year. Has one year left on deal.

NO!![/quote]

I like RK as a person and what he brings to the team in terms of showing younger guys how to take care of themself.

With that said assuming we have a 4-3 move incoming I'm not sure I see a place for him on the roster. I don't want him to bulk up to become a 4-3 defensive end, and I'm not sure I like him as an outside linebacker roaming in space most of the time.

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Smart kid!! Per Keim:

Dwayne Haskins says change can be good. But says he want Kevin O’Connell to stay. Says they were on the same page. Anticipated calls because felt like he knew what KOC was thinking. Also called Chase Young a “game wrecker”

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RR will be a very good hire and won’t be bullied by Dan! With Bruce being fired and RR hired to run the Show add in the #2 pick and cap space by unloading dead weight players also core group of players WR’s especially things could improve rather quick..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1241150]Of course he does, he knows his value has diminished[/quote]

Yeah, love his character and leadership. In principle, he's the kind of player you want on your roster - but hes on the back part of his career, and smart teams in a rebuilding mode don't give big money to guys his age.

We should trade Kerrigan and Trent Williams to contenders for whatever draft compensation we can get.

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1241158]RR will be a very good hire and won’t be bullied by Dan! With Bruce being fired and RR hired to run the Show add in the #2 pick and cap space by unloading dead weight players also core group of players WR’s especially things could improve rather quick..[/QUOTE]With the NFC East the way it is, we have a good chance to spring out in front. That said the NFC East opponents next season are brutal.

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I need this done today. Please make this happen today.

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I hope so.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/2-coaching-moves-ron-rivera-might-make-immediately-and-what-it-means-redskins-front-office[/url]

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No one has mentioned this, but what is going to happen to Bill Callahan?!

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[quote=SkinzWin;1241168]No one has mentioned this, but what is going to happen to Bill Callahan?![/quote]

He’ll find a job somewhere , maybe Ron decides to keep as OL coach, that is if Callahan would be willing to go back to his old job.

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1241168]No one has mentioned this, but what is going to happen to Bill Callahan?![/QUOTE]He is out. Maybe head coach Dallas?

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[quote=mooby;1241152]I like RK as a person and what he brings to the team in terms of showing younger guys how to take care of themself.

With that said assuming we have a 4-3 move incoming I'm not sure I see a place for him on the roster. I don't want him to bulk up to become a 4-3 defensive end, and I'm not sure I like him as an outside linebacker roaming in space most of the time.[/quote]

Kerrigan was a great 4-3 DE in college. He might be a very good player at that position.

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For anyone interested in getting to know Riverboat Ron a little better, season 4 (Panthers) of All or Nothing is free on Amazon Prime.

I just started episode 3 and I like what I've seen so far.

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[quote=los panda;1241179]For anyone interested in getting to know Riverboat Ron a little better, season 4 (Panthers) of All or Nothing is free on Amazon Prime.

I just started episode 3 and I like what I've seen so far.[/quote]

Thanks for sharing, I definitely will check it out!

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Dan Snyder deserves some credit imo

- putting together a few people/team of outsiders early on this season to help him prepare to find a HC, with Bruce Allen getting zero input or participation. He was proactive and didnt wait until week 17 to being the process.

- Keeping it almost completely secret and not a media talking point. Only last week did we start to hear that Dan had gathered a team of outsiders to help him transition. This could have been a cloud of speculation and media hyperbole but it was kept under wraps with no leaks.

- Getting the no. 1 choice Ron Rivera when I assume he could have landed multiple jobs.

Obviously who knows how Rivera will pan out here but I like Snyder being proactive and keeping it silent.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1241161]With the NFC East the way it is, we have a good chance to spring out in front.
[/quote]

Let's temper our expectations a little bit...we finished 3-13....like....yesterday.
I like the hire and the young talent...but this is all shit we have seen before. I wont give this team the benefit of the doubt until well into the next season. Ita just more of the same, until it isnt anymore.

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[quote=SunnySide;1241181]Dan Snyder deserves some credit imo

- putting together a few people/team of outsiders early on this season to help him prepare to find a HC, with Bruce Allen getting zero input or participation. He was proactive and didnt wait until week 17 to being the process.

- Keeping it almost completely secret and not a media talking point. Only last week did we start to hear that Dan had gathered a team of outsiders to help him transition. This could have been a cloud of speculation and media hyperbole but it was kept under wraps with no leaks.

- Getting the no. 1 choice Ron Rivera when I assume he could have landed multiple jobs.

Obviously who knows how Rivera will pan out here but I like Snyder being proactive and keeping it silent.[/quote]
Pat on the back, Danny Boy.

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[QUOTE=OnceWeWereKings;1241182]Let's temper our expectations a little bit...we finished 3-13....like....yesterday.

I like the hire and the young talent...but this is all shit we have seen before. I wont give this team the benefit of the doubt until well into the next season. Ita just more of the same, until it isnt anymore.[/QUOTE]My main point was that the whole NFC East is in the garbage, so if the team gets right there is good young talent on both sides of the ball to build from and a division that can be taken.

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If this team can get a legit Defense for once, I don't see why they cant compete for the East next yr.